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Engaging with Harry Potter books, movies, theme parks, etc and announcing it to social media is a bizarre thing to do in 2026.

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  • cordiallychloe@tech.lgbtC cordiallychloe@tech.lgbt

    @nudlan @BenRiceM

    Please don't say "separate the art from the artist" if you don't know its correct usage.

    It's a concept in art studies and is almost exclusively used for artists who are dead and no longer harming people with their beliefs and money.

    JK Rowling has been international news for years now for the harm she's doing to both trans people and women worldwide. If you're not aware of it, you're not paying attention, and at some point that's your own fault.

    I will gladly educate people on it as these conversations occur. But trans people are fucking exhausted. And your comment is just making excuses for that.

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    #30

    @CordiallyChloe @BenRiceM Mind that I am working within the 500 character limit using my second language so I re-iterate what I said in my first post - I do not condone hate, abuse or people that operate within those things in any sense of the word.

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    • nudlan@mastodon.socialN nudlan@mastodon.social

      @CordiallyChloe @BenRiceM Mind that I am working within the 500 character limit using my second language so I re-iterate what I said in my first post - I do not condone hate, abuse or people that operate within those things in any sense of the word.

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      #31

      @nudlan @BenRiceM

      You condone hate by making excuses and giving money to people who are stripping away our rights, freedom, and safety while actively and vocally harassing and doxxing us online.

      You are part of the problem and saying "I don't condone it" doesn't mean you actually don't condone it.

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      • cordiallychloe@tech.lgbtC cordiallychloe@tech.lgbt

        @nudlan @BenRiceM

        Oh come the fuck on. Don't pull the whole "mmmm we live in a society" meme bullshit. Grow up.

        There's a huge fucking difference between your example and what we're talking about, and you should be smart enough to know it. You don't get to "whataboutism" this conversation.

        Either take responsibility for your shitty choices or move the fuck on. In the meantime, don't expect trans people to be nice to you about it.

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        #32

        @CordiallyChloe @BenRiceM I'm not sure what 'we live in a society' fully means.

        People should absolutely take responsibility for their bad choices but I think expecting everyone to know the biases of the creators of anything, while maybe a fair curiousity, should not be an expectation imposed on absolutely everyone.

        These are my personal opinions though & I completely understand yours as well.

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        • nudlan@mastodon.socialN nudlan@mastodon.social

          @CordiallyChloe @BenRiceM I'm not sure what 'we live in a society' fully means.

          People should absolutely take responsibility for their bad choices but I think expecting everyone to know the biases of the creators of anything, while maybe a fair curiousity, should not be an expectation imposed on absolutely everyone.

          These are my personal opinions though & I completely understand yours as well.

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          #33

          @nudlan @BenRiceM

          Don't downplay what I'm saying as "opinions."

          JK Rowling wants me, and everyone like me, dead. That is not an opinion. It's a fact.

          She laughs when trans people kill themselves.

          She gives money to politicians and lawyers who want us banned from all parts of society.

          You. Are a part of that by engaging with her work.

          That is not an opinion. So fuck you for calling it one.

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          • vmachiel@mastodon.nlV vmachiel@mastodon.nl

            @BenRiceM it’s not even “work”. It’s the most simple action you can take that says: I don’t support bigots and hateful rethoric.

            But no. “But I like this” takes over and people don’t care. All talk, not even the smallest bit of “walk”

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            #34

            @vmachiel And to the surprise of absolutely no one, there's already a guy 'sea-lioning' all over.
            Which is nice of them, so I can mute and block them, I'm not interested in anyone defending the hateful writer whose name will not be mentioned, or arguing in bad faith using false equivalence fallacies.

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            • cordiallychloe@tech.lgbtC cordiallychloe@tech.lgbt

              @nudlan @BenRiceM

              Don't downplay what I'm saying as "opinions."

              JK Rowling wants me, and everyone like me, dead. That is not an opinion. It's a fact.

              She laughs when trans people kill themselves.

              She gives money to politicians and lawyers who want us banned from all parts of society.

              You. Are a part of that by engaging with her work.

              That is not an opinion. So fuck you for calling it one.

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              #35

              @CordiallyChloe @BenRiceM Well I don't really engage in her work so I wouldn't agree that I am part of the problem.

              By opinions I mean the ones based on the art and author thing - factual, referential statements that happened aside, I think I am only discussing the subjective matter on 'who could someone who enjoys an IP possibly be & what can we attribute to them based on that'.

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              • benricem@mastodon.socialB benricem@mastodon.social

                Engaging with Harry Potter books, movies, theme parks, etc and announcing it to social media is a bizarre thing to do in 2026.

                We have been screaming from the rooftops for almost a decade about the harm this causes to trans people. You have no excuse.

                If I see it, it’s an immediate unfollow.

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                #36

                @BenRiceM

                yes

                and this really annoys me:

                https://mas.to/@afewbugs@social.coop/117070276725917015

                (read the last paragraph in the story; ugh)

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                • jonathanreed@techhub.socialJ jonathanreed@techhub.social

                  @BenRiceM And it’s going to get worse when HBO start their MASSIVE subscriber drive towards the end of the year with the TV series.

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                  #37

                  @jonathanreed @BenRiceM They've been bombarding me with trailers before shows in April. I was afraid it's gonna go like that for the rest of the year, but they dropped it. It will probably return a couple of times before December.

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                  • nudlan@mastodon.socialN nudlan@mastodon.social

                    @CordiallyChloe @BenRiceM Well I don't really engage in her work so I wouldn't agree that I am part of the problem.

                    By opinions I mean the ones based on the art and author thing - factual, referential statements that happened aside, I think I am only discussing the subjective matter on 'who could someone who enjoys an IP possibly be & what can we attribute to them based on that'.

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                    #38

                    @nudlan @BenRiceM

                    Rather than playing semantics with trans people on the internet, you could go help get the message out.

                    Go tell others what JK Rowling is doing and why it's bad to engage with her work. Show that you actually care.

                    Then we don't have to keep going down this rabbit hole.

                    But if you keep just arguing with trans people on the internet about it and downplaying our experiences and telling us we're overreacting, then you're absolutely part of the problem, if not THE problem, in your actions alone.

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                    • cordiallychloe@tech.lgbtC cordiallychloe@tech.lgbt

                      @nudlan @BenRiceM

                      Rather than playing semantics with trans people on the internet, you could go help get the message out.

                      Go tell others what JK Rowling is doing and why it's bad to engage with her work. Show that you actually care.

                      Then we don't have to keep going down this rabbit hole.

                      But if you keep just arguing with trans people on the internet about it and downplaying our experiences and telling us we're overreacting, then you're absolutely part of the problem, if not THE problem, in your actions alone.

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                      #39

                      @CordiallyChloe @BenRiceM I don't think my point was argumentative but I guess I can see it could read that way.
                      By joining Mastodon I am trying to be better to get messages out I truly believe in.
                      I explained that I struggle with this separation thing and I 'do' make people aware of things I find wrong or unfair. I have never got through a HP discussion without making absolutely sure people know that they 'are' lining hateful pockets by engaging.
                      Any time I have I seem to be the only one aware.

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                      • benricem@mastodon.socialB benricem@mastodon.social

                        Engaging with Harry Potter books, movies, theme parks, etc and announcing it to social media is a bizarre thing to do in 2026.

                        We have been screaming from the rooftops for almost a decade about the harm this causes to trans people. You have no excuse.

                        If I see it, it’s an immediate unfollow.

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                        #40

                        @BenRiceM
                        Ten years of 'you have no excuse' framing hasn't changed anyone's mind — it's just made discourse exhausting. HP gave a lot of people a genuinely good childhood. Threatening to unfollow people over a theme park photo isn't activism, it's just moralizing.

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                        • benricem@mastodon.socialB benricem@mastodon.social

                          Engaging with Harry Potter books, movies, theme parks, etc and announcing it to social media is a bizarre thing to do in 2026.

                          We have been screaming from the rooftops for almost a decade about the harm this causes to trans people. You have no excuse.

                          If I see it, it’s an immediate unfollow.

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                          #41

                          @BenRiceM

                          JK posted an upskirt image of a Trans woman on her Shitter account, which is sexual harassment. If that isn't someone's last straw, then they're not worth associating with.

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                          • cordiallychloe@tech.lgbtC cordiallychloe@tech.lgbt

                            @nudlan @BenRiceM

                            Rather than playing semantics with trans people on the internet, you could go help get the message out.

                            Go tell others what JK Rowling is doing and why it's bad to engage with her work. Show that you actually care.

                            Then we don't have to keep going down this rabbit hole.

                            But if you keep just arguing with trans people on the internet about it and downplaying our experiences and telling us we're overreacting, then you're absolutely part of the problem, if not THE problem, in your actions alone.

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                            #42

                            @CordiallyChloe @BenRiceM I guess what I am trying to say is I struggle to say authoritatively "If you like HP you are automatically hateful and are guilty of everything the Author has put out there".
                            Are they guilty of supporting her financially? Yes.
                            Ignorant for not knowing? Sure, but we are all ignorant of things we are not aware of.
                            Should they continue, in good conscience, to support the IP? No.
                            But enjoying the concept & the world, loving the characters & wanting more? I can't fault that.

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                            • nudlan@mastodon.socialN nudlan@mastodon.social

                              @CordiallyChloe @BenRiceM I don't think my point was argumentative but I guess I can see it could read that way.
                              By joining Mastodon I am trying to be better to get messages out I truly believe in.
                              I explained that I struggle with this separation thing and I 'do' make people aware of things I find wrong or unfair. I have never got through a HP discussion without making absolutely sure people know that they 'are' lining hateful pockets by engaging.
                              Any time I have I seem to be the only one aware.

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                              #43

                              @nudlan @BenRiceM

                              Ok then what happened here is a very different problem.

                              Minorities are often acutely aware of what is causing our oppression to happen. We spend a LOT of time discussing it within our circles and doing what we can to fight it.

                              We KNOW that lots of people are unaware of what's happening.

                              The issue with this thread is that you felt the need to come in and tell us why it's happening, and that wasn't necessary. So it comes across as starting a fight and downplaying the issue. So just don't do that.

                              Tell us what you're doing to fight the ignorance. Not why the ignorance is occurring.

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                              • cordiallychloe@tech.lgbtC cordiallychloe@tech.lgbt

                                @nudlan @BenRiceM

                                Ok then what happened here is a very different problem.

                                Minorities are often acutely aware of what is causing our oppression to happen. We spend a LOT of time discussing it within our circles and doing what we can to fight it.

                                We KNOW that lots of people are unaware of what's happening.

                                The issue with this thread is that you felt the need to come in and tell us why it's happening, and that wasn't necessary. So it comes across as starting a fight and downplaying the issue. So just don't do that.

                                Tell us what you're doing to fight the ignorance. Not why the ignorance is occurring.

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                                #44

                                @CordiallyChloe @BenRiceM My first comment was exactly what you told me to do.

                                I am simply stating my beliefs in whatever way 500 characters or less allow me to.

                                I genuinely hope the author stops reaping boundless amounts of cash after everything they have done. It is part of lots of things that are horrible in the modern world.

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                                • nudlan@mastodon.socialN nudlan@mastodon.social

                                  @CordiallyChloe @BenRiceM My first comment was exactly what you told me to do.

                                  I am simply stating my beliefs in whatever way 500 characters or less allow me to.

                                  I genuinely hope the author stops reaping boundless amounts of cash after everything they have done. It is part of lots of things that are horrible in the modern world.

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                                  @nudlan @BenRiceM

                                  Nowhere in your first comment do you do that. Please work on your self awareness.

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                                  • cordiallychloe@tech.lgbtC cordiallychloe@tech.lgbt

                                    @nudlan @BenRiceM

                                    Nowhere in your first comment do you do that. Please work on your self awareness.

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                                    #46

                                    @CordiallyChloe @BenRiceM I have to disagree - the post makes a point about the HP fandom and I clearly state in the last pharagraph what I believe is happening.

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                                    • nudlan@mastodon.socialN nudlan@mastodon.social

                                      @CordiallyChloe @BenRiceM I have to disagree - the post makes a point about the HP fandom and I clearly state in the last pharagraph what I believe is happening.

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                                      #47

                                      @nudlan @BenRiceM

                                      And I literally just told you NOT to do that.

                                      I told you that it's far more effective to educate people about JK Rowling's bigotry. You don't need to educate trans people about why cishet people are still engaging in her work. We already know. And it's still shitty.

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                                      • cordiallychloe@tech.lgbtC cordiallychloe@tech.lgbt

                                        @nudlan @BenRiceM

                                        And I literally just told you NOT to do that.

                                        I told you that it's far more effective to educate people about JK Rowling's bigotry. You don't need to educate trans people about why cishet people are still engaging in her work. We already know. And it's still shitty.

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                                        #48

                                        @CordiallyChloe @BenRiceM Aah right I see your point.

                                        I guess from my point of view stating that 'I am against hate' goes without saying & I am more interested in the subjective elements of the discussion.
                                        I really don't feel the need to show off or promote myself either (you know how YTer will film themselves donating and shit like that) even though you are right - opening with that would have been better.
                                        I don't suffer like you guys suffer so I didn't read it from your POV, sorry about that

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                                        • benricem@mastodon.socialB benricem@mastodon.social

                                          Engaging with Harry Potter books, movies, theme parks, etc and announcing it to social media is a bizarre thing to do in 2026.

                                          We have been screaming from the rooftops for almost a decade about the harm this causes to trans people. You have no excuse.

                                          If I see it, it’s an immediate unfollow.

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                                          #49

                                          @BenRiceM hey folks, don't be a dick about kids enjoying Harry Potter.
                                          And if you are a parent of kid that wants to read/watch HP buy things second hand or pirate stuff

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