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  3. I've been shushing people who say there won't be free #elections in the #USA anymore

I've been shushing people who say there won't be free #elections in the #USA anymore

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  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    I've been shushing people who say there won't be free #elections in the #USA anymore

    #Cynicism leads to #prematureCapitulation: "if the #vote is corrupt, why vote"

    Americans are lazy about voting as it is. Weak whiny "the sky is falling!" statements just because malicious intent exists is enough to make some give up

    Besides, elections are controlled by the states

    On that note (they won't succeed):

    "#Trump urges #Republicans to 'take over' and 'nationalize' voting"

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-urges-republicans-nationalize-voting/story?id=129793658

    jawarajabbi@mastodon.onlineJ jaystephens@mastodon.socialJ pamelabarroway@mstdn.socialP bazcook@mas.toB regguy@mstdn.socialR 8 Replies Last reply
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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      I've been shushing people who say there won't be free #elections in the #USA anymore

      #Cynicism leads to #prematureCapitulation: "if the #vote is corrupt, why vote"

      Americans are lazy about voting as it is. Weak whiny "the sky is falling!" statements just because malicious intent exists is enough to make some give up

      Besides, elections are controlled by the states

      On that note (they won't succeed):

      "#Trump urges #Republicans to 'take over' and 'nationalize' voting"

      https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-urges-republicans-nationalize-voting/story?id=129793658

      jawarajabbi@mastodon.onlineJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @benroyce

      Agreed. They are either naive or complicit. It is unhelpful in the extreme to participate in raising anxiety. The pros are on the case. #uspol

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      • jawarajabbi@mastodon.onlineJ jawarajabbi@mastodon.online

        @benroyce

        Agreed. They are either naive or complicit. It is unhelpful in the extreme to participate in raising anxiety. The pros are on the case. #uspol

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        #3

        @jawarajabbi

        i see european accounts saying the vote in the USA is now corrupted

        europeans also like to tell americans to vote third party

        third party in an FPTP voting system divides the left and hands MAGA a win

        and the vote is controlled by the states. maybe some red states will corrupt the vote but they are already red states

        europeans are entitled to speak on american politics

        but europeans really need to educate themselves before they say something which only harms their own concerns

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        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

          I've been shushing people who say there won't be free #elections in the #USA anymore

          #Cynicism leads to #prematureCapitulation: "if the #vote is corrupt, why vote"

          Americans are lazy about voting as it is. Weak whiny "the sky is falling!" statements just because malicious intent exists is enough to make some give up

          Besides, elections are controlled by the states

          On that note (they won't succeed):

          "#Trump urges #Republicans to 'take over' and 'nationalize' voting"

          https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-urges-republicans-nationalize-voting/story?id=129793658

          jaystephens@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @benroyce
          Correct take.

          The danger? Real.

          The fait accompli? Fake news.

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            #5

            @CptSuperlative

            just trump as usual pushing as far as he can to see how much he can get. it's unfortunately worked for him so far. but some of it is too far as we've seen on a number of his malicious bullshit efforts, fortunately

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            • jaystephens@mastodon.socialJ jaystephens@mastodon.social

              @benroyce
              Correct take.

              The danger? Real.

              The fait accompli? Fake news.

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              #6

              @jaystephens

              say it louder, for all the whiny spineless mindlessly cynical chicken littles

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              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                I've been shushing people who say there won't be free #elections in the #USA anymore

                #Cynicism leads to #prematureCapitulation: "if the #vote is corrupt, why vote"

                Americans are lazy about voting as it is. Weak whiny "the sky is falling!" statements just because malicious intent exists is enough to make some give up

                Besides, elections are controlled by the states

                On that note (they won't succeed):

                "#Trump urges #Republicans to 'take over' and 'nationalize' voting"

                https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-urges-republicans-nationalize-voting/story?id=129793658

                pamelabarroway@mstdn.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @benroyce 🎯 ... the doomsayers make me want to scream.

                They 💯 are going to make voting more difficult. Our job is to vote No. Matter. What.

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                • kanamauna@sauropods.winK This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @CptSuperlative @benroyce

                  It gets even worse. Voting is usually administered at the county level. Setting aside the legalities of it all, can you imagine the federal government trying to organize tens of thousands of local elections at different times of the year on different schedules?

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                  • kanamauna@sauropods.winK kanamauna@sauropods.win

                    @CptSuperlative @benroyce

                    It gets even worse. Voting is usually administered at the county level. Setting aside the legalities of it all, can you imagine the federal government trying to organize tens of thousands of local elections at different times of the year on different schedules?

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                    #9

                    @KanaMauna @CptSuperlative

                    it's trump

                    he's a moron

                    that he has made it this far is eternal national shame

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                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                      @jaystephens

                      say it louder, for all the whiny spineless mindlessly cynical chicken littles

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                      #10

                      @benroyce @jaystephens eglgpf. vote no worky

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                      • jorgaborg@brain.worm.pinkJ jorgaborg@brain.worm.pink

                        @benroyce @jaystephens eglgpf. vote no worky

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                        #11

                        @jorgaborg @jaystephens

                        vote no worky 'cause morons no votey

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                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                          @jorgaborg @jaystephens

                          vote no worky 'cause morons no votey

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                          #12

                          @benroyce @jaystephens i hope it’s obvious that im joking there. i certainly didnt stand by while the country elected a pants-shitting orange moron

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                            #13

                            @CptSuperlative @benroyce

                            I would rather see it stay how it is... "make the hackers really work to scam the system"... versus only having to learn one type and location for the data.

                            -
                            But we do need better toughness on voting records to remain in voting districts - meaning no one can take the originals.

                            They can submit a FOIA and get a copy - at going $$ price... but they don't get the originals. e.g. the corruption they just foisted on Fulton County, GA.

                            And no voter data.

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                            • jorgaborg@brain.worm.pinkJ jorgaborg@brain.worm.pink

                              @benroyce @jaystephens i hope it’s obvious that im joking there. i certainly didnt stand by while the country elected a pants-shitting orange moron

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                              #14

                              @jorgaborg @jaystephens

                              no problem. i am punch drunk from all the trolls so it's hard for me to tell

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                              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                @jawarajabbi

                                i see european accounts saying the vote in the USA is now corrupted

                                europeans also like to tell americans to vote third party

                                third party in an FPTP voting system divides the left and hands MAGA a win

                                and the vote is controlled by the states. maybe some red states will corrupt the vote but they are already red states

                                europeans are entitled to speak on american politics

                                but europeans really need to educate themselves before they say something which only harms their own concerns

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                                #15

                                @benroyce stay strong! Germany did not and anyone knows how horrible that ended.
                                Hitler was the result of being weak and colaborative. May all nazis burn in hell.

                                @jawarajabbi

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                                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                  I've been shushing people who say there won't be free #elections in the #USA anymore

                                  #Cynicism leads to #prematureCapitulation: "if the #vote is corrupt, why vote"

                                  Americans are lazy about voting as it is. Weak whiny "the sky is falling!" statements just because malicious intent exists is enough to make some give up

                                  Besides, elections are controlled by the states

                                  On that note (they won't succeed):

                                  "#Trump urges #Republicans to 'take over' and 'nationalize' voting"

                                  https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-urges-republicans-nationalize-voting/story?id=129793658

                                  bazcook@mas.toB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #16

                                  @benroyce - other truly democratic countries have arms-length federal body that runs federal elections. They provide the mechanisms / training for the election staff, they set the borders for each riding (based on giving each one approximately the same number of voters - not by skin colour or known political say) - and it’s not up to the country’s leader to direct his party to take over the election process.
                                  That’s more along the lines of Russia or Belarus. Trump’s chums.

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                                  • bazcook@mas.toB bazcook@mas.to

                                    @benroyce - other truly democratic countries have arms-length federal body that runs federal elections. They provide the mechanisms / training for the election staff, they set the borders for each riding (based on giving each one approximately the same number of voters - not by skin colour or known political say) - and it’s not up to the country’s leader to direct his party to take over the election process.
                                    That’s more along the lines of Russia or Belarus. Trump’s chums.

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                                    #17

                                    @bazcook

                                    and those systems work

                                    the usa's current problems are partly because our voting system is so antiquated. which other countries have vastly improved upon and are thus more resilient to the MAGA-like influences

                                    but one benefit of our ancient crappy system is that it is so byzantine and locally controlled. therefore, harder for the orange turd to manipulate

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                                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                      I've been shushing people who say there won't be free #elections in the #USA anymore

                                      #Cynicism leads to #prematureCapitulation: "if the #vote is corrupt, why vote"

                                      Americans are lazy about voting as it is. Weak whiny "the sky is falling!" statements just because malicious intent exists is enough to make some give up

                                      Besides, elections are controlled by the states

                                      On that note (they won't succeed):

                                      "#Trump urges #Republicans to 'take over' and 'nationalize' voting"

                                      https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-urges-republicans-nationalize-voting/story?id=129793658

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                                      #18

                                      @benroyce And write it in COBOL to run on IBM 360 systems in keeping with the IRS system.

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                                      • regguy@mstdn.socialR regguy@mstdn.social

                                        @benroyce And write it in COBOL to run on IBM 360 systems in keeping with the IRS system.

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                                        #19

                                        @RegGuy 😂

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                                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                          I've been shushing people who say there won't be free #elections in the #USA anymore

                                          #Cynicism leads to #prematureCapitulation: "if the #vote is corrupt, why vote"

                                          Americans are lazy about voting as it is. Weak whiny "the sky is falling!" statements just because malicious intent exists is enough to make some give up

                                          Besides, elections are controlled by the states

                                          On that note (they won't succeed):

                                          "#Trump urges #Republicans to 'take over' and 'nationalize' voting"

                                          https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-urges-republicans-nationalize-voting/story?id=129793658

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                                          #20

                                          @benroyce I keep telling people this is the real reason he keeps saying it. If everyone gives up hope then it doesn't matter if it's true or not.

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