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  • decius@mastodon.scotD decius@mastodon.scot

    @pozorvlak @quixoticgeek Batman as proof of ACAB. Gotham PD doesn’t fight crime, it’s up to one random dude to actually stop muggings.

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    #26

    @decius @pozorvlak @quixoticgeek It's well established that in Gotham, most of the police are corrupt, except for Gordan, which is how the criminal orgs get away with their operations. And also Batman violates all sorts of civil liberties to get results, where GCPD have to deal with hurdles like probable cause and the 4th amendment.

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    • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

      For reasons the topic of super heroes came up during therapy. I mentioned how batman had been ruined for me when I fully understood that Bruce Wayne as a billionaire could have solved all the problems of Gotham city, but instead chose to spend his nights beating up the poor and mentally ill.

      "Now you've ruined batman for me too"

      "Oops"

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      #27

      @quixoticgeek But in the comics, he does do all that AS WELL.

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      • decius@mastodon.scotD decius@mastodon.scot

        @pozorvlak @quixoticgeek Batman as proof of ACAB. Gotham PD doesn’t fight crime, it’s up to one random dude to actually stop muggings.

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        #28

        @decius @pozorvlak @quixoticgeek Kinda came to say this. BTAS had a whole episode centered on this where it was clear he was dumping money into social programs and it was just a situation where nothing was ever enough. The city was just so systemically fucked that one person alone simply could not fix it. And this was already a series that rewrote cops who were absolutely corrupt in the comics because of broadcast standards of the time. In some ways costumed villains are the least of the city's problems.

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        • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

          For reasons the topic of super heroes came up during therapy. I mentioned how batman had been ruined for me when I fully understood that Bruce Wayne as a billionaire could have solved all the problems of Gotham city, but instead chose to spend his nights beating up the poor and mentally ill.

          "Now you've ruined batman for me too"

          "Oops"

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          #29

          @quixoticgeek

          But that's what all billionaires do, one way or another. (Harm the poor and the mentally ill.)

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          • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

            For reasons the topic of super heroes came up during therapy. I mentioned how batman had been ruined for me when I fully understood that Bruce Wayne as a billionaire could have solved all the problems of Gotham city, but instead chose to spend his nights beating up the poor and mentally ill.

            "Now you've ruined batman for me too"

            "Oops"

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            #30

            @quixoticgeek

            I had a dream once that Batman wasn't real. What happened is that commissioner Gordon witnessed the murder of his family, and he ended up with a bunch of trauma that he did not deal with effectively. So he would go out to do cop stuff, sometimes he would witness a crime and dissociate super hard, and he would beat the criminal to a bloody pulp and believe that he was standing far away watching a guy dressed as a bat do that.

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            • megamichelle@a2mi.socialM megamichelle@a2mi.social

              @quixoticgeek

              I had a dream once that Batman wasn't real. What happened is that commissioner Gordon witnessed the murder of his family, and he ended up with a bunch of trauma that he did not deal with effectively. So he would go out to do cop stuff, sometimes he would witness a crime and dissociate super hard, and he would beat the criminal to a bloody pulp and believe that he was standing far away watching a guy dressed as a bat do that.

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              #31

              @quixoticgeek

              Oh, and also, in that dream, commissioner Gordon was friends with Bruce Wayne, as a young boy, had also been traumatized by witnessing a crime. Bruce Wayne responded by donating to the police and to, like, midnight basketball and youth community centers and stuff like that.

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              • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

                @thejacenallen no. He exists because of an underfunded healthcare system... One that could perhaps... Be better funded...

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                #32

                @quixoticgeek no thats not true. Hes legit insane. Not just a consequence of healthcare. Theres the story line where Joker goes ‘sane’ and has a kid and a family just to end up absolutely bat shit crazy again. I think we disagree but thats ok. Have a good one.

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                • thejacenallen@mastodon.socialT thejacenallen@mastodon.social

                  @quixoticgeek no thats not true. Hes legit insane. Not just a consequence of healthcare. Theres the story line where Joker goes ‘sane’ and has a kid and a family just to end up absolutely bat shit crazy again. I think we disagree but thats ok. Have a good one.

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                  #33

                  @thejacenallen Yes, and if someone is completely insane, why are they on the streets and not secure in a treatment facility?

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                  • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

                    @thejacenallen Yes, and if someone is completely insane, why are they on the streets and not secure in a treatment facility?

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                    #34

                    @quixoticgeek hes not regualr joe insane hes watch the world burn, break out of prison, kidnap and blackmail your way around, insane. Not really comparable to our real world. Outside of the epstein billionaire class and hey theyre not locked up in our world. Soooo…..

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                    • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

                      For reasons the topic of super heroes came up during therapy. I mentioned how batman had been ruined for me when I fully understood that Bruce Wayne as a billionaire could have solved all the problems of Gotham city, but instead chose to spend his nights beating up the poor and mentally ill.

                      "Now you've ruined batman for me too"

                      "Oops"

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                      #35

                      @quixoticgeek Give him some credit, here. He doesn't just beat them up. He HUNTS for them to beat them up, including working with informants. So much worse...

                      Also, I always find it bizarre that the mentally ill part came out of Denny O'Neil's run. Before that, you could dismiss the problems as the only solution to the worst possible crime, but once Arkham appears and becomes a plot device, it's horrific.

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                      • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

                        For reasons the topic of super heroes came up during therapy. I mentioned how batman had been ruined for me when I fully understood that Bruce Wayne as a billionaire could have solved all the problems of Gotham city, but instead chose to spend his nights beating up the poor and mentally ill.

                        "Now you've ruined batman for me too"

                        "Oops"

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                        #36

                        @quixoticgeek

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                        • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

                          For reasons the topic of super heroes came up during therapy. I mentioned how batman had been ruined for me when I fully understood that Bruce Wayne as a billionaire could have solved all the problems of Gotham city, but instead chose to spend his nights beating up the poor and mentally ill.

                          "Now you've ruined batman for me too"

                          "Oops"

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                          #37

                          @quixoticgeek Also the questionable relationship with local orphanages ...

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