It never ceases to amaze me how today's techbros vision of the future they want defaults to fully automated leopard-face-chomping neo-feudalism rather than fully automated luxury gay space communism

[holliek72@mastodonapp.uk]

@cstross The face-eating leopards are *never* going to eat *their* faces! All those dystopian novels have got it totally wrong!

[tyberiusprime@corteximplant.com]

@cstross must be a protestant offshoot of Sir Pterrys Yen Buddhists. "It is morally wrong for other people to enjoy their lives"

[bjn@mstdn.social]

@cstross Some people are arseholes. The chimpanzee hindbrain dominance thing rather than the bonobo hippy free love thing.

[licho@kolektiva.social]

@cstross 80s cyberpunk took it from reality. The authors noticed the sentiment and those visions and projected them to the logical conclusion. Techbros are the architects of cyberpunk they tried to warn us about. Cybernetics were about control. Stafford Beer's visions of invisibly controlling the society sound dystopian now, they were the blueprint for what we understand as dystopia today.

[cdamian@rls.social]

@cstross
You don't get filthy rich by not being filthy.

[genehack@dementedandsadbut.social]

@cstross they all have the disease of not being able to appreciate something unless they know somebody else isn’t.

Feels like yet another thing that traces back to Thatcher and Reagan.

[jwz@mastodon.social]

@cstross They did not do the reading

[grmon@chaos.social]

@cstross Hooray for fully automated gay space communism.

[schrotthaufen@mastodon.social]

@HollieK72 @cstross Techbros think they are the leopards.

[normjess@tech.lgbt]

@cstross they want a cyberpunk dystopia like in the movies, or consider it an inevitability

might be a better sell if you go with Yanis Varoufakis name for the alternative; Digital Libertarian Communism

these people are very triggered by words like Gay

the working class are probably burned out on Automated too, until they see any checks from robot tax or whatever

[kerravonsen@mastodon.au]

@cdamian @cstross EXACTLY.
You only get filthy rich if you love money more than people, and, well, that's a pretty good measurement of Evilness.

[highlandlawyer@mastodon.social]

@grmon @cstross

[nicovel0@mastodon.social]

@cstross Musk thinks he cosplays the Federation, when in fact he’s a conservative Ferengi

[cadbury_moose@wandering.shop]

@grmon @cstross

Indeed. I miss Iain.

3:O((>

...and all the Culture books are in boxes ...somewhere. 3:O(((>

[twoclownseating@beige.party]

@cstross

Less face eating, more ass eating.

[cora@hachyderm.io]

@cstross it may be the cynic in me, and it may be influenced by my recent three-week binge of all of Game of Thrones, it having worked in SV for a quarter of a century my rear view impression is that it’s always been feudalistic at the top.

SV has low-key selected for openness to self-abasement as a career path for decades, and it’s hard not to look at photos of the most elite mingling with politicos over the past few years and not see a hierarchy of courtiers finally relieved of the constraints of performative conscience.

[poetaster@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@cstross yeah, my antidote currently, Ian M. Banks Culture Series....

[freediverx@mastodon.social]

@bjn @cstross
And those are precisely the people who excel in a capitalist society. It’s literally the opposite of meritocracy.

[gbargoud@masto.nyc]

@cstross

I think it's a lot of selection bias. Those who don't want neo feudalism are also those who retired once they hit a reasonable financial goal and everyone left at the top is a weird money hoarder

[rycochet@furs.social]

@cstross The only parts of Star Trek they like are the parts where everything has gone wrong and people shoot at oneanother, things that happen as the last resort.