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  • jalefkowit@hachyderm.ioJ jalefkowit@hachyderm.io

    Starting a new political party on the platform "Homes For People Before Homes For GPUs"

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    #10

    @jalefkowit

    In fairness, our politicians are delivering on their promise for new housing.

    It's just that we failed to specify that housing was for people rather than clankers.

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    • jalefkowit@hachyderm.ioJ jalefkowit@hachyderm.io

      "I keep coming back to this graph because it’s so eye-popping, almost impossible to believe. As you see in the legend, the blue line is data centers. The grey line is everything else. Everything else. Commercial properties. Rental properties. Single family homes. Multiple family homes. Pick your preferred flavor of development, NIMBY, YIMBY, urban, rural, it’s in there. You basically have rapid data center growth and everything else contracting."

      🎁 https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/its-the-ai-economy-were-just-living-in-it/sharetoken/ca52578d-d5d9-4d8b-9789-2c7a019b291f

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      #11

      @jalefkowit I'm not saying to attack the power and water infrastructure of your local data centers, but I'm also not not saying to attack the power and water infrastructure of your local data centers

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      • jalefkowit@hachyderm.ioJ jalefkowit@hachyderm.io

        "I keep coming back to this graph because it’s so eye-popping, almost impossible to believe. As you see in the legend, the blue line is data centers. The grey line is everything else. Everything else. Commercial properties. Rental properties. Single family homes. Multiple family homes. Pick your preferred flavor of development, NIMBY, YIMBY, urban, rural, it’s in there. You basically have rapid data center growth and everything else contracting."

        🎁 https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/its-the-ai-economy-were-just-living-in-it/sharetoken/ca52578d-d5d9-4d8b-9789-2c7a019b291f

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        #12

        @jalefkowit A lot of people would consider this a misallocation of capital

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        • jalefkowit@hachyderm.ioJ jalefkowit@hachyderm.io

          "I keep coming back to this graph because it’s so eye-popping, almost impossible to believe. As you see in the legend, the blue line is data centers. The grey line is everything else. Everything else. Commercial properties. Rental properties. Single family homes. Multiple family homes. Pick your preferred flavor of development, NIMBY, YIMBY, urban, rural, it’s in there. You basically have rapid data center growth and everything else contracting."

          🎁 https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/its-the-ai-economy-were-just-living-in-it/sharetoken/ca52578d-d5d9-4d8b-9789-2c7a019b291f

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          #13

          @jalefkowit chat are we cooked?

          But seriously that's absolutely jaw dropping and terrifying

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          • jalefkowit@hachyderm.ioJ jalefkowit@hachyderm.io

            "I keep coming back to this graph because it’s so eye-popping, almost impossible to believe. As you see in the legend, the blue line is data centers. The grey line is everything else. Everything else. Commercial properties. Rental properties. Single family homes. Multiple family homes. Pick your preferred flavor of development, NIMBY, YIMBY, urban, rural, it’s in there. You basically have rapid data center growth and everything else contracting."

            🎁 https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/its-the-ai-economy-were-just-living-in-it/sharetoken/ca52578d-d5d9-4d8b-9789-2c7a019b291f

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            #14

            @jalefkowit I don't know what to make of this. I just hope those data centers are never profitable.

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            • jalefkowit@hachyderm.ioJ jalefkowit@hachyderm.io

              "I keep coming back to this graph because it’s so eye-popping, almost impossible to believe. As you see in the legend, the blue line is data centers. The grey line is everything else. Everything else. Commercial properties. Rental properties. Single family homes. Multiple family homes. Pick your preferred flavor of development, NIMBY, YIMBY, urban, rural, it’s in there. You basically have rapid data center growth and everything else contracting."

              🎁 https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/its-the-ai-economy-were-just-living-in-it/sharetoken/ca52578d-d5d9-4d8b-9789-2c7a019b291f

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              #15

              @jalefkowit

              Now let's ask ourselves why oil oligarchs developed a sudden taste for a huge data center construction overbuild ...

              Too many dollars chasing too few assets; a recipe for "profitable" global financial crises

              Pump & Dumps

              https://www.desmog.com/2025/12/11/the-koch-network-is-pushing-trump-to-accelerate-ai-documents-show/

              https://fortune.com/2026/10/14/exclusive-koch-venture-emanate-a16z-industrial-ai/

              https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-09-29/bain-said-to-weigh-15-billion-deal-in-u-turn-on-data-centers

              https://therealdeal.com/national/2026/07/30/koch-receiving-bids-for-potential-15b-data-center-sale/

              https://gizmodo.com/shocker-last-nights-viral-pro-data-center-party-is-tied-to-thiel-the-koch-institute-and-other-ai-boosters-2000817924

              Subsidies
              https://goodjobsfirst.org/koch-rides-the-data-center-boom/

              Money laundering
              https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-11-06/saudis-plan-100-billion-ai-powerhouse-to-rival-uae-s-tech-hub

              https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Saudi-Arabia-UAE-Pour-Over-130-B-Into-AI-To-Offset-Oil-Price-Risks.amp.html

              Corruption
              https://newrepublic.com/article/216376/midterms-data-centers-trump-diesel-ice-corruption

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              • gooba42@mastodon.socialG gooba42@mastodon.social

                @jalefkowit As a civilization we appear to have picked machines over humanity.

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                #16

                @gooba42 @jalefkowit Yes, exactly — it’s *staggering* how, despite all of the warnings from the arts, the researchers, and the spiritual leaders, how, despite all the ways that books, TV shows, movies, comic books, video games, and music made warnings about this across the many centuries of human life, our civilization just shrugs in the face of life-ending tech and says “eh, what’s the worst that could happen?!”

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                • jalefkowit@hachyderm.ioJ jalefkowit@hachyderm.io

                  "I keep coming back to this graph because it’s so eye-popping, almost impossible to believe. As you see in the legend, the blue line is data centers. The grey line is everything else. Everything else. Commercial properties. Rental properties. Single family homes. Multiple family homes. Pick your preferred flavor of development, NIMBY, YIMBY, urban, rural, it’s in there. You basically have rapid data center growth and everything else contracting."

                  🎁 https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/its-the-ai-economy-were-just-living-in-it/sharetoken/ca52578d-d5d9-4d8b-9789-2c7a019b291f

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                  #17

                  @jalefkowit Growing a lot of tulips here I see.

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                  • xennyg@social.vivaldi.netX xennyg@social.vivaldi.net

                    @gooba42 @jalefkowit Yes, exactly — it’s *staggering* how, despite all of the warnings from the arts, the researchers, and the spiritual leaders, how, despite all the ways that books, TV shows, movies, comic books, video games, and music made warnings about this across the many centuries of human life, our civilization just shrugs in the face of life-ending tech and says “eh, what’s the worst that could happen?!”

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                    #18

                    @XennyG @gooba42 @jalefkowit because it looks SO COOL in the movies!

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                      #19

                      @aparrish @jalefkowit Now wonder the oligarchs are so interested in Albania now.

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                      • jalefkowit@hachyderm.ioJ jalefkowit@hachyderm.io

                        @SnoopJ If your money is in data centers, sure 😆

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                        #20

                        @jalefkowit @SnoopJ even this remains to be seen

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                        • jalefkowit@hachyderm.ioJ jalefkowit@hachyderm.io

                          Starting a new political party on the platform "Homes For People Before Homes For GPUs"

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                          #21

                          @jalefkowit

                          Yous before GPUs!

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                          • jalefkowit@hachyderm.ioJ jalefkowit@hachyderm.io

                            "I keep coming back to this graph because it’s so eye-popping, almost impossible to believe. As you see in the legend, the blue line is data centers. The grey line is everything else. Everything else. Commercial properties. Rental properties. Single family homes. Multiple family homes. Pick your preferred flavor of development, NIMBY, YIMBY, urban, rural, it’s in there. You basically have rapid data center growth and everything else contracting."

                            🎁 https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/its-the-ai-economy-were-just-living-in-it/sharetoken/ca52578d-d5d9-4d8b-9789-2c7a019b291f

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                            #22

                            @jalefkowit

                            I do fear that some great, powerful, unfeeling entity is going roll over us, our neighbors and civilization and grind it into dust.

                            AI?! That's laughable. The problem is the same as it's been for the last half-century. It's the corporations run by fools that are willing to sacrifice the world on burning pyre of excess so long as they can keep themselves convinced that through some miracle they will be in a position to rule over the ashes.

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                            • jalefkowit@hachyderm.ioJ jalefkowit@hachyderm.io

                              "I keep coming back to this graph because it’s so eye-popping, almost impossible to believe. As you see in the legend, the blue line is data centers. The grey line is everything else. Everything else. Commercial properties. Rental properties. Single family homes. Multiple family homes. Pick your preferred flavor of development, NIMBY, YIMBY, urban, rural, it’s in there. You basically have rapid data center growth and everything else contracting."

                              🎁 https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/its-the-ai-economy-were-just-living-in-it/sharetoken/ca52578d-d5d9-4d8b-9789-2c7a019b291f

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                              #23

                              @jalefkowit
                              I hope data center buildings will be fit for future habitation. I expect that eventually, data center usage will drop, like that of indoor shopping malls. Malls are now being repurposed as residences and other uses. I hope the same happens with data centers.

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                              • jalefkowit@hachyderm.ioJ jalefkowit@hachyderm.io

                                Starting a new political party on the platform "Homes For People Before Homes For GPUs"

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                                #24

                                @jalefkowit Well, I'm sure the drop in home building may also have something to do with out of control ICE raids and the non-stop deportations impacting all the folks who actually build our homes and such.

                                Not to mention Trump's tariffs on Canadian lumber (and all sorts of other imported things!) that make building homes too expensive as well, etc.

                                Sure, the data center spend may be a part of it, but I bet what is making homebuilding uneconomical at the moment is a combination of factors.

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                                • jalefkowit@hachyderm.ioJ jalefkowit@hachyderm.io

                                  "I keep coming back to this graph because it’s so eye-popping, almost impossible to believe. As you see in the legend, the blue line is data centers. The grey line is everything else. Everything else. Commercial properties. Rental properties. Single family homes. Multiple family homes. Pick your preferred flavor of development, NIMBY, YIMBY, urban, rural, it’s in there. You basically have rapid data center growth and everything else contracting."

                                  🎁 https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/its-the-ai-economy-were-just-living-in-it/sharetoken/ca52578d-d5d9-4d8b-9789-2c7a019b291f

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                                  #25

                                  @jalefkowit yes, but the graph doesn't show the actual numbers. Is that information also available?

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                                  • jalefkowit@hachyderm.ioJ jalefkowit@hachyderm.io

                                    "I keep coming back to this graph because it’s so eye-popping, almost impossible to believe. As you see in the legend, the blue line is data centers. The grey line is everything else. Everything else. Commercial properties. Rental properties. Single family homes. Multiple family homes. Pick your preferred flavor of development, NIMBY, YIMBY, urban, rural, it’s in there. You basically have rapid data center growth and everything else contracting."

                                    🎁 https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/its-the-ai-economy-were-just-living-in-it/sharetoken/ca52578d-d5d9-4d8b-9789-2c7a019b291f

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                                    #26

                                    @jalefkowit

                                    We destroy AI because we want to.

                                    Murderers build AI because they want to.

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                                      #27

                                      @marjolica @jalefkowit

                                      This link has Dec 2023 spending at ~$1600 billion annual adjusted rate for private construction. The OP's graph only vaguely gestures at a possible source, so its hard to tell what number is actually being plotted there. (Monthly spending?)

                                      https://www.census.gov/construction/c30/pdf/pr202312.pdf

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                                      • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

                                        @jalefkowit

                                        We destroy AI because we want to.

                                        Murderers build AI because they want to.

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                                        #28

                                        @GhostOnTheHalfShell @jalefkowit

                                        and soon they will switch to robot factories i guess

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                                        • davemwilburn@infosec.exchangeD davemwilburn@infosec.exchange

                                          @jalefkowit

                                          In fairness, our politicians are delivering on their promise for new housing.

                                          It's just that we failed to specify that housing was for people rather than clankers.

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                                          #29

                                          @DaveMWilburn @jalefkowit

                                          you shouldn't call them clankers, they are listening and watching

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