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Open Source hot take: A software project is allowed to be *done*.

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  • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

    @oraculix I mean many of the rust rewrites are also about stripping restrictive licenses. Taking GPLed code and rewriting/generating it as BSD licensed

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    #100

    @tante @oraculix That's quite nasty and one more reason to stay away from those rewrites.

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    • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

      Open Source hot take: A software project is allowed to be *done*. Not everything needs to add features or rewrite things. You can just be happy with functionality and focus on just maintainance. "Maintenance mode" is not always bad but can just show a mature product.

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      #101

      @tante Totally, though I think you need to take care about what you model with your software. If you model the world, it will change and you'll have to keep us.

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      • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

        Open Source hot take: A software project is allowed to be *done*. Not everything needs to add features or rewrite things. You can just be happy with functionality and focus on just maintainance. "Maintenance mode" is not always bad but can just show a mature product.

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        #102

        @tante

        true. it still functions as expected. No patches needed.

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        • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

          Open Source hot take: A software project is allowed to be *done*. Not everything needs to add features or rewrite things. You can just be happy with functionality and focus on just maintainance. "Maintenance mode" is not always bad but can just show a mature product.

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          #103

          @tante@tldr.nettime.org Linux games seem to understand this very well. A few months ago I installed Extreme Tux Racer, a game I fondly remember playing in my childhood like 15 years ago. It is exactly the same still, either hasn't been updated or only just enough to keep it working. Either way it is lovely :3

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            #104

            @strypey ooooh. thanks for the heads up.

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              #105

              @strypey @hbons @tante Setting boundaries can help avoid bloat.

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              • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                Open Source hot take: A software project is allowed to be *done*. Not everything needs to add features or rewrite things. You can just be happy with functionality and focus on just maintainance. "Maintenance mode" is not always bad but can just show a mature product.

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                #106

                @tante True of non-OSS applications, too. I think one reason MS is shoving AI into MS Office is their product is mature software and *there are no new features to add to it*.

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                • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                  Open Source hot take: A software project is allowed to be *done*. Not everything needs to add features or rewrite things. You can just be happy with functionality and focus on just maintainance. "Maintenance mode" is not always bad but can just show a mature product.

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                  #107

                  @tante Yes, and when it comes to this, and there's something you got an idea for, but don't have the spoons to implement, you can just write a blog article about it and hope and pray someone else feels like implementing it, in exchange for a large sum of money. Or you can just hope you're not one of those people who hates unresolved issues.

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                  • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                    Open Source hot take: A software project is allowed to be *done*. Not everything needs to add features or rewrite things. You can just be happy with functionality and focus on just maintainance. "Maintenance mode" is not always bad but can just show a mature product.

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                    #108

                    @tante yes! This!

                    I had people question a project because it had no release for six months (despite even commit activity)…

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                    • hllizi@hespere.deH hllizi@hespere.de

                      @leonid
                      OK, fair point
                      @tante

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                      #109

                      @tante @hllizi @leonid nah, the distro patches the dependencies, done.

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                      • mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.orgM mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org

                        @tante @hllizi @leonid nah, the distro patches the dependencies, done.

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                        #110

                        @mirabilos
                        That works for dynamic dependencies but not for static ones, and only until the distro stops maintenance for the last compatible version, right?
                        @tante @leonid

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                        • hllizi@hespere.deH hllizi@hespere.de

                          @mirabilos
                          That works for dynamic dependencies but not for static ones, and only until the distro stops maintenance for the last compatible version, right?
                          @tante @leonid

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                          #111

                          @hllizi @leonid @tante why would you as upstream care if the distro links statically or dynamically?

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                          • mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.orgM mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org

                            @hllizi @leonid @tante why would you as upstream care if the distro links statically or dynamically?

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                            #112

                            @leonid @tante @hllizi and it does work if it also recompiles the program, static distros exist

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                            • mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.orgM mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org

                              @leonid @tante @hllizi and it does work if it also recompiles the program, static distros exist

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                              #113

                              @mirabilos
                              Yeah, right, I take this part back, I got confused (because of course you can also compile again against the patched dependency...). But the second part still stands, it only works as long as the distro provides patches for a compatible version.
                              @leonid @tante

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                              • hllizi@hespere.deH hllizi@hespere.de

                                @mirabilos
                                Yeah, right, I take this part back, I got confused (because of course you can also compile again against the patched dependency...). But the second part still stands, it only works as long as the distro provides patches for a compatible version.
                                @leonid @tante

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                                #114

                                @leonid @hllizi @tante sure, but if that also works…?

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                                • mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.orgM mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org

                                  @leonid @hllizi @tante sure, but if that also works…?

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                                  #115

                                  @mirabilos
                                  Providing patches, you mean?
                                  @leonid @tante

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                                  • hllizi@hespere.deH hllizi@hespere.de

                                    @mirabilos
                                    Providing patches, you mean?
                                    @leonid @tante

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                                    #116

                                    @leonid @tante @hllizi the dependency

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                                    • mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.orgM mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org

                                      @leonid @tante @hllizi the dependency

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                                      #117

                                      @mirabilos
                                      My assumption here was that the last compatible version has fallen out of maintenance everywhere, so any version that patches a bug cannot work anymore by assumption. Or am I missing something again?
                                      @leonid @tante

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                                      • hllizi@hespere.deH hllizi@hespere.de

                                        @mirabilos
                                        My assumption here was that the last compatible version has fallen out of maintenance everywhere, so any version that patches a bug cannot work anymore by assumption. Or am I missing something again?
                                        @leonid @tante

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                                        #118

                                        @tante @hllizi @leonid where there is a will, there is a way

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                                        • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                                          Open Source hot take: A software project is allowed to be *done*. Not everything needs to add features or rewrite things. You can just be happy with functionality and focus on just maintainance. "Maintenance mode" is not always bad but can just show a mature product.

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                                          #119

                                          @tante I point out that this is clearly also true of physical creations, arts and crafts and movies and whatever: if the creator lingers on the scene, forever changing and tweaking and updating, the results are almost always unhappy. Nobody is happy that the origin Star Wars films got turned into some kind of ongoing project of Lucas's. But turning everything into a construction site keeps the most money flowing.

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