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  3. I've been shushing people who say there won't be free #elections in the #USA anymore

I've been shushing people who say there won't be free #elections in the #USA anymore

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  • jawarajabbi@mastodon.onlineJ jawarajabbi@mastodon.online

    @benroyce

    Agreed. They are either naive or complicit. It is unhelpful in the extreme to participate in raising anxiety. The pros are on the case. #uspol

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    #3

    @jawarajabbi

    i see european accounts saying the vote in the USA is now corrupted

    europeans also like to tell americans to vote third party

    third party in an FPTP voting system divides the left and hands MAGA a win

    and the vote is controlled by the states. maybe some red states will corrupt the vote but they are already red states

    europeans are entitled to speak on american politics

    but europeans really need to educate themselves before they say something which only harms their own concerns

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      I've been shushing people who say there won't be free #elections in the #USA anymore

      #Cynicism leads to #prematureCapitulation: "if the #vote is corrupt, why vote"

      Americans are lazy about voting as it is. Weak whiny "the sky is falling!" statements just because malicious intent exists is enough to make some give up

      Besides, elections are controlled by the states

      On that note (they won't succeed):

      "#Trump urges #Republicans to 'take over' and 'nationalize' voting"

      https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-urges-republicans-nationalize-voting/story?id=129793658

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      #4

      @benroyce
      Correct take.

      The danger? Real.

      The fait accompli? Fake news.

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        #5

        @CptSuperlative

        just trump as usual pushing as far as he can to see how much he can get. it's unfortunately worked for him so far. but some of it is too far as we've seen on a number of his malicious bullshit efforts, fortunately

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        • jaystephens@mastodon.socialJ jaystephens@mastodon.social

          @benroyce
          Correct take.

          The danger? Real.

          The fait accompli? Fake news.

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          #6

          @jaystephens

          say it louder, for all the whiny spineless mindlessly cynical chicken littles

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          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

            I've been shushing people who say there won't be free #elections in the #USA anymore

            #Cynicism leads to #prematureCapitulation: "if the #vote is corrupt, why vote"

            Americans are lazy about voting as it is. Weak whiny "the sky is falling!" statements just because malicious intent exists is enough to make some give up

            Besides, elections are controlled by the states

            On that note (they won't succeed):

            "#Trump urges #Republicans to 'take over' and 'nationalize' voting"

            https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-urges-republicans-nationalize-voting/story?id=129793658

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            #7

            @benroyce 🎯 ... the doomsayers make me want to scream.

            They 💯 are going to make voting more difficult. Our job is to vote No. Matter. What.

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            • kanamauna@sauropods.winK This user is from outside of this forum
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              #8

              @CptSuperlative @benroyce

              It gets even worse. Voting is usually administered at the county level. Setting aside the legalities of it all, can you imagine the federal government trying to organize tens of thousands of local elections at different times of the year on different schedules?

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              • kanamauna@sauropods.winK kanamauna@sauropods.win

                @CptSuperlative @benroyce

                It gets even worse. Voting is usually administered at the county level. Setting aside the legalities of it all, can you imagine the federal government trying to organize tens of thousands of local elections at different times of the year on different schedules?

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                #9

                @KanaMauna @CptSuperlative

                it's trump

                he's a moron

                that he has made it this far is eternal national shame

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @jaystephens

                  say it louder, for all the whiny spineless mindlessly cynical chicken littles

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                  #10

                  @benroyce @jaystephens eglgpf. vote no worky

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                  • jorgaborg@brain.worm.pinkJ jorgaborg@brain.worm.pink

                    @benroyce @jaystephens eglgpf. vote no worky

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                    #11

                    @jorgaborg @jaystephens

                    vote no worky 'cause morons no votey

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                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                      @jorgaborg @jaystephens

                      vote no worky 'cause morons no votey

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                      #12

                      @benroyce @jaystephens i hope it’s obvious that im joking there. i certainly didnt stand by while the country elected a pants-shitting orange moron

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                        #13

                        @CptSuperlative @benroyce

                        I would rather see it stay how it is... "make the hackers really work to scam the system"... versus only having to learn one type and location for the data.

                        -
                        But we do need better toughness on voting records to remain in voting districts - meaning no one can take the originals.

                        They can submit a FOIA and get a copy - at going $$ price... but they don't get the originals. e.g. the corruption they just foisted on Fulton County, GA.

                        And no voter data.

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                        • jorgaborg@brain.worm.pinkJ jorgaborg@brain.worm.pink

                          @benroyce @jaystephens i hope it’s obvious that im joking there. i certainly didnt stand by while the country elected a pants-shitting orange moron

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                          #14

                          @jorgaborg @jaystephens

                          no problem. i am punch drunk from all the trolls so it's hard for me to tell

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                          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                            @jawarajabbi

                            i see european accounts saying the vote in the USA is now corrupted

                            europeans also like to tell americans to vote third party

                            third party in an FPTP voting system divides the left and hands MAGA a win

                            and the vote is controlled by the states. maybe some red states will corrupt the vote but they are already red states

                            europeans are entitled to speak on american politics

                            but europeans really need to educate themselves before they say something which only harms their own concerns

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                            #15

                            @benroyce stay strong! Germany did not and anyone knows how horrible that ended.
                            Hitler was the result of being weak and colaborative. May all nazis burn in hell.

                            @jawarajabbi

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                            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                              I've been shushing people who say there won't be free #elections in the #USA anymore

                              #Cynicism leads to #prematureCapitulation: "if the #vote is corrupt, why vote"

                              Americans are lazy about voting as it is. Weak whiny "the sky is falling!" statements just because malicious intent exists is enough to make some give up

                              Besides, elections are controlled by the states

                              On that note (they won't succeed):

                              "#Trump urges #Republicans to 'take over' and 'nationalize' voting"

                              https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-urges-republicans-nationalize-voting/story?id=129793658

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                              #16

                              @benroyce - other truly democratic countries have arms-length federal body that runs federal elections. They provide the mechanisms / training for the election staff, they set the borders for each riding (based on giving each one approximately the same number of voters - not by skin colour or known political say) - and it’s not up to the country’s leader to direct his party to take over the election process.
                              That’s more along the lines of Russia or Belarus. Trump’s chums.

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                              • bazcook@mas.toB bazcook@mas.to

                                @benroyce - other truly democratic countries have arms-length federal body that runs federal elections. They provide the mechanisms / training for the election staff, they set the borders for each riding (based on giving each one approximately the same number of voters - not by skin colour or known political say) - and it’s not up to the country’s leader to direct his party to take over the election process.
                                That’s more along the lines of Russia or Belarus. Trump’s chums.

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                                #17

                                @bazcook

                                and those systems work

                                the usa's current problems are partly because our voting system is so antiquated. which other countries have vastly improved upon and are thus more resilient to the MAGA-like influences

                                but one benefit of our ancient crappy system is that it is so byzantine and locally controlled. therefore, harder for the orange turd to manipulate

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                                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                  I've been shushing people who say there won't be free #elections in the #USA anymore

                                  #Cynicism leads to #prematureCapitulation: "if the #vote is corrupt, why vote"

                                  Americans are lazy about voting as it is. Weak whiny "the sky is falling!" statements just because malicious intent exists is enough to make some give up

                                  Besides, elections are controlled by the states

                                  On that note (they won't succeed):

                                  "#Trump urges #Republicans to 'take over' and 'nationalize' voting"

                                  https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-urges-republicans-nationalize-voting/story?id=129793658

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                                  #18

                                  @benroyce And write it in COBOL to run on IBM 360 systems in keeping with the IRS system.

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                                  • regguy@mstdn.socialR regguy@mstdn.social

                                    @benroyce And write it in COBOL to run on IBM 360 systems in keeping with the IRS system.

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                                    #19

                                    @RegGuy 😂

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                                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                      I've been shushing people who say there won't be free #elections in the #USA anymore

                                      #Cynicism leads to #prematureCapitulation: "if the #vote is corrupt, why vote"

                                      Americans are lazy about voting as it is. Weak whiny "the sky is falling!" statements just because malicious intent exists is enough to make some give up

                                      Besides, elections are controlled by the states

                                      On that note (they won't succeed):

                                      "#Trump urges #Republicans to 'take over' and 'nationalize' voting"

                                      https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-urges-republicans-nationalize-voting/story?id=129793658

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                                      #20

                                      @benroyce I keep telling people this is the real reason he keeps saying it. If everyone gives up hope then it doesn't matter if it's true or not.

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                                      • wry@mstdn.socialW wry@mstdn.social

                                        @benroyce I keep telling people this is the real reason he keeps saying it. If everyone gives up hope then it doesn't matter if it's true or not.

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                                        #21

                                        @wry

                                        Unfortunately there's enough mindlessly cynical cowardly spineless Americans out there that #prematureCapitulation is a real effect. These losers (literally, not an empty insult) just give up merely because malice exists in the world. In some ways they are worse than #MAGA. You can fIght MAGA. What can you do with empty inert lumps ready to just submit? #Cynicism is acceptance

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                                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                          I've been shushing people who say there won't be free #elections in the #USA anymore

                                          #Cynicism leads to #prematureCapitulation: "if the #vote is corrupt, why vote"

                                          Americans are lazy about voting as it is. Weak whiny "the sky is falling!" statements just because malicious intent exists is enough to make some give up

                                          Besides, elections are controlled by the states

                                          On that note (they won't succeed):

                                          "#Trump urges #Republicans to 'take over' and 'nationalize' voting"

                                          https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-urges-republicans-nationalize-voting/story?id=129793658

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                                          #22

                                          @benroyce
                                          There is no one as tedious and annoying as the "both sides suck" "you're just voting for the lesser of two evils" edgelords

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