Although trained in physics, I worked in the computing industry with pride and purpose for over 40 years.
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But hey, the industry has spoken. Who am I to question it?
@robpike there has been a-lot of optimistic AI in the experiment / spend cycle; The total dollar cost to Industry is not so rosy.
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Although trained in physics, I worked in the computing industry with pride and purpose for over 40 years. And now I can do nothing but sit back and watch it destroy itself for no valid reason beyond hubris (if I'm being charitable).
Ineffable sadness watching something I once loved deliberately lose its soul.
@robpike Its more than just technology. Its also media (television) that is going to collapse soon.
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But hey, the industry has spoken. Who am I to question it?
@robpike It's far from the only problem with capitalism, but certainly one of 'em is that any longterm for-profit endeavour will, at some point or another, self-cannibalize for some wishful thinking of short-term profits.
But I'm personally heartened by how the actual people involved skew far *more* against the malpractice the industry has abruptly standardized on. The big corps have *always* had fundamental pathologies stemming from the nature of such organizations in our socio-economic system, and that becoming painfully clear for more people may have positive affects that reverberate for a long time, even as the costs of the LLM mania inevitably do too. -
I spent my time trying to make it better. Not just write code, but find better or at least different ways to do so. Simpler, cleaner, more general, more comprehensible.
What's happening today is a complete repudiation of everything I was trying to achieve.
@robpike I write a lot of Go, with my own hands and brain. I refuse to use "AI". I still appreciate the work you and the team did, and the care you put into making Go simple and clean.
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But hey, the industry has spoken. Who am I to question it?
@robpike Your work has inspired so many of us, and I trust it will continue to do so long into the dark night that's fallen upon the computing world. Godspeed.
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I spent my time trying to make it better. Not just write code, but find better or at least different ways to do so. Simpler, cleaner, more general, more comprehensible.
What's happening today is a complete repudiation of everything I was trying to achieve.
@robpike thank you for your work!
It is truly inspiring and it makes happy to use the Go language. Even if many people are doing handsoff coding. Not sure if it's sustainable in the long run, I would question it. -
Although trained in physics, I worked in the computing industry with pride and purpose for over 40 years. And now I can do nothing but sit back and watch it destroy itself for no valid reason beyond hubris (if I'm being charitable).
Ineffable sadness watching something I once loved deliberately lose its soul.
@robpike
Although I haven't done as much as you, I understand. I'm not a big name in this field, but I'm 63 and I experienced all this development with great enthusiasm. I know you, and I've seen this industry grow for decades. Today, I feel like it's all going to hell. -
Although trained in physics, I worked in the computing industry with pride and purpose for over 40 years. And now I can do nothing but sit back and watch it destroy itself for no valid reason beyond hubris (if I'm being charitable).
Ineffable sadness watching something I once loved deliberately lose its soul.
@robpike after many years deliberating what mattered to me and how to attempt to live as ethically as possible under capitalism I found out that the best way was to support local artists.
And now I am afraid they're trying to scam me with the AIgen bullshit.Problem is I've been only 5 years on this position. And 2 of those have been under unnecessary stress.
The big corpos haven really never been as burnable as today. -
But hey, the industry has spoken. Who am I to question it?
@robpike you, and others like you, are exactly the ones to question it, gramps. You, and the academics and the ethicists and professors and unions and legislators.
And we should listen.
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@robpike A profound grief I feel.
I retired this year, creating considerable financial stress, but I just don't want to be associated with this trade these days.
And yes, it's been coming for some time, and the LLM craze isn't really the root cause. For me, at least, it's the tipping point.
Anyway. Just a note to say that I feel your pain. About the only bright side I can offer: we lived through the golden age of computing, created amazing things, found many friends, and felt great joy.
@GeePawHill @robpike I share similar feelings. I don't feel like retiring, but I don't want anything to do with any of this. Maybe I did something that mattered to someone at one time, but who knows now?
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Although trained in physics, I worked in the computing industry with pride and purpose for over 40 years. And now I can do nothing but sit back and watch it destroy itself for no valid reason beyond hubris (if I'm being charitable).
Ineffable sadness watching something I once loved deliberately lose its soul.
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Although trained in physics, I worked in the computing industry with pride and purpose for over 40 years. And now I can do nothing but sit back and watch it destroy itself for no valid reason beyond hubris (if I'm being charitable).
Ineffable sadness watching something I once loved deliberately lose its soul.
@robpike Didn’t expect to read from the very Rob Pike here on Mastodon on my way to bed. Let’s say I am going to sleep much better now. Always nice to see some of the OGs having their head screwed right on. Bless you.
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Although trained in physics, I worked in the computing industry with pride and purpose for over 40 years. And now I can do nothing but sit back and watch it destroy itself for no valid reason beyond hubris (if I'm being charitable).
Ineffable sadness watching something I once loved deliberately lose its soul.
* buildings collapse, websites fall, forums die, qr codes deployed, bots run rampant
*Meanwhile, below, in TOR, yggdrasil and i2p.
"Can you keep it down up there?!"
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But hey, the industry has spoken. Who am I to question it?
@robpike I cannot express how happy I am that you are on the same side here as I am .. and how sorry I am for you to suffer through this as well
I'm in this industry not nearly as long, but also just always hoped it would lead to the betterment of humanity and not ... this
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I spent my time trying to make it better. Not just write code, but find better or at least different ways to do so. Simpler, cleaner, more general, more comprehensible.
What's happening today is a complete repudiation of everything I was trying to achieve.
@robpike I just got into the industry after it being my hobby since I could teach myself, I relate to this so hard.
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@robpike This is the feeling I had in the 90s dropping out of journalism school because everything had been so debased by 24 hour news channels managing to devote 20 of those hours to OJ Simpson's trial for months on end, and nearly every other news source including NPR joining the frenzy.
So then I went to become a full time computer geek and, well, you know.
@linuxandyarn oh hi, same story here
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Although trained in physics, I worked in the computing industry with pride and purpose for over 40 years. And now I can do nothing but sit back and watch it destroy itself for no valid reason beyond hubris (if I'm being charitable).
Ineffable sadness watching something I once loved deliberately lose its soul.
@robpike yup
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@robpike
Just like democracy: if the billionaires don't want it, who are we to complain?If the world survived Perl, VBA, CORBA, SGML/XML, and Code Generation from UML, it can survive this.
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Although trained in physics, I worked in the computing industry with pride and purpose for over 40 years. And now I can do nothing but sit back and watch it destroy itself for no valid reason beyond hubris (if I'm being charitable).
Ineffable sadness watching something I once loved deliberately lose its soul.
brother.
But first, it burned me out. -
Although trained in physics, I worked in the computing industry with pride and purpose for over 40 years. And now I can do nothing but sit back and watch it destroy itself for no valid reason beyond hubris (if I'm being charitable).
Ineffable sadness watching something I once loved deliberately lose its soul.
Given your experience, how does this compare for you to the dot com boom? To me it seems like a similar combination of investors not wanting to miss out and not really understanding the thing and marketing departments happy to agree to all requests resulting in a big bubble about to pop. I'm anticipating in five or ten years there will still be LLM tools helping in what manner they actually can, the same way we still use websites after the dotcom crash, but all of the shenanigans will have collapsed under the weight of their impossibility.
