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Students who don’t use AI are ahead on every measure

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  • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

    i had several "correlation is not causation" wankers on the youtube and mf did i fucking say it was

    also, rich students tend to do better than poor ones, amazing

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    @davidgerard why do you even give in to them. Ignore them. You know you do your research and some stupid Youtube comments are unlikely to give you any constructive criticism worth listening to.

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    • feliks@chaos.socialF feliks@chaos.social

      @Muddobbers @davidgerard it is important to put in the work. using AI can help you with that. if you try to use it to not having to put in the work it will fail you as a tool

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      @feliks @Muddobbers @davidgerard or you could just do the work without frying the planet ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

        Students who don’t use AI are ahead on every measure

        ‘equivalent to being around one year of schooling ahead of their peers’

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcRY6M5_mvo&list=UU9rJrMVgcXTfa8xuMnbhAEA - video
        https://pivottoai.libsyn.com/20260908-students-who-dont-use-ai-are-ahead-on-every-measure - podcast

        time: 4 min 14 sec

        https://pivot-to-ai.com/2026/09/08/students-who-dont-use-ai-are-ahead-on-every-measure/ - blog post

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        @davidgerard https://veganism.social/@Wilson6923/117218458283233150

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        • muddobbers@infosec.exchangeM muddobbers@infosec.exchange

          @davidgerard

          Some MIT professor was like "go ahead, use AI, it'll help you learn computer science and this class!" but he described it as building blocks on building blocks. Unfortunately, if you use the Easy Button, you don't learn anything, so by the time the next block came by you were already one block behind knowledge-wise. It felt like the professor was encouraging his students to fail and be left behind, gleefully.

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          @Muddobbers @davidgerard based, make students get filtered
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          • albi@furry.engineerA albi@furry.engineer

            @davidgerard why do you even give in to them. Ignore them. You know you do your research and some stupid Youtube comments are unlikely to give you any constructive criticism worth listening to.

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            @Albi oh there's a much better button than merely ignore, it's 🚫

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            • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

              @Albi oh there's a much better button than merely ignore, it's 🚫

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              @davidgerard yeaa, but that's effort and I don't think they are worth even that much.

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              • akamran@indieweb.socialA akamran@indieweb.social

                @feliks @Muddobbers @davidgerard or you could just do the work without frying the planet ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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                @akamran @Muddobbers @davidgerard i see your point. i believe it is important to split ressource requirements and bad policies. at industrial scale this could all be less of a problem if energy was created more sustainably. on a personal scale it is relatively small as it consumes less power than a gaming PC (given normal usage patterns)

                it is important where data centers are built and how they are powered and cooled. i believe it is important to regulate towards public benefit

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                • albi@furry.engineerA albi@furry.engineer

                  @davidgerard yeaa, but that's effort and I don't think they are worth even that much.

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                  @Albi oh i enjoy keeping a piss free loungeroom, it turns out to attract *good* comments too

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                  • feliks@chaos.socialF feliks@chaos.social

                    @zzt @davidgerard lol david gerard blocked me for this post. doesn't seem like he is interested in a meaningful discussion but rather prefers to delude himself... how ironic

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                    @feliks @zzt @davidgerard You may not be correct in your assumption that you are providing meaningful discussion.

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                    • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                      @feliks @davidgerard why didn’t you post the entire paragraph

                      > How AI use relates to student performance is complex, varying with how students use it and what for. PISA data show that students who use AI for specific schoolwork tasks, such as summarising texts, drafting or conducting research, attain lower scores in science than students who do not use AI. In these scenarios, students who do not use AI outperform those who do, on average, by around 20 points – equivalent to being around one year of schooling ahead of their peers. However, weekly users of AI for general purposes have similar performance outcomes to non-users. Students who regularly use AI for general purposes, and have learning opportunities at school to develop AI literacy skills, tend to have slightly higher scores in science. However, these opportunities are more common among socio-economically advantaged students, risking a growing AI divide.

                      this says that rich students do better

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                      @zzt @feliks @davidgerard
                      This REALLY reminds me of seeing a video essay about alcohol. It was looking closely at the widespread argument that moderate, or careful, drinking is healthier than sober living.

                      While this was actually what lots of studies were saying, it turned out that huge part of things being this way is moderate drinkers often being wealthy people. Those with money can afford to drink socially daily, and they can afford good healthcare, healthy living, quality everything. At the same time poor people, even if trying to live healthy, cannot afford many of these things.

                      The way traditional studies work is they show correlation between two things. Very often viewed out of context, information may look useless, or be used for propaganda. Many things only make sense when viewed as part of more complex systems.

                      #ClassInequality #Misleading #Sober #Alcohol #Drinking #Propaganda #Health

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                      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                        Students who don’t use AI are ahead on every measure

                        ‘equivalent to being around one year of schooling ahead of their peers’

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcRY6M5_mvo&list=UU9rJrMVgcXTfa8xuMnbhAEA - video
                        https://pivottoai.libsyn.com/20260908-students-who-dont-use-ai-are-ahead-on-every-measure - podcast

                        time: 4 min 14 sec

                        https://pivot-to-ai.com/2026/09/08/students-who-dont-use-ai-are-ahead-on-every-measure/ - blog post

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                        @davidgerard If $10,000 is deposited your cash app account or PayPal unexpectedly , what will you use it for to be honest ?
                        :A car
                        :B Bills
                        :c school
                        :d families
                        :e vacation
                        :l donation
                        :g food stuff
                        :h business

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