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  3. Finally sitting down to read "How AI Destroys Institutions" and the abstract is a banger.

Finally sitting down to read "How AI Destroys Institutions" and the abstract is a banger.

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    Finally sitting down to read "How AI Destroys Institutions" and the abstract is a banger.

    https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5870623

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      Finally sitting down to read "How AI Destroys Institutions" and the abstract is a banger.

      https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5870623

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      @biptoot Important research - but sadly the value of it will be lost if We™️ don't also get better at describing, with receipts, why destroying the things They™️ are destroying is bad for everyone.

      I have entire books which lay out these mechanisms & they can be politically undone with one question: "And what's so bad about that?".

      We have to make the people who think civilization is a bad thing work hard for their position, rather than just coast on that question like they do now.

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        @biptoot Important research - but sadly the value of it will be lost if We™️ don't also get better at describing, with receipts, why destroying the things They™️ are destroying is bad for everyone.

        I have entire books which lay out these mechanisms & they can be politically undone with one question: "And what's so bad about that?".

        We have to make the people who think civilization is a bad thing work hard for their position, rather than just coast on that question like they do now.

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        @jwcph This paper also introduced me to "Bullshit Asymmetry" - the amount of energy required to refute bullshit is orders of magnitude greater than that to create it.

        Your point is spot on. I'm definitely up for the challenge of challenging the "what's so bad about that?" crowd

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          @jwcph This paper also introduced me to "Bullshit Asymmetry" - the amount of energy required to refute bullshit is orders of magnitude greater than that to create it.

          Your point is spot on. I'm definitely up for the challenge of challenging the "what's so bad about that?" crowd

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          @biptoot you're right about bullshit asymmetry, but on the other hand there is SO MUCH EVIDENCE of how & why it's bad - some of is even simple, but we're behind because almost nobody, including the political actors who should have, have said much about it for generations. We have our work cut out for us & we could start by not making it harder by letting them™️ define the conversation.

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            @biptoot you're right about bullshit asymmetry, but on the other hand there is SO MUCH EVIDENCE of how & why it's bad - some of is even simple, but we're behind because almost nobody, including the political actors who should have, have said much about it for generations. We have our work cut out for us & we could start by not making it harder by letting them™️ define the conversation.

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            @jwcph "EVIDENCE of how & why it's bad"

            To which "it" do you refer: AI, civic /community collapse, policy/politics, the bullshit industry in general, or something else?

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              @jwcph "EVIDENCE of how & why it's bad"

              To which "it" do you refer: AI, civic /community collapse, policy/politics, the bullshit industry in general, or something else?

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              @biptoot Yeah, character limit - sometimes you have to be terse... 😝 Here I am specifically referring to civic collapse (which is not to say that those other things are great & fine).

              Remember how Thatcher said "There is no such thing as society"? I am talking about everything that makes that statement wrong.

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