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the alpine LLM debate highlights the importance of labor unions, change my mind

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  • ariadne@social.treehouse.systemsA ariadne@social.treehouse.systems

    like please see the long tail for what it is, if we get hooked on commercial LLMs, then the oligarchs which own the commercial LLMs have effective control over the project, because they can cut off the supply if we piss them off.

    for fucks sake, this isn't hard.

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    #4

    @ariadne good job they don't quickly agglomerate into gigantic turdpiles that no human can maintain

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    • ariadne@social.treehouse.systemsA ariadne@social.treehouse.systems

      like please see the long tail for what it is, if we get hooked on commercial LLMs, then the oligarchs which own the commercial LLMs have effective control over the project, because they can cut off the supply if we piss them off.

      for fucks sake, this isn't hard.

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      @ariadne selfhost?

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      • bioinformatician_next_door@kafeneio.socialB bioinformatician_next_door@kafeneio.social

        @ariadne selfhost?

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        @bioinformatician_next_door the self-hosted models are not usable for 'vibe coding' yet.

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        • ariadne@social.treehouse.systemsA ariadne@social.treehouse.systems

          @bioinformatician_next_door the self-hosted models are not usable for 'vibe coding' yet.

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          @ariadne not complete vibe coding but assistance,
          even better the community can work on making better models, + even better the community can create a network that works only for themselves, and who have the gear serve the others who do not have the space to put the gear.

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          • bioinformatician_next_door@kafeneio.socialB bioinformatician_next_door@kafeneio.social

            @ariadne not complete vibe coding but assistance,
            even better the community can work on making better models, + even better the community can create a network that works only for themselves, and who have the gear serve the others who do not have the space to put the gear.

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            #8

            @bioinformatician_next_door sure and i support all of that. i always support taking back the power.

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            • ariadne@social.treehouse.systemsA ariadne@social.treehouse.systems

              like please see the long tail for what it is, if we get hooked on commercial LLMs, then the oligarchs which own the commercial LLMs have effective control over the project, because they can cut off the supply if we piss them off.

              for fucks sake, this isn't hard.

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              @ariadne maybe handing over the entire software engineering industry to ai companies on a silver platter is a bad idea...

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              • ariadne@social.treehouse.systemsA ariadne@social.treehouse.systems

                like please see the long tail for what it is, if we get hooked on commercial LLMs, then the oligarchs which own the commercial LLMs have effective control over the project, because they can cut off the supply if we piss them off.

                for fucks sake, this isn't hard.

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                #10

                @ariadne i legit dont understand seeing ppl fall for the exact same silicon valley playbook over and over again 😭

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                • ariadne@social.treehouse.systemsA ariadne@social.treehouse.systems

                  @bioinformatician_next_door sure and i support all of that. i always support taking back the power.

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                  @ariadne so is it better to start just another Linux distribution, or help the existing maintainers to have the opportunity to "vibe code" with better , decentralized models?

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                  • starchturrets@mastodon.socialS starchturrets@mastodon.social

                    @ariadne maybe handing over the entire software engineering industry to ai companies on a silver platter is a bad idea...

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                    @starchturrets yes, exactly! i talk to other business owners who have gone all-in, and i am just like... what happens when it all goes to shit?

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                    • bioinformatician_next_door@kafeneio.socialB bioinformatician_next_door@kafeneio.social

                      @ariadne so is it better to start just another Linux distribution, or help the existing maintainers to have the opportunity to "vibe code" with better , decentralized models?

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                      @bioinformatician_next_door i mean, i am still there, trying to be a voice of reason aren't i?

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                      • ariadne@social.treehouse.systemsA ariadne@social.treehouse.systems

                        @bioinformatician_next_door i mean, i am still there, trying to be a voice of reason aren't i?

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                        @ariadne yeap, so support them even more by teaching how to use properly llms 😛 without "providers"

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                        • bioinformatician_next_door@kafeneio.socialB bioinformatician_next_door@kafeneio.social

                          @ariadne yeap, so support them even more by teaching how to use properly llms 😛 without "providers"

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                          @bioinformatician_next_door i don't have the time

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