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Companies should be required by law to completely open devices when they end support for them

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  • ingalovinde@embracing.spaceI ingalovinde@embracing.space

    @thomasfuchs
    > “The challenge is that these devices were built for a different era and are not equipped to run newer, more data-hungry services and features,” he told the BBC, adding that “ageing hardware” could also pose problems.

    It's a fucking book reader, why would it need any "newer, more data-hungry services and features"

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    #55

    @thomasfuchs imagine a fridge you bought in 2007 stops accepting any new food you put in it. You can only eat what's already there, but you cannot put anything new inside anymore. Its door literally switches to one-way mode.

    That's because the fridge manufacturer ended support for your fridge, because it was built for a different era and is not equipped to run newer, more data-hungry services and features; and ageing hardware could also pose problems.

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    • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

      Companies should be required by law to completely open devices when they end support for them

      If they don’t, the penalty should be that the CEO has to eat the bricked devices

      https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/apr/09/amazon-upsets-book-lovers-by-ending-support-for-old-kindles

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      #56

      @thomasfuchs this is what parents are *supposed* to be for; there's exclusivity protection for a reasonable period in exchange for enough information about the patented subject to reproduce and improve it after that period ends.
      That it doesn't work that way in reality these days is a large part of why the parent system is so broken.

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      • brad@1040ste.netB brad@1040ste.net

        @magnetichuman @thomasfuchs We'll let 'em use tomato sauce, we aren't monsters 😄

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        #57

        @brad I would even let them blend it first.

        @magnetichuman @thomasfuchs

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        • ingalovinde@embracing.spaceI ingalovinde@embracing.space

          @thomasfuchs
          > “The challenge is that these devices were built for a different era and are not equipped to run newer, more data-hungry services and features,” he told the BBC, adding that “ageing hardware” could also pose problems.

          It's a fucking book reader, why would it need any "newer, more data-hungry services and features"

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          drchaos@sauropods.win
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          #58

          @IngaLovinde @thomasfuchs Yes. I wanted to quote exactly that.
          It's a bloody ebook reader. My ancient Kobo that I never activated nor connected to the net works. It helps that I avoid DRM media like the plague it is. Or read dead tree books. They are nicer anyway.
          Still: ebooks are really light weight and do not take up a lot of space, nor do they come with computing heavy features. So the reasoning is just... BS

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          • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

            Companies should be required by law to completely open devices when they end support for them

            If they don’t, the penalty should be that the CEO has to eat the bricked devices

            https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/apr/09/amazon-upsets-book-lovers-by-ending-support-for-old-kindles

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            #59

            @thomasfuchs to eat bricks

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            • ag100pct@infosec.exchangeA ag100pct@infosec.exchange

              @thomasfuchs
              The CEO should be forced to take each device as a suppository.

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              thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io
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              #60

              @AG100pct either end is acceptable

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              • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                Companies should be required by law to completely open devices when they end support for them

                If they don’t, the penalty should be that the CEO has to eat the bricked devices

                https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/apr/09/amazon-upsets-book-lovers-by-ending-support-for-old-kindles

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                #61
                @thomasfuchs Install your open source like model and stop complaining about it please.
                Why do you use that trash????
                Each complaint post bout AI I see, is I see you as a simp as well simply set.
                You can install yours and run it privately > figure out how as I'm tired to explain it.
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                • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                  Companies should be required by law to completely open devices when they end support for them

                  If they don’t, the penalty should be that the CEO has to eat the bricked devices

                  https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/apr/09/amazon-upsets-book-lovers-by-ending-support-for-old-kindles

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                  #62

                  @thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                  And it it's a device (or even just software) that requires a centralized service to function, they should have to publish the server code and turn it over to a community custodian/maintainer as well as create easy-to-install packages of the server (e.g., Docker containers with necessary Dockerfiles).

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                  • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                    Companies should be required by law to completely open devices when they end support for them

                    If they don’t, the penalty should be that the CEO has to eat the bricked devices

                    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/apr/09/amazon-upsets-book-lovers-by-ending-support-for-old-kindles

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                    #63

                    @thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                    This sucks. My 2010 Kindle still works perfectly fine! I should be able to keep using it if I want to.

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                    • D drchaos@sauropods.win

                      @IngaLovinde @thomasfuchs Yes. I wanted to quote exactly that.
                      It's a bloody ebook reader. My ancient Kobo that I never activated nor connected to the net works. It helps that I avoid DRM media like the plague it is. Or read dead tree books. They are nicer anyway.
                      Still: ebooks are really light weight and do not take up a lot of space, nor do they come with computing heavy features. So the reasoning is just... BS

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                      #64

                      @drchaos @thomasfuchs I'm using e-ink book readers since Sony PRS-500 which in 2006 IIRC was the second commercial e-ink reader ever (the first one being some other Sony device that was only available on Japanese market).
                      It never occurred to me that they need to have "services" or "features". Although having dictionary support in my current Kobo Aura H2O (released in 2014) is nice.

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                      • ingalovinde@embracing.spaceI ingalovinde@embracing.space

                        @drchaos @thomasfuchs I'm using e-ink book readers since Sony PRS-500 which in 2006 IIRC was the second commercial e-ink reader ever (the first one being some other Sony device that was only available on Japanese market).
                        It never occurred to me that they need to have "services" or "features". Although having dictionary support in my current Kobo Aura H2O (released in 2014) is nice.

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                        #65

                        @IngaLovinde @drchaos Kindles have dictionaries built-in and have Wikipedia lookup which is really helpful; but the killer feature for e-readers really is notes and highlights (and syncing them around etc.).

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                        • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                          Companies should be required by law to completely open devices when they end support for them

                          If they don’t, the penalty should be that the CEO has to eat the bricked devices

                          https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/apr/09/amazon-upsets-book-lovers-by-ending-support-for-old-kindles

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                          #66
                          @thomasfuchs
                          “The challenge is that these devices were built for a different era and are not equipped to run newer, more data-hungry services and features,”

                          pretty sure they're supposed to run books
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                          • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                            Companies should be required by law to completely open devices when they end support for them

                            If they don’t, the penalty should be that the CEO has to eat the bricked devices

                            https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/apr/09/amazon-upsets-book-lovers-by-ending-support-for-old-kindles

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                            #67

                            @thomasfuchs by the ass ><

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                            • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                              Companies should be required by law to completely open devices when they end support for them

                              If they don’t, the penalty should be that the CEO has to eat the bricked devices

                              https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/apr/09/amazon-upsets-book-lovers-by-ending-support-for-old-kindles

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                              endrift@social.treehouse.systems
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                              #68

                              @thomasfuchs @foone bonus: fewer toxic components

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                              • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                                Companies should be required by law to completely open devices when they end support for them

                                If they don’t, the penalty should be that the CEO has to eat the bricked devices

                                https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/apr/09/amazon-upsets-book-lovers-by-ending-support-for-old-kindles

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                                #69

                                @thomasfuchs how about we bring back stoning? Owners of the bricked devices get to play a game of one sided dodge ball with the CEO.

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