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Harry Potter And The Last Book Came Out 20 Years Ago And The Movies Came Out 15 Years Ago And We All Know Who And What She Is Now And Fuck Everything About That You're Allowed To Grow Up And Stop Caring About This Shit Now.

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  • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

    Harry Potter And Whether You Like It Or Not That Whole Story Is About A Trust Fund Baby Turned Sports Jock Who Went To A Posh Boarding School For That Particular Kind Of Sports Jock Where The Smartest Girl In That Posh Boarding School Carried His Ass In Every Class Every Year And Then He Married His Narrative Afterthought High School Sweetheart And Eventually Graduated And Became A Cop But If You’re Still Buying The Merch 20 Years Later Then You’re Not Ready For This Conversation.

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    #16

    @mhoye

    He didn't become a Cop.

    He became a member of the Secret Police!

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    • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

      Harry Potter And The Cold Hard Fact Of It Is That If You Were 10 When The First Book Came Out You’re Creeping Up On 40 Right Now And Maybe It’s Time To Stop Acting Like A Bigot’s Book About Magical Children Is Something That Matters.

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      #17

      @mhoye

      It's a cult.

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      • billysmith@social.coopB billysmith@social.coop

        @mhoye

        He didn't become a Cop.

        He became a member of the Secret Police!

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        #18

        @BillySmith @mhoye

        That fits with British/American differences I have seen, although the difference between Dock Green and The Sweeney might be enough.

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        • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

          Harry Potter And The Cold Hard Fact Of It Is That If You Were 10 When The First Book Came Out You’re Creeping Up On 40 Right Now And Maybe It’s Time To Stop Acting Like A Bigot’s Book About Magical Children Is Something That Matters.

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          #19

          @mhoye

          Could you please send this to my kids?

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          • amgine@mamot.frA amgine@mamot.fr

            @mhoye

            Could you please send this to my kids?

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            #20

            @Amgine you probably know them better than I do

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            • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

              Harry Potter And Whether You Like It Or Not That Whole Story Is About A Trust Fund Baby Turned Sports Jock Who Went To A Posh Boarding School For That Particular Kind Of Sports Jock Where The Smartest Girl In That Posh Boarding School Carried His Ass In Every Class Every Year And Then He Married His Narrative Afterthought High School Sweetheart And Eventually Graduated And Became A Cop But If You’re Still Buying The Merch 20 Years Later Then You’re Not Ready For This Conversation.

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              #21
              @mhoye It does make for adequate fanfic fodder. Much of which does poke at all of that (and frequently use it to poke at some particularly fucked up British nonsense).

              This also means there is no reason to ever spend money on it (let's be honest, you only read the books via your library and watched the movies off limewire anyway; no one has money to spend on that).
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              • groupnebula563@mastodon.socialG groupnebula563@mastodon.social

                @mhoye not to mention, in all honesty, even if the books and author weren’t horribly problematic, they’re just *not very good*. if you’ve only read harry potter, go pick up another fantasy series. you will be BLOWN AWAY

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                #22

                @GroupNebula563@mastodon.social @mhoye@cosocial.ca Ascendance of a Bookworm is a wonderful Japanese isekai/fantasy series, and it is like 1,000x's better than Harry Potter ever cold hope to be.

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                • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                  @GroupNebula563 inoculating your kids with C. J. Cherryh or Jo Walton seems like a healthy preventative measure.

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                  #23

                  @mhoye @GroupNebula563 Cannot forget Ursula K. Le Guin!

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                  • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                    Harry Potter And The Cold Hard Fact Of It Is That If You Were 10 When The First Book Came Out You’re Creeping Up On 40 Right Now And Maybe It’s Time To Stop Acting Like A Bigot’s Book About Magical Children Is Something That Matters.

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                    #24

                    @mhoye also, if you are almost 40 and still believing Harry Potter to be this magical wonderful thing, you should get a colonoscopy, because some pretty weird shit is coming out of your ass.

                    Edit: wait that's your mouth. Sorry, couldn't tell, weird shit's coming out of it.

                    If you're not, you should probably still get a colonoscopy when it's time, because you don't want the weird shit coming out of your ass.

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                    • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                      @Amgine you probably know them better than I do

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                      #25

                      @mhoye

                      Do you listen to your parents? or some random schmoe (or chatbot) on the internet…

                      sorry. ranting. They said if I could just get 'em through their 30s, it'd be smooth sailing from then on.

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                      • lispi314@udongein.xyzL lispi314@udongein.xyz
                        @mhoye It does make for adequate fanfic fodder. Much of which does poke at all of that (and frequently use it to poke at some particularly fucked up British nonsense).

                        This also means there is no reason to ever spend money on it (let's be honest, you only read the books via your library and watched the movies off limewire anyway; no one has money to spend on that).
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                        #26

                        @lispi314
                        You do you, but this is still problematic in my assessment. Slightly less problematic, but still fundamentally bad given the choices available.

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                        • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                          Harry Potter And Whether You Like It Or Not That Whole Story Is About A Trust Fund Baby Turned Sports Jock Who Went To A Posh Boarding School For That Particular Kind Of Sports Jock Where The Smartest Girl In That Posh Boarding School Carried His Ass In Every Class Every Year And Then He Married His Narrative Afterthought High School Sweetheart And Eventually Graduated And Became A Cop But If You’re Still Buying The Merch 20 Years Later Then You’re Not Ready For This Conversation.

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                          #27

                          @mhoye

                          "And Then He Married His Narrative Afterthought High School Sweetheart"

                          Zomg LOL

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                          • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                            Harry Potter And Whether You Like It Or Not That Whole Story Is About A Trust Fund Baby Turned Sports Jock Who Went To A Posh Boarding School For That Particular Kind Of Sports Jock Where The Smartest Girl In That Posh Boarding School Carried His Ass In Every Class Every Year And Then He Married His Narrative Afterthought High School Sweetheart And Eventually Graduated And Became A Cop But If You’re Still Buying The Merch 20 Years Later Then You’re Not Ready For This Conversation.

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                            #28

                            @mhoye dropped out after year six, largely funded his bud's vanity venture, etc.

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                            • rallias@hax.socialR rallias@hax.social

                              @mhoye also, if you are almost 40 and still believing Harry Potter to be this magical wonderful thing, you should get a colonoscopy, because some pretty weird shit is coming out of your ass.

                              Edit: wait that's your mouth. Sorry, couldn't tell, weird shit's coming out of it.

                              If you're not, you should probably still get a colonoscopy when it's time, because you don't want the weird shit coming out of your ass.

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                              #29

                              @rallias @mhoye Man, this is the post that just keeps giving…

                              Be prepared: https://bitbang.social/@billgoats/117101959788275828

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                              • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                                Harry Potter And Whether You Like It Or Not That Whole Story Is About A Trust Fund Baby Turned Sports Jock Who Went To A Posh Boarding School For That Particular Kind Of Sports Jock Where The Smartest Girl In That Posh Boarding School Carried His Ass In Every Class Every Year And Then He Married His Narrative Afterthought High School Sweetheart And Eventually Graduated And Became A Cop But If You’re Still Buying The Merch 20 Years Later Then You’re Not Ready For This Conversation.

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                                #30

                                @mhoye I think it was @jwz who described it as a story about the troubles of a popular jock who's good at everything.

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                                • groupnebula563@mastodon.socialG groupnebula563@mastodon.social

                                  @mhoye not to mention, in all honesty, even if the books and author weren’t horribly problematic, they’re just *not very good*. if you’ve only read harry potter, go pick up another fantasy series. you will be BLOWN AWAY

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                                  #31

                                  @GroupNebula563 @mhoye No, this is not a justifiable statement. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of legitimate objective criticisms one can make about the series, but "they're just not very good" is not one of them. It's an opinion, and one that many many people do not share. (I happen to think that casting opinions as facts like this tanks one's credibility and undermines legitimate criticism, but I suppose that's just my opinion.)

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                                  • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                                    Harry Potter And Whether You Like It Or Not That Whole Story Is About A Trust Fund Baby Turned Sports Jock Who Went To A Posh Boarding School For That Particular Kind Of Sports Jock Where The Smartest Girl In That Posh Boarding School Carried His Ass In Every Class Every Year And Then He Married His Narrative Afterthought High School Sweetheart And Eventually Graduated And Became A Cop But If You’re Still Buying The Merch 20 Years Later Then You’re Not Ready For This Conversation.

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                                    #32
                                    @mhoye really annoyed that I have to care about harry potter this much, because of how much of a bigot Rowling is

                                    I can't just go "oh that's a little silly" about it, it's annoying
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                                    • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                                      Harry Potter And Whether You Like It Or Not That Whole Story Is About A Trust Fund Baby Turned Sports Jock Who Went To A Posh Boarding School For That Particular Kind Of Sports Jock Where The Smartest Girl In That Posh Boarding School Carried His Ass In Every Class Every Year And Then He Married His Narrative Afterthought High School Sweetheart And Eventually Graduated And Became A Cop But If You’re Still Buying The Merch 20 Years Later Then You’re Not Ready For This Conversation.

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                                      #33

                                      @mhoye that's not even getting into any of the real uncomfortable stuff in the story either.

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                                      • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                                        Harry Potter And Whether You Like It Or Not That Whole Story Is About A Trust Fund Baby Turned Sports Jock Who Went To A Posh Boarding School For That Particular Kind Of Sports Jock Where The Smartest Girl In That Posh Boarding School Carried His Ass In Every Class Every Year And Then He Married His Narrative Afterthought High School Sweetheart And Eventually Graduated And Became A Cop But If You’re Still Buying The Merch 20 Years Later Then You’re Not Ready For This Conversation.

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                                        #34

                                        @mhoye but the trust fund baby was abused as a kid so that makes him relatable and sympathetic!

                                        You also forgot the Destiny component, which relieved him of responsibility for choosing or working to be a hero.

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                                        • diazona@techhub.socialD diazona@techhub.social

                                          @GroupNebula563 @mhoye No, this is not a justifiable statement. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of legitimate objective criticisms one can make about the series, but "they're just not very good" is not one of them. It's an opinion, and one that many many people do not share. (I happen to think that casting opinions as facts like this tanks one's credibility and undermines legitimate criticism, but I suppose that's just my opinion.)

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                                          #35

                                          @diazona
                                          A statement beginning with "in all honesty" is clearly framed as an opinion, so what are you even talking about?

                                          Besides, her prose, story structure and world-building are widely and uncontroversially held to be mediocre. It's not incompatible with a lot of people liking them, but an opinion that the books "aren't very good" is not only justifiable but nearly unassailable on its own terms, and merely saying it isn't objective is saying nothing.

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