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  • jon@gruene.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
    jon@gruene.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    Just had to deal with a bunch of wind turbine conspiracy theories at #StateOfEU, this polite political event I’m at in Brussels. Damn we‘re fucked. Fucked. Our notional political elite is believing in utter complete garbage.

    jon@gruene.socialJ taschenorakel@mastodon.greenT npars01@mstdn.socialN thisislieven@c.imT glynmoody@mastodon.socialG 21 Replies Last reply
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    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

      Just had to deal with a bunch of wind turbine conspiracy theories at #StateOfEU, this polite political event I’m at in Brussels. Damn we‘re fucked. Fucked. Our notional political elite is believing in utter complete garbage.

      jon@gruene.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
      jon@gruene.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      Turbines kill birds. They don’t you jerk. Your cat is more a danger to birds. #StateOfEU

      Edit: for clarification - the number isn’t zero. But it’s not a significant issue.

      jt_rebelo@ciberlandia.ptJ jon@gruene.socialJ funbaker@chaos.socialF ilmari@social.treehouse.systemsI rollotreadway@beige.partyR 12 Replies Last reply
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      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

        Turbines kill birds. They don’t you jerk. Your cat is more a danger to birds. #StateOfEU

        Edit: for clarification - the number isn’t zero. But it’s not a significant issue.

        jt_rebelo@ciberlandia.ptJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @jon and the jerk lets the cat roam free, while wind turbines are stationary.

        adipoeserpursch@troet.cafeA derek_diy@mastodon.ieD 2 Replies Last reply
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        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

          Just had to deal with a bunch of wind turbine conspiracy theories at #StateOfEU, this polite political event I’m at in Brussels. Damn we‘re fucked. Fucked. Our notional political elite is believing in utter complete garbage.

          taschenorakel@mastodon.greenT This user is from outside of this forum
          taschenorakel@mastodon.greenT This user is from outside of this forum
          taschenorakel@mastodon.green
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          #4

          @jon They believe in fairy tails like Trickle Down and Austerity for... how many decades? So what's surprising about them picking up yet another fairy tale?

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          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

            Turbines kill birds. They don’t you jerk. Your cat is more a danger to birds. #StateOfEU

            Edit: for clarification - the number isn’t zero. But it’s not a significant issue.

            jon@gruene.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            We know beyond any doubt that wind as part of the renewable energy mix is vital. It’s cheaper than nuclear. And sure, turbines make some noise - so don’t build them next to homes. Which you don’t anyway. #StateOfEU

            jon@gruene.socialJ jt_rebelo@ciberlandia.ptJ 2 Replies Last reply
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            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

              Turbines kill birds. They don’t you jerk. Your cat is more a danger to birds. #StateOfEU

              Edit: for clarification - the number isn’t zero. But it’s not a significant issue.

              funbaker@chaos.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @jon what kind of turbines? Airplane???

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              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                We know beyond any doubt that wind as part of the renewable energy mix is vital. It’s cheaper than nuclear. And sure, turbines make some noise - so don’t build them next to homes. Which you don’t anyway. #StateOfEU

                jon@gruene.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                Also making the case for new nuclear in France right now after the headaches nuclear had with cooling water this summer. WHAT? #StateOfEU

                jon@gruene.socialJ reinald@nrw.socialR mrtnsnp@mastodon.socialM henryk@chaos.socialH amy@ice.ch3.stA 6 Replies Last reply
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                • funbaker@chaos.socialF funbaker@chaos.social

                  @jon what kind of turbines? Airplane???

                  jon@gruene.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @funbaker see earlier posts. Wind turbines.

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                  • jt_rebelo@ciberlandia.ptJ jt_rebelo@ciberlandia.pt

                    @jon and the jerk lets the cat roam free, while wind turbines are stationary.

                    adipoeserpursch@troet.cafeA This user is from outside of this forum
                    adipoeserpursch@troet.cafeA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @jt_rebelo 😜😂 @jon

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                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                      Also making the case for new nuclear in France right now after the headaches nuclear had with cooling water this summer. WHAT? #StateOfEU

                      jon@gruene.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      “And those turbines you see in Brandenburg approaching Berlin are so UGLY!” he went on. Climate change, that’s ugly. #StateOfEU

                      kevinrns@mstdn.socialK jon@gruene.socialJ ba_eh@norden.socialB leorjorge@mastodon.socialL matzipan@hachyderm.ioM 7 Replies Last reply
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                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                        Turbines kill birds. They don’t you jerk. Your cat is more a danger to birds. #StateOfEU

                        Edit: for clarification - the number isn’t zero. But it’s not a significant issue.

                        ilmari@social.treehouse.systemsI This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        @jon and there's an easy, cheap fix that significantly reduces bird strikes: paint one of the blades black

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                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                          @funbaker see earlier posts. Wind turbines.

                          funbaker@chaos.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #12

                          @jon sorry, that was meant to be sarcastic...

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                          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                            Also making the case for new nuclear in France right now after the headaches nuclear had with cooling water this summer. WHAT? #StateOfEU

                            reinald@nrw.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #13

                            @jon well Windturbines kill some birds, as a matter of fact. But it is a magnitude lower than car, glass windows/facades or cats.

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                            • reinald@nrw.socialR reinald@nrw.social

                              @jon well Windturbines kill some birds, as a matter of fact. But it is a magnitude lower than car, glass windows/facades or cats.

                              jon@gruene.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #14

                              @Reinald Right. That was my point. I didn’t say it’s zero!

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                              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                We know beyond any doubt that wind as part of the renewable energy mix is vital. It’s cheaper than nuclear. And sure, turbines make some noise - so don’t build them next to homes. Which you don’t anyway. #StateOfEU

                                jt_rebelo@ciberlandia.ptJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #15

                                @jon but what about space for new housing development? The rich don't want to buy luxury homes in the middle of the nature and have a wind turbine near them! /s

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                                • jt_rebelo@ciberlandia.ptJ jt_rebelo@ciberlandia.pt

                                  @jon but what about space for new housing development? The rich don't want to buy luxury homes in the middle of the nature and have a wind turbine near them! /s

                                  jon@gruene.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #16

                                  @jt_rebelo they’re not buying homes in Bourgogne or the plains of Brandenburg!

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                                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                    @Reinald Right. That was my point. I didn’t say it’s zero!

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                                    #17

                                    @jon I read "they don't, you jerk" as "turbines kill no birds" :-).

                                    And climate change will kill way more. Same argument for "woods instead of windturbines"... Climate change will kill way more woods. Even wildfires these days kill more wood than building turbines...

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                                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                      @jt_rebelo they’re not buying homes in Bourgogne or the plains of Brandenburg!

                                      jt_rebelo@ciberlandia.ptJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #18

                                      @jon yet (not even kidding, they are always looking for more and more undeveloped space, in my country they'd set fire to protected areas on a certain municipality, until the then president and municipal assembly ruled that wherever it burned it would be impossible to build for 50 years; no more fires happened since then, and it is a green area in a country rife with forest fires, it's just a coincidence, I'm sure).

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                                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                        Also making the case for new nuclear in France right now after the headaches nuclear had with cooling water this summer. WHAT? #StateOfEU

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                                        #19

                                        @jon I think France stopped funding research on SMRs last year, AFAIR?

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                                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                          “And those turbines you see in Brandenburg approaching Berlin are so UGLY!” he went on. Climate change, that’s ugly. #StateOfEU

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                                          #20

                                          @jon

                                          Talk like that should be SHUT DOWN like racism.

                                          I'm serious, I haven't heard it for so long, if I heard it now I would react as if they were promoting slavery and race war.

                                          #shutDown #climate

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