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  3. I've been saying "if AI is making you so productive then where is all this great new software" and I guess the answer is the software is out there it's just not great, it's terrible, and nobody is using it

I've been saying "if AI is making you so productive then where is all this great new software" and I guess the answer is the software is out there it's just not great, it's terrible, and nobody is using it

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  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

    RE: https://mastodon.social/@jplebreton/116709297088742776

    I've been saying "if AI is making you so productive then where is all this great new software" and I guess the answer is the software is out there it's just not great, it's terrible, and nobody is using it

    scavello@mastodon.gamedev.placeS This user is from outside of this forum
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    #30

    @eniko Even if it is great, how are people supposed to find among all the trash? Its made an already existing problem worse

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    • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

      RE: https://mastodon.social/@jplebreton/116709297088742776

      I've been saying "if AI is making you so productive then where is all this great new software" and I guess the answer is the software is out there it's just not great, it's terrible, and nobody is using it

      eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE This user is from outside of this forum
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      #31

      this post has made all the AI users Big Mad™

      matildalove@wetdry.worldM lambdacalculus@masto.hackers.townL ozzelot@mstdn.socialO 0x0961h@mastodon.gamedev.place0 jan0h4ck@mastodon.gamedev.placeJ 9 Replies Last reply
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      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

        this post has made all the AI users Big Mad™

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        #32

        @eniko keep up the good work!

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        • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

          this post has made all the AI users Big Mad™

          lambdacalculus@masto.hackers.townL This user is from outside of this forum
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          #33

          @eniko Well done!

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          • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

            RE: https://mastodon.social/@jplebreton/116709297088742776

            I've been saying "if AI is making you so productive then where is all this great new software" and I guess the answer is the software is out there it's just not great, it's terrible, and nobody is using it

            zwol@masto.hackers.townZ This user is from outside of this forum
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            #34

            @eniko I seriously wonder how many of those are in aid of some kind of scam.

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            • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

              RE: https://mastodon.social/@jplebreton/116709297088742776

              I've been saying "if AI is making you so productive then where is all this great new software" and I guess the answer is the software is out there it's just not great, it's terrible, and nobody is using it

              401matthall@mastodon.xyz4 This user is from outside of this forum
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              #35

              @eniko

              "I was able to rapidly go from prototype to finished product using Agentic AI!"

              ...

              "Steve, nobody is using your finished product."

              ...

              "Well, it was a horrible idea that nobody wanted to build. So... Yeah.'

              ...

              👀

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              • scavello@mastodon.gamedev.placeS scavello@mastodon.gamedev.place

                @eniko Even if it is great, how are people supposed to find among all the trash? Its made an already existing problem worse

                nini@oldbytes.spaceN This user is from outside of this forum
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                #36

                @scavello @eniko "Flooding the zone with shit" applies to everything.

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                • nini@oldbytes.spaceN nini@oldbytes.space

                  @scavello @eniko "Flooding the zone with shit" applies to everything.

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                  #37

                  @nini @eniko I mean, pretty much every dev I see on GDP complains about having to market their game so people can find it

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                  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                    this post has made all the AI users Big Mad™

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                    #38

                    @eniko
                    A victory, then.

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                    • alice@mk.nyaa.placeA alice@mk.nyaa.place

                      @eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place can confirm, same as e.g. flathub was getting fucking flooded with slop until they enacted the recent no-slop policy

                      and did that flood result in anything good? unsurprisingly, no, it didn't, it's all shit, nobody is using those apps and nobody is gonna maintain them once the bubble pops

                      edit: oh, and I'm only talking about accepted submissions here! even before the policy there was an even biigger flood of slop submissions that got rejected because they couldn't follow the most basic rules (unsurprisingly too)

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                      #39

                      @eniko @alice 👎 the flood of junk apps is so frustrating on both maintainers trying to organize a collection and the people trying to find genuinely useful apps.

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                      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                        RE: https://mastodon.social/@jplebreton/116709297088742776

                        I've been saying "if AI is making you so productive then where is all this great new software" and I guess the answer is the software is out there it's just not great, it's terrible, and nobody is using it

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                        #40

                        @eniko
                        This looks exactly like how there are a vastly increased number of ebooks available on Amazon.

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                          #41

                          @dome @jargoggles @eniko Your problem is that it's "good enough" in your non-programmer eyes. For now.

                          And then you'll find yourself wondering why it 100%s your GPU in idle.

                          And then starts the "burning through tokens trying to add more features or fix old stuff that suddenly was overwritten during ai hiccup" dance.

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                          • 0x0961h@mastodon.gamedev.place0 0x0961h@mastodon.gamedev.place

                            @dome @jargoggles @eniko Your problem is that it's "good enough" in your non-programmer eyes. For now.

                            And then you'll find yourself wondering why it 100%s your GPU in idle.

                            And then starts the "burning through tokens trying to add more features or fix old stuff that suddenly was overwritten during ai hiccup" dance.

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                            #42

                            @dome @jargoggles @eniko (Non-ethical) problem with vibe code is that while you might find ai useful for _producing_ code, it's not useful for _supporting_ it.

                            Just like ai "artist" can't fix slop because they have no idea how light works, how clothes works, and fixing ai "art" with ai just makes a new image leaving nothing from the old iteration.

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                            • 0x0961h@mastodon.gamedev.place0 0x0961h@mastodon.gamedev.place

                              @dome @jargoggles @eniko (Non-ethical) problem with vibe code is that while you might find ai useful for _producing_ code, it's not useful for _supporting_ it.

                              Just like ai "artist" can't fix slop because they have no idea how light works, how clothes works, and fixing ai "art" with ai just makes a new image leaving nothing from the old iteration.

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                              #43

                              @dome @jargoggles @eniko Why do you think code slop is any different from art slop? It's the same LLM technology under all this crap about productivity no one asked for.

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                              • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                this post has made all the AI users Big Mad™

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                                #44

                                @eniko You're just a left-behind hater. 😒 /s

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                                • dacmot@sunny.gardenD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #45

                                  @dome "This thing I made with AI that doesn't show up in search results is AMAZING! Trust me bro. I have years of experience in everything related to it, except it."

                                  🤔

                                  @jargoggles @eniko

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                                  • dacmot@sunny.gardenD dacmot@sunny.garden

                                    @dome "This thing I made with AI that doesn't show up in search results is AMAZING! Trust me bro. I have years of experience in everything related to it, except it."

                                    🤔

                                    @jargoggles @eniko

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                                    #46

                                    @dacmot @jargoggles @eniko I just recently started building this fork. Why should it be well known and wide spread? And its open source so just look at the code if you are worried. 🙃

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                                    • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                      this post has made all the AI users Big Mad™

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                                      #47

                                      @eniko big AI doesn't want you to know this

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                                      • scavello@mastodon.gamedev.placeS scavello@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                        @nini @eniko I mean, pretty much every dev I see on GDP complains about having to market their game so people can find it

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                                        #48

                                        @scavello @eniko And now their job of marketing is taking up more of their time so that complaint is only going to get louder, right?

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                                        • nini@oldbytes.spaceN nini@oldbytes.space

                                          @scavello @eniko "Flooding the zone with shit" applies to everything.

                                          enot@masto.hackers.townE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #49

                                          @nini @scavello @eniko looking at you video game marketplaces

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