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  3. The UK social media ban for under-16s does nothing to sort out the harms caused by platforms.

The UK social media ban for under-16s does nothing to sort out the harms caused by platforms.

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  • openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.orgO This user is from outside of this forum
    openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.orgO This user is from outside of this forum
    openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.org
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    #1

    The UK social media ban for under-16s does nothing to sort out the harms caused by platforms.

    Harmful content is a product of a business model that uses data to drive engagement and target users with ads.

    Digital ID checks feed more data into this system, while leaving the engine for harms unchecked.

    Read our response ⬇️

    https://www.openrightsgroup.org/press-releases/starmers-social-media-ban-fails-to-address-root-causes-of-online-harms/

    #socialmediaban #socialmedia #starmer #stopkillinginternet #ukpolitics #ukpol #onlinesafety #ageverification #digitalid #privacy #censorship

    openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.orgO scg@mas.toS sxa@fosstodon.orgS C tomwor@mastodon.socialT 5 Replies Last reply
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    • openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.orgO openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.org

      A social media ban addresses the symptoms, not the cause of online harms.

      Platforms rely on extensive data collection to target ads and keep users online for longer.

      Algorithms prioritise content most likely to capture attention and drive interaction, spreading harmful, polarising and addictive content.

      #socialmediaban #socialmedia #starmer #stopkillinginternet #ukpolitics #ukpol #onlinesafety #ageverification #digitalid #privacy #censorship

      openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.orgO This user is from outside of this forum
      openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.orgO This user is from outside of this forum
      openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.org
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #2

      An under-16s ban means making every adult prove they're over 16 for access.

      The data shared for age verification can also be used by platforms and the wider data broker ecosystem to send you ads and customised content.

      It's a policy that fuels the very business model that generates online harms.

      #socialmediaban #socialmedia #starmer #stopkillinginternet #ukpolitics #ukpol #onlinesafety #ageverification #digitalid #privacy #censorship

      openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.orgO cobalt123@beige.partyC 2 Replies Last reply
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      • openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.orgO openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.org

        The UK social media ban for under-16s does nothing to sort out the harms caused by platforms.

        Harmful content is a product of a business model that uses data to drive engagement and target users with ads.

        Digital ID checks feed more data into this system, while leaving the engine for harms unchecked.

        Read our response ⬇️

        https://www.openrightsgroup.org/press-releases/starmers-social-media-ban-fails-to-address-root-causes-of-online-harms/

        #socialmediaban #socialmedia #starmer #stopkillinginternet #ukpolitics #ukpol #onlinesafety #ageverification #digitalid #privacy #censorship

        openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.orgO This user is from outside of this forum
        openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.orgO This user is from outside of this forum
        openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.org
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #3

        A social media ban addresses the symptoms, not the cause of online harms.

        Platforms rely on extensive data collection to target ads and keep users online for longer.

        Algorithms prioritise content most likely to capture attention and drive interaction, spreading harmful, polarising and addictive content.

        #socialmediaban #socialmedia #starmer #stopkillinginternet #ukpolitics #ukpol #onlinesafety #ageverification #digitalid #privacy #censorship

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        • openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.orgO openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.org

          An under-16s ban means making every adult prove they're over 16 for access.

          The data shared for age verification can also be used by platforms and the wider data broker ecosystem to send you ads and customised content.

          It's a policy that fuels the very business model that generates online harms.

          #socialmediaban #socialmedia #starmer #stopkillinginternet #ukpolitics #ukpol #onlinesafety #ageverification #digitalid #privacy #censorship

          openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.orgO This user is from outside of this forum
          openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.orgO This user is from outside of this forum
          openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.org
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #4

          Age verification is being extended to block vast areas of the Internet.

          That means millions of people handing over ID documents and biometric data to unregulated providers.

          It becomes a treasure trove for hackers, as has already been seen since introducing age checks with the Discord data leak.

          #socialmediaban #socialmedia #starmer #stopkillinginternet #ukpolitics #ukpol #onlinesafety #ageverification #digitalid #privacy #censorship #discord

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          • openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.orgO openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.org

            Age verification is being extended to block vast areas of the Internet.

            That means millions of people handing over ID documents and biometric data to unregulated providers.

            It becomes a treasure trove for hackers, as has already been seen since introducing age checks with the Discord data leak.

            #socialmediaban #socialmedia #starmer #stopkillinginternet #ukpolitics #ukpol #onlinesafety #ageverification #digitalid #privacy #censorship #discord

            openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.orgO This user is from outside of this forum
            openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.orgO This user is from outside of this forum
            openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.org
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            #5

            Banning under-16s online restricts access to information while creating huge privacy risks.

            Instead the UK government should target the root cause of online harms.

            That means tackling the business model of social media platforms – from targeted ads and algorithms to user lock-in.

            Sign the petition ⬇️

            https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/break-big-tech

            #socialmediaban #socialmedia #starmer #stopkillinginternet #ukpolitics #ukpol #onlinesafety #ageverification #digitalid #privacy #censorship

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            • openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.orgO openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.org

              The UK social media ban for under-16s does nothing to sort out the harms caused by platforms.

              Harmful content is a product of a business model that uses data to drive engagement and target users with ads.

              Digital ID checks feed more data into this system, while leaving the engine for harms unchecked.

              Read our response ⬇️

              https://www.openrightsgroup.org/press-releases/starmers-social-media-ban-fails-to-address-root-causes-of-online-harms/

              #socialmediaban #socialmedia #starmer #stopkillinginternet #ukpolitics #ukpol #onlinesafety #ageverification #digitalid #privacy #censorship

              scg@mas.toS This user is from outside of this forum
              scg@mas.toS This user is from outside of this forum
              scg@mas.to
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              #6

              @openrightsgroup keeps timing me out when I try to sign 🤷

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              • openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.orgO openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.org

                An under-16s ban means making every adult prove they're over 16 for access.

                The data shared for age verification can also be used by platforms and the wider data broker ecosystem to send you ads and customised content.

                It's a policy that fuels the very business model that generates online harms.

                #socialmediaban #socialmedia #starmer #stopkillinginternet #ukpolitics #ukpol #onlinesafety #ageverification #digitalid #privacy #censorship

                cobalt123@beige.partyC This user is from outside of this forum
                cobalt123@beige.partyC This user is from outside of this forum
                cobalt123@beige.party
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                #7

                @openrightsgroup Yet all over the world it’s ok for under-16s to get married, even forced to marry. Because that is safe for children, right? Just think: less information available to children who may need it desperately. Children who are harmed by adults who view them as slaves or property. What evil cruelty.

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                • openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.orgO openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.org

                  Banning under-16s online restricts access to information while creating huge privacy risks.

                  Instead the UK government should target the root cause of online harms.

                  That means tackling the business model of social media platforms – from targeted ads and algorithms to user lock-in.

                  Sign the petition ⬇️

                  https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/break-big-tech

                  #socialmediaban #socialmedia #starmer #stopkillinginternet #ukpolitics #ukpol #onlinesafety #ageverification #digitalid #privacy #censorship

                  uriel@bbs.keinpfusch.netU This user is from outside of this forum
                  uriel@bbs.keinpfusch.netU This user is from outside of this forum
                  uriel@bbs.keinpfusch.net
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #8

                  @openrightsgroup

                  > That means tackling the business model of social media platforms – from targeted ads and algorithms to user lock-in.

                  yep. And this is the good part. Stopping wealth extraction.

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                  • openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.orgO openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.org

                    The UK social media ban for under-16s does nothing to sort out the harms caused by platforms.

                    Harmful content is a product of a business model that uses data to drive engagement and target users with ads.

                    Digital ID checks feed more data into this system, while leaving the engine for harms unchecked.

                    Read our response ⬇️

                    https://www.openrightsgroup.org/press-releases/starmers-social-media-ban-fails-to-address-root-causes-of-online-harms/

                    #socialmediaban #socialmedia #starmer #stopkillinginternet #ukpolitics #ukpol #onlinesafety #ageverification #digitalid #privacy #censorship

                    sxa@fosstodon.orgS This user is from outside of this forum
                    sxa@fosstodon.orgS This user is from outside of this forum
                    sxa@fosstodon.org
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #9

                    @openrightsgroup Genuine question - what is your proposal for "Compelling social media companies to let us take our followers and data with us if we want to leave their platforms." given that users don't (and arguably shouldn't) have a global identify that can work across platforms. The data I get (and most let you export) but automatically moving followers feels a lot harder.

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                    • sxa@fosstodon.orgS sxa@fosstodon.org

                      @openrightsgroup Genuine question - what is your proposal for "Compelling social media companies to let us take our followers and data with us if we want to leave their platforms." given that users don't (and arguably shouldn't) have a global identify that can work across platforms. The data I get (and most let you export) but automatically moving followers feels a lot harder.

                      openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.orgO This user is from outside of this forum
                      openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.orgO This user is from outside of this forum
                      openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.org
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                      #10

                      @sxa This is part of a push for interoperability between platforms, giving users greater choice with the ability to switch where their account is hosted and drive competition for better moderation systems, recommendation feeds, or advertising models.

                      Our report details our proposals to improve on the online environment through user empowerment ⬇️

                      https://www.openrightsgroup.org/publications/making-platforms-accountable-empowering-users-and-creating-safety/

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                      • openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.orgO openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.org

                        The UK social media ban for under-16s does nothing to sort out the harms caused by platforms.

                        Harmful content is a product of a business model that uses data to drive engagement and target users with ads.

                        Digital ID checks feed more data into this system, while leaving the engine for harms unchecked.

                        Read our response ⬇️

                        https://www.openrightsgroup.org/press-releases/starmers-social-media-ban-fails-to-address-root-causes-of-online-harms/

                        #socialmediaban #socialmedia #starmer #stopkillinginternet #ukpolitics #ukpol #onlinesafety #ageverification #digitalid #privacy #censorship

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                        carenanaas@mastodon.uno
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                        #11

                        @openrightsgroup
                        If the content were to be regulated as per normal media... TV, newsppers, radio, would this help...

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                        • openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.orgO openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.org

                          The UK social media ban for under-16s does nothing to sort out the harms caused by platforms.

                          Harmful content is a product of a business model that uses data to drive engagement and target users with ads.

                          Digital ID checks feed more data into this system, while leaving the engine for harms unchecked.

                          Read our response ⬇️

                          https://www.openrightsgroup.org/press-releases/starmers-social-media-ban-fails-to-address-root-causes-of-online-harms/

                          #socialmediaban #socialmedia #starmer #stopkillinginternet #ukpolitics #ukpol #onlinesafety #ageverification #digitalid #privacy #censorship

                          tomwor@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
                          tomwor@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
                          tomwor@mastodon.social
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                          #12

                          RE: https://social.openrightsgroup.org/@openrightsgroup/116753407017940135

                          @openrightsgroup This could be so simple: 1. Add age attestation (no ID needed) to the operating system 2. require mandatory API's to query age bracket (made transparent for user) for every operating system over a certain threshhold of market share 3. make every app vendor and website implement checks against this API and show only age-appropriate content. / This way parents would have agency. Transparent and anonymous.

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