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For reasons the topic of super heroes came up during therapy.

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  • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

    For reasons the topic of super heroes came up during therapy. I mentioned how batman had been ruined for me when I fully understood that Bruce Wayne as a billionaire could have solved all the problems of Gotham city, but instead chose to spend his nights beating up the poor and mentally ill.

    "Now you've ruined batman for me too"

    "Oops"

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    #6

    @quixoticgeek Yeah, but "traumatized" billionaires are apparently off the hook because of trauma! smh

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    • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

      For reasons the topic of super heroes came up during therapy. I mentioned how batman had been ruined for me when I fully understood that Bruce Wayne as a billionaire could have solved all the problems of Gotham city, but instead chose to spend his nights beating up the poor and mentally ill.

      "Now you've ruined batman for me too"

      "Oops"

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      #7

      @quixoticgeek yep they try to say batman is different by poiting to the handful of comics where it is revealed he basically funds everything and someone magically still makes money and also doesnt help any significant change,

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      • bovaz@misskey.socialB bovaz@misskey.social
        @quixoticgeek@social.v.st that's always been an interesting worldbuilding exercise. He clearly has the capital to change Gotham, so why doesn't he? Suppose he would like to, and that he pays all his taxes.
        Perhaps a private corp can't just take over the city's infrastructure. Perhaps there is a protocol to follow to change that. Perhaps there is some entrenched interests opposing it: for example, to any transit innovation, he'd find taxi drivers locking down parts of the city in protest against supposed cuts to their business.

        If I reason it through, the only way I see would be a political campaign taking him to the presidency, where he'd push through laws strongly taxing the rich at all levels. He would then naturally be opposed by Lex Luthor, at the very least.
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        #8
        @quixoticgeek@social.v.st why doesn't he go for that then? Luthor has been shown to win presidential elections in the US, even though he's a known villain.
        Wayne is generally known as a philanthrope and or partydude. Sure, working at becoming president would cut into his Batman time. Has he not found a strategy to beat Luthor? Is the system so corrupt that he can't beat Luthor at this game?
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        • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

          For reasons the topic of super heroes came up during therapy. I mentioned how batman had been ruined for me when I fully understood that Bruce Wayne as a billionaire could have solved all the problems of Gotham city, but instead chose to spend his nights beating up the poor and mentally ill.

          "Now you've ruined batman for me too"

          "Oops"

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          #9

          @quixoticgeek If you can stomach body horror, Absolute Batman has been great so far! It's working class Batman fighting against the overwhelming horrors of the world's power structures. The Joker is the billionaire. And so far it's been very thoughtful, with a focus on how the system and those in power corrupt people. It even provides a criticism of Bruce Wayne Classic's philantropy, with a common theme being the use of power to provide localized benefit to help sustain the broader system.

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          • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

            For reasons the topic of super heroes came up during therapy. I mentioned how batman had been ruined for me when I fully understood that Bruce Wayne as a billionaire could have solved all the problems of Gotham city, but instead chose to spend his nights beating up the poor and mentally ill.

            "Now you've ruined batman for me too"

            "Oops"

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            #10

            @quixoticgeek Reminds me of how Thanos is a shit villain in the movies because he could have created sources of resources for everyone to survive and instead decided that he was the good guy because he was murdering trillions of people.

            And also none of the Avengers bothered to suggest that solution to him either. Maybe it’s because only Tony Stark had the opportunity to sit and chat with him and he too was a billionaire.
            Regardless, those Avengers ain’t so bright.

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            • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

              For reasons the topic of super heroes came up during therapy. I mentioned how batman had been ruined for me when I fully understood that Bruce Wayne as a billionaire could have solved all the problems of Gotham city, but instead chose to spend his nights beating up the poor and mentally ill.

              "Now you've ruined batman for me too"

              "Oops"

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              #11

              @quixoticgeek the joker doesnt exist because of income inequality. That should help.

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              • thejacenallen@mastodon.socialT thejacenallen@mastodon.social

                @quixoticgeek the joker doesnt exist because of income inequality. That should help.

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                #12

                @thejacenallen no. He exists because of an underfunded healthcare system... One that could perhaps... Be better funded...

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                • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

                  For reasons the topic of super heroes came up during therapy. I mentioned how batman had been ruined for me when I fully understood that Bruce Wayne as a billionaire could have solved all the problems of Gotham city, but instead chose to spend his nights beating up the poor and mentally ill.

                  "Now you've ruined batman for me too"

                  "Oops"

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                  #13

                  @quixoticgeek

                  the joker wasn't a privileged billionaire

                  his story resonated a lot more imho

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                  • rzeta0@mastodon.ieR rzeta0@mastodon.ie

                    @quixoticgeek

                    the joker wasn't a privileged billionaire

                    his story resonated a lot more imho

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                    #14

                    @rzeta0 no. He's a mentally ill person for whom the healthcare system has failed him.

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                    • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

                      @rzeta0 no. He's a mentally ill person for whom the healthcare system has failed him.

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                      #15

                      @quixoticgeek

                      which is why his story is a lot more relatable

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                      • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

                        For reasons the topic of super heroes came up during therapy. I mentioned how batman had been ruined for me when I fully understood that Bruce Wayne as a billionaire could have solved all the problems of Gotham city, but instead chose to spend his nights beating up the poor and mentally ill.

                        "Now you've ruined batman for me too"

                        "Oops"

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                        #16

                        @quixoticgeek ehm... Batman does not exist.

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                        • uriel@bbs.keinpfusch.netU uriel@bbs.keinpfusch.net

                          @quixoticgeek ehm... Batman does not exist.

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                          #17

                          @uriel is that a signature in a Mastodon post ?!?!

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                          • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

                            For reasons the topic of super heroes came up during therapy. I mentioned how batman had been ruined for me when I fully understood that Bruce Wayne as a billionaire could have solved all the problems of Gotham city, but instead chose to spend his nights beating up the poor and mentally ill.

                            "Now you've ruined batman for me too"

                            "Oops"

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                            #18

                            @quixoticgeek Apparently this has actually been addressed in the comics at some point; it transpires that Gotham is literally cursed and thus unfixable, and it takes all Bruce Wayne's wealth and Batman's badassery just to keep it at the current level of dystopia

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                            • dalillama@tsukihi.meD dalillama@tsukihi.me

                              @quixoticgeek Apparently this has actually been addressed in the comics at some point; it transpires that Gotham is literally cursed and thus unfixable, and it takes all Bruce Wayne's wealth and Batman's badassery just to keep it at the current level of dystopia

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                              @Dalillama that feels a lot like someone trying to retcon the fact Bruce Wayne is a shit.

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                              • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

                                For reasons the topic of super heroes came up during therapy. I mentioned how batman had been ruined for me when I fully understood that Bruce Wayne as a billionaire could have solved all the problems of Gotham city, but instead chose to spend his nights beating up the poor and mentally ill.

                                "Now you've ruined batman for me too"

                                "Oops"

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                                #20

                                @quixoticgeek this is one of the reasons I liked the movie Batman Returns so much, the plot kind of underscored that by emphasizing the wealth of the antagonists and the amazing indifference they had towards regular people

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                                • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

                                  @Dalillama that feels a lot like someone trying to retcon the fact Bruce Wayne is a shit.

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                                  #21

                                  @quixoticgeek That's undoubtedly part of it, but it's also narrative necessity: in order for Batman to exist, Gotham needs to be a shadowy dystopia. If he actually fixes anything in the long term, the comics are over. Since he's super competent and also super rich (Wayne's wealth has grown considerably over the decades), there must be an external factor stopping him from ever fixing anything, otherwise he'd have won by now.

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                                  • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

                                    @uriel is that a signature in a Mastodon post ?!?!

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                                    #22

                                    @quixoticgeek

                                    yep. I am developing Aktor, the instance I am writing from, so I added a few new features, like IPFS cdn/storage, lua filters... and RFC  signature.

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                                    • dalillama@tsukihi.meD dalillama@tsukihi.me

                                      @quixoticgeek That's undoubtedly part of it, but it's also narrative necessity: in order for Batman to exist, Gotham needs to be a shadowy dystopia. If he actually fixes anything in the long term, the comics are over. Since he's super competent and also super rich (Wayne's wealth has grown considerably over the decades), there must be an external factor stopping him from ever fixing anything, otherwise he'd have won by now.

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                                      #23

                                      @Dalillama yes. His unwillingness to simplify pay to fix the problems. The fact he's this rich implies he's exploited the city, which creates these problems...

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                                      • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

                                        For reasons the topic of super heroes came up during therapy. I mentioned how batman had been ruined for me when I fully understood that Bruce Wayne as a billionaire could have solved all the problems of Gotham city, but instead chose to spend his nights beating up the poor and mentally ill.

                                        "Now you've ruined batman for me too"

                                        "Oops"

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                                        #24

                                        @quixoticgeek That's a deep insight, actually

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                                        • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

                                          @Dalillama yes. His unwillingness to simplify pay to fix the problems. The fact he's this rich implies he's exploited the city, which creates these problems...

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                                          #25

                                          @quixoticgeek Various writers have put in all kinds of programs he uses Wayne money to run, so it's established that he's trying to buy solutions. Of course, the real answer is that DC America is capitalist, and one specific capitalist can't actually buy all the fixes, but the DC writers aren't commies, so they invented an ancient curse instead.

                                          Also, part of the disconnect is that when he started, Bruce Wayne had trust-fund kid money, not industrial tycoon money, which is why back in the day he fought crime in a costume: money for fancy cars isn't the same level as money to renovate a whole city. Modern iterations don't make nearly as much sense

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