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  3. I've been saying "if AI is making you so productive then where is all this great new software" and I guess the answer is the software is out there it's just not great, it's terrible, and nobody is using it

I've been saying "if AI is making you so productive then where is all this great new software" and I guess the answer is the software is out there it's just not great, it's terrible, and nobody is using it

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  • alice@mk.nyaa.placeA alice@mk.nyaa.place

    @eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place can confirm, same as e.g. flathub was getting fucking flooded with slop until they enacted the recent no-slop policy

    and did that flood result in anything good? unsurprisingly, no, it didn't, it's all shit, nobody is using those apps and nobody is gonna maintain them once the bubble pops

    edit: oh, and I'm only talking about accepted submissions here! even before the policy there was an even biigger flood of slop submissions that got rejected because they couldn't follow the most basic rules (unsurprisingly too)

    brooke@bikeshed.vibber.netB This user is from outside of this forum
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    #24

    @alice @eniko *me looking at the state of things* "this is the perfect time for me to pivot to freelance app development" :headdesk:

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    • brooke@bikeshed.vibber.netB brooke@bikeshed.vibber.net

      @alice @eniko *me looking at the state of things* "this is the perfect time for me to pivot to freelance app development" :headdesk:

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      #25

      @brooke@bikeshed.vibber.net @eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place it's also fun when I've been working on a thing for close to 3 years now, and it's relatively close to a release, but also it's now and do i even want to release it at this period of time vs waiting until the literal shitstorm clears up

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      • alice@mk.nyaa.placeA alice@mk.nyaa.place

        @brooke@bikeshed.vibber.net @eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place it's also fun when I've been working on a thing for close to 3 years now, and it's relatively close to a release, but also it's now and do i even want to release it at this period of time vs waiting until the literal shitstorm clears up

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        #26

        @alice @eniko 🔥 🐶 ☕ 🔥 this is fine

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        • alice@mk.nyaa.placeA alice@mk.nyaa.place

          @eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place can confirm, same as e.g. flathub was getting fucking flooded with slop until they enacted the recent no-slop policy

          and did that flood result in anything good? unsurprisingly, no, it didn't, it's all shit, nobody is using those apps and nobody is gonna maintain them once the bubble pops

          edit: oh, and I'm only talking about accepted submissions here! even before the policy there was an even biigger flood of slop submissions that got rejected because they couldn't follow the most basic rules (unsurprisingly too)

          srazkvt@tech.lgbtS This user is from outside of this forum
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          #27

          @alice @eniko that reminds me of that guy who said "why flathub cares what devs use to make their apps" but i only realised now that it's pretty normal actually to limit wastes of ressources on apps nobody wants to use

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          • toerror@mastodon.gamedev.placeT toerror@mastodon.gamedev.place

            @mmby @aeva @eniko Banking apps already killed mobile. No way I'm running [random thing] on the same device as that.

            ozzelot@mstdn.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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            #28

            @toerror
            I found a bank that lets me exist without an app... for now

            (Sure, SMS 2FA is, erm, not amazing, but is trusting a years-out-of-date android version that much more secure?)
            @mmby @aeva @eniko

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            • jargoggles@kolektiva.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #29

              @dome @eniko
              If you're not a programmer, how on earth do you know if it's more secure?

              "I'm not a civil engineer, but I used AI to make this bridge sturdier."

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              • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                RE: https://mastodon.social/@jplebreton/116709297088742776

                I've been saying "if AI is making you so productive then where is all this great new software" and I guess the answer is the software is out there it's just not great, it's terrible, and nobody is using it

                scavello@mastodon.gamedev.placeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                #30

                @eniko Even if it is great, how are people supposed to find among all the trash? Its made an already existing problem worse

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                • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                  RE: https://mastodon.social/@jplebreton/116709297088742776

                  I've been saying "if AI is making you so productive then where is all this great new software" and I guess the answer is the software is out there it's just not great, it's terrible, and nobody is using it

                  eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #31

                  this post has made all the AI users Big Mad™

                  matildalove@wetdry.worldM lambdacalculus@masto.hackers.townL ozzelot@mstdn.socialO 0x0961h@mastodon.gamedev.place0 jan0h4ck@mastodon.gamedev.placeJ 9 Replies Last reply
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                  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                    this post has made all the AI users Big Mad™

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                    #32

                    @eniko keep up the good work!

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                    • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                      this post has made all the AI users Big Mad™

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                      #33

                      @eniko Well done!

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                      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                        RE: https://mastodon.social/@jplebreton/116709297088742776

                        I've been saying "if AI is making you so productive then where is all this great new software" and I guess the answer is the software is out there it's just not great, it's terrible, and nobody is using it

                        zwol@masto.hackers.townZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #34

                        @eniko I seriously wonder how many of those are in aid of some kind of scam.

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                        • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                          RE: https://mastodon.social/@jplebreton/116709297088742776

                          I've been saying "if AI is making you so productive then where is all this great new software" and I guess the answer is the software is out there it's just not great, it's terrible, and nobody is using it

                          401matthall@mastodon.xyz4 This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #35

                          @eniko

                          "I was able to rapidly go from prototype to finished product using Agentic AI!"

                          ...

                          "Steve, nobody is using your finished product."

                          ...

                          "Well, it was a horrible idea that nobody wanted to build. So... Yeah.'

                          ...

                          👀

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                          • scavello@mastodon.gamedev.placeS scavello@mastodon.gamedev.place

                            @eniko Even if it is great, how are people supposed to find among all the trash? Its made an already existing problem worse

                            nini@oldbytes.spaceN This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #36

                            @scavello @eniko "Flooding the zone with shit" applies to everything.

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                            • nini@oldbytes.spaceN nini@oldbytes.space

                              @scavello @eniko "Flooding the zone with shit" applies to everything.

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                              #37

                              @nini @eniko I mean, pretty much every dev I see on GDP complains about having to market their game so people can find it

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                              • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                this post has made all the AI users Big Mad™

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                                #38

                                @eniko
                                A victory, then.

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                                • alice@mk.nyaa.placeA alice@mk.nyaa.place

                                  @eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place can confirm, same as e.g. flathub was getting fucking flooded with slop until they enacted the recent no-slop policy

                                  and did that flood result in anything good? unsurprisingly, no, it didn't, it's all shit, nobody is using those apps and nobody is gonna maintain them once the bubble pops

                                  edit: oh, and I'm only talking about accepted submissions here! even before the policy there was an even biigger flood of slop submissions that got rejected because they couldn't follow the most basic rules (unsurprisingly too)

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                                  #39

                                  @eniko @alice 👎 the flood of junk apps is so frustrating on both maintainers trying to organize a collection and the people trying to find genuinely useful apps.

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                                  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                    RE: https://mastodon.social/@jplebreton/116709297088742776

                                    I've been saying "if AI is making you so productive then where is all this great new software" and I guess the answer is the software is out there it's just not great, it's terrible, and nobody is using it

                                    petealexharris@mastodon.scotP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #40

                                    @eniko
                                    This looks exactly like how there are a vastly increased number of ebooks available on Amazon.

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                                    • 0x0961h@mastodon.gamedev.place0 This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #41

                                      @dome @jargoggles @eniko Your problem is that it's "good enough" in your non-programmer eyes. For now.

                                      And then you'll find yourself wondering why it 100%s your GPU in idle.

                                      And then starts the "burning through tokens trying to add more features or fix old stuff that suddenly was overwritten during ai hiccup" dance.

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                                      • 0x0961h@mastodon.gamedev.place0 0x0961h@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                        @dome @jargoggles @eniko Your problem is that it's "good enough" in your non-programmer eyes. For now.

                                        And then you'll find yourself wondering why it 100%s your GPU in idle.

                                        And then starts the "burning through tokens trying to add more features or fix old stuff that suddenly was overwritten during ai hiccup" dance.

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                                        #42

                                        @dome @jargoggles @eniko (Non-ethical) problem with vibe code is that while you might find ai useful for _producing_ code, it's not useful for _supporting_ it.

                                        Just like ai "artist" can't fix slop because they have no idea how light works, how clothes works, and fixing ai "art" with ai just makes a new image leaving nothing from the old iteration.

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                                        • 0x0961h@mastodon.gamedev.place0 0x0961h@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                          @dome @jargoggles @eniko (Non-ethical) problem with vibe code is that while you might find ai useful for _producing_ code, it's not useful for _supporting_ it.

                                          Just like ai "artist" can't fix slop because they have no idea how light works, how clothes works, and fixing ai "art" with ai just makes a new image leaving nothing from the old iteration.

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                                          #43

                                          @dome @jargoggles @eniko Why do you think code slop is any different from art slop? It's the same LLM technology under all this crap about productivity no one asked for.

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