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  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

    Welcome new people!

    If you want help using this place feel free to ask, I'm trying to provide some unofficial tech support on here (and yes I am a human being). Ask in the replies or mentions or DMs or whatever🙂

    You can also find lots of help for new people at https://fedi.tips, especially in the section marked "Quick Start" at the top of the page.

    How to discover people to follow:
    https://fedi.tips/how-do-i-find-accounts-to-follow-on-mastodon-and-the-fediverse-how-do-i-find-my-friends

    How to make your own account more discoverable:
    https://fedi.tips/how-do-i-get-more-followers-on-mastodon-and-the-fediverse

    tlmcleod@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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    #9

    @FediTips do you have like a cheatsheet of all the different stuff that can be done with posts? Like hashtags, preventing an @ from notifying a person, etc. Something as a quick reference. If not I'll start compiling my own, that's cool too.

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    • tlmcleod@mastodon.socialT tlmcleod@mastodon.social

      @FediTips do you have like a cheatsheet of all the different stuff that can be done with posts? Like hashtags, preventing an @ from notifying a person, etc. Something as a quick reference. If not I'll start compiling my own, that's cool too.

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      #10

      @tlmcleod

      There's a guide to hashtags at https://fedi.tips/what-are-hashtags-how-do-i-use-them-on-mastodon-and-the-fediverse

      There's a guide to post visibilities at https://fedi.tips/who-can-see-my-posts-in-mastodon-how-do-i-send-dms-in-mastodon

      Was this the kind of thing you had in mind?

      "preventing an @ from notifying a person"

      There is no way to do this, you have to remove the @ symbols from their mention to prevent it triggering a notification.

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      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

        @tlmcleod

        There's a guide to hashtags at https://fedi.tips/what-are-hashtags-how-do-i-use-them-on-mastodon-and-the-fediverse

        There's a guide to post visibilities at https://fedi.tips/who-can-see-my-posts-in-mastodon-how-do-i-send-dms-in-mastodon

        Was this the kind of thing you had in mind?

        "preventing an @ from notifying a person"

        There is no way to do this, you have to remove the @ symbols from their mention to prevent it triggering a notification.

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        #11

        @FediTips i could've sworn i read something the other day about when you reply to something with multiple @s that you could make it so only the one you're replying to is replied to, other than removing all the extras. but that could've easily been for somewhere else or imagined on my part lmao

        i'm going to dig through your site and the official documentation and see if i can put together something like a quick ref though. thanks for the help!

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        • tlmcleod@mastodon.socialT tlmcleod@mastodon.social

          @FediTips i could've sworn i read something the other day about when you reply to something with multiple @s that you could make it so only the one you're replying to is replied to, other than removing all the extras. but that could've easily been for somewhere else or imagined on my part lmao

          i'm going to dig through your site and the official documentation and see if i can put together something like a quick ref though. thanks for the help!

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          #12

          @tlmcleod

          The only way to do that is to remove the other mentions.

          Having said that, if you're mentioning an account from the server fedigroups.social you can prevent the mention working by adding a ! before it. But this is special custom code that only works for addresses on that server, it's so people can discuss the server's groups without spamming the group members.

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          • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

            @tlmcleod

            The only way to do that is to remove the other mentions.

            Having said that, if you're mentioning an account from the server fedigroups.social you can prevent the mention working by adding a ! before it. But this is special custom code that only works for addresses on that server, it's so people can discuss the server's groups without spamming the group members.

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            #13

            @FediTips that might be what i was thinking of. it sure sounds like it

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            • tlmcleod@mastodon.socialT tlmcleod@mastodon.social

              @FediTips that might be what i was thinking of. it sure sounds like it

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              #14

              @tlmcleod

              Fedigroups.social got a lot of attention recently when another group server shut down and groups migrated there.

              A lot of people discussed Fedigroups and included the !, and perhaps some people got the wrong end of the stick and started trying to use it on other servers' addresses? (It doesn't do anything for other server addresses.)

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              • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                p.s. I know Mastodon and the wider Fediverse can be a bit trickier to use, but it does get easier once you've spent time here. There are many really good reasons why this place is structured the way it is: https://fedi.tips/why-is-the-fediverse-on-so-many-separate-servers

                Servers on here are fully independent in every sense, usually owned by ordinary grassroots people like you and me. There is no central authority or corporation controlling things, it's up to each server to decide on how it's run and what it allows.

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                #15

                p.p.s. The server mastodon.social is NOT a good place to sign up, for many different reasons (more info here: https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server).

                If you just want one alternative, https://mas.to is a much better option. It's reliable and has been online since 2019, and doesn't suffer from the problems of mastodon.social.

                If you want to choose from a wide selection of servers, there are human curated lists of well-run reliable servers at https://fedi.garden and https://joinmastodon.org/servers

                elliek@zeroes.caE blazeward7@mastodon.socialB vestige@sleepyhe.adV johannab@cosocial.caJ novemdecimal@im-in.spaceN 8 Replies Last reply
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                • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                  p.p.s. The server mastodon.social is NOT a good place to sign up, for many different reasons (more info here: https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server).

                  If you just want one alternative, https://mas.to is a much better option. It's reliable and has been online since 2019, and doesn't suffer from the problems of mastodon.social.

                  If you want to choose from a wide selection of servers, there are human curated lists of well-run reliable servers at https://fedi.garden and https://joinmastodon.org/servers

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                  #16

                  @FediTips
                  But the trouble is, that the time they read this, they've already signed up on it! Probably?

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                  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                    p.p.s. The server mastodon.social is NOT a good place to sign up, for many different reasons (more info here: https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server).

                    If you just want one alternative, https://mas.to is a much better option. It's reliable and has been online since 2019, and doesn't suffer from the problems of mastodon.social.

                    If you want to choose from a wide selection of servers, there are human curated lists of well-run reliable servers at https://fedi.garden and https://joinmastodon.org/servers

                    blazeward7@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #17

                    @FediTips who are you and why are you spamming me?

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                    • elliek@zeroes.caE elliek@zeroes.ca

                      @FediTips
                      But the trouble is, that the time they read this, they've already signed up on it! Probably?

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                      #18

                      @elliek

                      If they've only just signed up and haven't done much yet, they can forget about their mastodon.social account and sign up again on mas.to or elsewhere. It just takes a few minutes. (Also they can recommend to friends to go on mas.to or wherever.)

                      If they've been on mastodon.social for a while, they can move their account elsewhere (transfer guide is at https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server/).

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                      • blazeward7@mastodon.socialB blazeward7@mastodon.social

                        @FediTips who are you and why are you spamming me?

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                        #19

                        @blazeward7

                        You are following me?

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                        • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                          p.p.s. The server mastodon.social is NOT a good place to sign up, for many different reasons (more info here: https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server).

                          If you just want one alternative, https://mas.to is a much better option. It's reliable and has been online since 2019, and doesn't suffer from the problems of mastodon.social.

                          If you want to choose from a wide selection of servers, there are human curated lists of well-run reliable servers at https://fedi.garden and https://joinmastodon.org/servers

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                          #20

                          @FediTips

                          this kind of post...

                          It's better to join a small server compared to a big server.

                          And it's better to join a big server compared to a network run by cryptocryptofascists.

                          "It's a really bad idea" kind of rhetoric, and "is NOT a good place to sign up" kind of rhetoric, is actively toxic, actually.

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                          • vestige@sleepyhe.adV vestige@sleepyhe.ad

                            @FediTips

                            this kind of post...

                            It's better to join a small server compared to a big server.

                            And it's better to join a big server compared to a network run by cryptocryptofascists.

                            "It's a really bad idea" kind of rhetoric, and "is NOT a good place to sign up" kind of rhetoric, is actively toxic, actually.

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                            #21

                            @vestige

                            The reason networks become run by bad people is precisely because they are centralised and easy to take over.

                            The Fediverse is hard to take over when it's spread out on many servers, but easy to take over if it is on one huge server.

                            Mastodon.social is by far the largest server, already on 20% and rising. The more mastodon.social grows, the more the Fediverse is in danger.

                            If we don't think about the dangers now, it will become really difficult to deal with them in the future.

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                            • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                              p.p.s. The server mastodon.social is NOT a good place to sign up, for many different reasons (more info here: https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server).

                              If you just want one alternative, https://mas.to is a much better option. It's reliable and has been online since 2019, and doesn't suffer from the problems of mastodon.social.

                              If you want to choose from a wide selection of servers, there are human curated lists of well-run reliable servers at https://fedi.garden and https://joinmastodon.org/servers

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                              #22

                              @FediTips I’m gonna tag along here and point out there are also many good servers that don’t get listed for one reason or another. Coops and vote-only spaces are often excluded when new users can’t do drive- by signups but are sometimes more stable and welcoming than wide open ones.

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                              • johannab@cosocial.caJ johannab@cosocial.ca

                                @FediTips I’m gonna tag along here and point out there are also many good servers that don’t get listed for one reason or another. Coops and vote-only spaces are often excluded when new users can’t do drive- by signups but are sometimes more stable and welcoming than wide open ones.

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                                #23

                                @johannab

                                Fedi.garden does not require instant signups. If you have a server that is compatible with the seven points at https://fedi.garden/about-this-site let me know and I'll list it 🙂

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                                • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                  @vestige

                                  The reason networks become run by bad people is precisely because they are centralised and easy to take over.

                                  The Fediverse is hard to take over when it's spread out on many servers, but easy to take over if it is on one huge server.

                                  Mastodon.social is by far the largest server, already on 20% and rising. The more mastodon.social grows, the more the Fediverse is in danger.

                                  If we don't think about the dangers now, it will become really difficult to deal with them in the future.

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                                  #24

                                  @FediTips

                                  I get all of that.

                                  But also, my first Fedi account was on mastodon dot online. My next one was on counter dot social. That didn't work, so I went to mastodon.sdf dot org. They were having capacity problems, so I went to tech dot lgbt and infosec dot exchange. And then I found out it wasn't all that hard to host your own, and now I run a copy of Cortex Implant's fork.

                                  There's a lot to be said about all of this, but we need to be real: onboarding to Fedi is atrocious, and the doom and gloom about big servers and everything just makes this seem overwhelming.

                                  "Welcome to Fedi! Your first server doesn't matter, pick one you like, you can migrate! Make some friends! Be kind!"

                                  That's more the vibe I wish I'd first encountered.

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                                  • vestige@sleepyhe.adV vestige@sleepyhe.ad

                                    @FediTips

                                    I get all of that.

                                    But also, my first Fedi account was on mastodon dot online. My next one was on counter dot social. That didn't work, so I went to mastodon.sdf dot org. They were having capacity problems, so I went to tech dot lgbt and infosec dot exchange. And then I found out it wasn't all that hard to host your own, and now I run a copy of Cortex Implant's fork.

                                    There's a lot to be said about all of this, but we need to be real: onboarding to Fedi is atrocious, and the doom and gloom about big servers and everything just makes this seem overwhelming.

                                    "Welcome to Fedi! Your first server doesn't matter, pick one you like, you can migrate! Make some friends! Be kind!"

                                    That's more the vibe I wish I'd first encountered.

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                                    #25

                                    @vestige

                                    "Welcome to Fedi! Your first server doesn't matter, pick one you like, you can migrate! Make some friends! Be kind!"

                                    That isn't what new people are told any more. They are told to sign up on mastodon.social on both the official app and the official website.

                                    The result is people think they have to sign up on mastodon.social and it is taking up an ever-larger chunk of the Fediverse.

                                    If it grows to over 50%, anyone with enough money will be able to take over most of the network.

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                                    • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                      @vestige

                                      "Welcome to Fedi! Your first server doesn't matter, pick one you like, you can migrate! Make some friends! Be kind!"

                                      That isn't what new people are told any more. They are told to sign up on mastodon.social on both the official app and the official website.

                                      The result is people think they have to sign up on mastodon.social and it is taking up an ever-larger chunk of the Fediverse.

                                      If it grows to over 50%, anyone with enough money will be able to take over most of the network.

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                                      #26

                                      @FediTips

                                      I get it. And this is a problem that needs to be addressed with big accounts, and not every single new user.

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                                      • vestige@sleepyhe.adV vestige@sleepyhe.ad

                                        @FediTips

                                        I get it. And this is a problem that needs to be addressed with big accounts, and not every single new user.

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                                        #27

                                        @vestige

                                        No, it's the percentage of active accounts that matters when taking over a network.

                                        If mastodon.social keeps growing, in a few years we will end up in exactly the scenario we are seeing right now with Bluesky and the one we saw a few years ago with Twitter.

                                        The only way to break this cycle is if people do not join the biggest server. It's a simple thing to do, the signup process etc is identical on other servers.

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                                        • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                          p.p.s. The server mastodon.social is NOT a good place to sign up, for many different reasons (more info here: https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server).

                                          If you just want one alternative, https://mas.to is a much better option. It's reliable and has been online since 2019, and doesn't suffer from the problems of mastodon.social.

                                          If you want to choose from a wide selection of servers, there are human curated lists of well-run reliable servers at https://fedi.garden and https://joinmastodon.org/servers

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                                          #28

                                          @FediTips

                                          If I recall correctly, the official mobile Mastodon app have users sign up on the default instance which is... as you guessed it, mastodon.social

                                          This, doesn't help either because a lot of newcomers are most likely mobile users.

                                          I know that this is to make it easier for newcomers, but I think it just buries the onboarding problem rather than solve it.

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