I've been saying "if AI is making you so productive then where is all this great new software" and I guess the answer is the software is out there it's just not great, it's terrible, and nobody is using it

[alice@mk.nyaa.place]

@eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place can confirm, same as e.g. flathub was getting fucking flooded with slop until they enacted the recent no-slop policy

and did that flood result in anything good? unsurprisingly, no, it didn't, it's all shit, nobody is using those apps and nobody is gonna maintain them once the bubble pops

edit: oh, and I'm only talking about accepted submissions here! even before the policy there was an even biigger flood of slop submissions that got rejected because they couldn't follow the most basic rules (unsurprisingly too)

[brooke@bikeshed.vibber.net]

@alice @eniko *me looking at the state of things* "this is the perfect time for me to pivot to freelance app development" :headdesk:

[alice@mk.nyaa.place]

@brooke@bikeshed.vibber.net @eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place it's also fun when I've been working on a thing for close to 3 years now, and it's relatively close to a release, but also it's now and do i even want to release it at this period of time vs waiting until the literal shitstorm clears up

[brooke@bikeshed.vibber.net]

@alice @eniko this is fine

[srazkvt@tech.lgbt]

@alice @eniko that reminds me of that guy who said "why flathub cares what devs use to make their apps" but i only realised now that it's pretty normal actually to limit wastes of ressources on apps nobody wants to use

[ozzelot@mstdn.social]

@toerror
I found a bank that lets me exist without an app... for now

(Sure, SMS 2FA is, erm, not amazing, but is trusting a years-out-of-date android version that much more secure?)
@mmby @aeva @eniko

[jargoggles@kolektiva.social]

@dome @eniko
If you're not a programmer, how on earth do you know if it's more secure?

"I'm not a civil engineer, but I used AI to make this bridge sturdier."

[scavello@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@eniko Even if it is great, how are people supposed to find among all the trash? Its made an already existing problem worse

[eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place]

this post has made all the AI users Big Mad

[matildalove@wetdry.world]

@eniko keep up the good work!

[lambdacalculus@masto.hackers.town]

@eniko Well done!

[zwol@masto.hackers.town]

@eniko I seriously wonder how many of those are in aid of some kind of scam.

[401matthall@mastodon.xyz]

@eniko

"I was able to rapidly go from prototype to finished product using Agentic AI!"

...

"Steve, nobody is using your finished product."

...

"Well, it was a horrible idea that nobody wanted to build. So... Yeah.'

...

[nini@oldbytes.space]

@scavello @eniko "Flooding the zone with shit" applies to everything.

[scavello@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@nini @eniko I mean, pretty much every dev I see on GDP complains about having to market their game so people can find it

[ozzelot@mstdn.social]

@eniko
A victory, then.

[jaye@theforkiverse.com]

@eniko @alice the flood of junk apps is so frustrating on both maintainers trying to organize a collection and the people trying to find genuinely useful apps.

[petealexharris@mastodon.scot]

@eniko
This looks exactly like how there are a vastly increased number of ebooks available on Amazon.

[0x0961h@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@dome @jargoggles @eniko Your problem is that it's "good enough" in your non-programmer eyes. For now.

And then you'll find yourself wondering why it 100%s your GPU in idle.

And then starts the "burning through tokens trying to add more features or fix old stuff that suddenly was overwritten during ai hiccup" dance.

[0x0961h@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@dome @jargoggles @eniko (Non-ethical) problem with vibe code is that while you might find ai useful for _producing_ code, it's not useful for _supporting_ it.

Just like ai "artist" can't fix slop because they have no idea how light works, how clothes works, and fixing ai "art" with ai just makes a new image leaving nothing from the old iteration.