I've heard many liberals say things along the lines of "ICE aren't real police" this often goes hand in hand with "ICE is poorly trained."
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There is a large group of Americans who would much rather report their neighbors than do anything with their kids or even watch the game. It's like a third.
I think it’s more like 30 percent— who don’t reject the idea right away— who don’t have a visceral “hell no” reaction.
But I think the number among that 30 percent willing to step away from their X-box or sandwich and do this work is even smaller. But I don’t know if it’s half of the thirty percent or one in 20.
Tough talk is cheap.
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Only Stephen Miller and assorted deeply disturbed men (and a few women, though this is a bad deal even for white women when you read the fine print) are excited about this project. And I don’t think most of them understand the size of the endeavor or just how ugly it must be. We have seen only a hint of their idea: streets patrolled by thugs, people hiding in their homes— that’s the only way to do this.
Are there really enough people to make it the new reality?
I really hope there are not enough ICE personal available. Iirc there are now 22k ICE thugs, and they are already scraping the bottom of the barrel.
By comparison, the SA had 400k members in 1933 Germany, at 1/5 of the current US population.
I think a lot will depend on whether Trump can get agencies other than the border police to side with his MAGA militia.
Seeing FBI agents ordered to join ICE operations is worrysome.
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I really hope there are not enough ICE personal available. Iirc there are now 22k ICE thugs, and they are already scraping the bottom of the barrel.
By comparison, the SA had 400k members in 1933 Germany, at 1/5 of the current US population.
I think a lot will depend on whether Trump can get agencies other than the border police to side with his MAGA militia.
Seeing FBI agents ordered to join ICE operations is worrysome.
Currently, the trend seems other agencies growing more and more distant to ICE.
Strategically, the ICE crackdown doesn't seem to work out for Trump. The 4% population being organized in anti-ICE networks in Minneapolis is impressive.
But I'm worried that Trump will use ICE to try to escalate violence asa terrorism or insurrection pretext to order other agencies to support the ICE crackdown on political opposition.
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@futurebird @FediThing re: "Getting rid of the existing police (ICE) and remaking it ..."
How is this not just one more "they (ICE) are trying to accomplish a reasonable thing, they're just using bad methods" suggestion?
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