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  • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

    "I have nothing to hide."

    False.

    You have medical history

    You have financial behavior

    You have location patterns

    You have political views

    You have relationship data

    Privacy was never about hiding crimes. It was always about owning your life.

    madengineering@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #50

    @Tutanota Privacy is knowing that at some point some lunatic with much more power than he deserves is going to decide "You know what, fuck that mad engineer guy, how can I best lean on him?" and the more I have in public, the more tools this guy is going to have.

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    • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

      "I have nothing to hide."

      False.

      You have medical history

      You have financial behavior

      You have location patterns

      You have political views

      You have relationship data

      Privacy was never about hiding crimes. It was always about owning your life.

      rogue_cells@chaos.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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      #51

      @Tutanota I don't need privacy because of me doing something nefarious. I need privacy because I have to question your intent, goodwill, and competence to keep me safe, based on your past actions.

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      • d4v@mastodon.socialD d4v@mastodon.social

        @Tutanota I stopped arguing with people that says that. Because they even doesn't care if their medical history and everything gets leaked.

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        #52

        @d4v @Tutanota It’s especially funny when it comes from Americans, when the US has the concept of "doxxing" where someone spreads someone else’s address, phone number, email address or the like…

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        • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

          "I have nothing to hide."

          False.

          You have medical history

          You have financial behavior

          You have location patterns

          You have political views

          You have relationship data

          Privacy was never about hiding crimes. It was always about owning your life.

          A This user is from outside of this forum
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          aurelpere@mastodon.social
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          #53

          @Tutanota 👍

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          • the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.comT the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.com

            @Tutanota "I have nothing to hide" ... "How did the scammer got my phone number?"

            "I have nothing to hide" ... "What is all this spam I'm getting?"

            "I have nothing to hide" ... "How did you know I was going to this restaurant?"

            "I have nothing to hide" ... "Why's this advertisement so accurate?"

            "I have nothing to hide" ... "Data breach? What? My medical records are in?!"

            "I have nothing to hide" ... 'Security Message: Someone logged into your account'..."I don't remember logging in today."

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            softwaretheron@mas.to
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            #54

            @The_Universality @Tutanota

            "I have nothing to hide."

            "How many guns do you own?"

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            • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

              "I have nothing to hide."

              False.

              You have medical history

              You have financial behavior

              You have location patterns

              You have political views

              You have relationship data

              Privacy was never about hiding crimes. It was always about owning your life.

              octothorpe@mastodon.onlineO This user is from outside of this forum
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              octothorpe@mastodon.online
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              #55

              @Tutanota @Catfish_Man Turn to someone and look directly at them with dead eyes and tell them ‘I know when your kids leave for school in the morning, and when they leave school in the afternoon, and the routes they take’.

              And watch them freak the fuck out.

              Weird how that happens.

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              • mo@mastodon.mlM mo@mastodon.ml

                @pnairolf even funnier, sometimes illegallness may backpropagate! The fact, that it was legal back then, doesn't guarantee anything

                like, by Russian constitution, laws cannot have reverse power, but then they introduced concept of «ongoing crime»

                basically, if you posted something, while it's still available — it's subject to the most recent law. You posted a quote of an opposition politician, and don't removed it when they were declared extremist? You're now guilty of spreading extremist information. No, forgetting is not an excuse

                @Tutanota

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                #56

                @mo @pnairolf @Tutanota retroactive laws?

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                • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                  "I have nothing to hide."

                  False.

                  You have medical history

                  You have financial behavior

                  You have location patterns

                  You have political views

                  You have relationship data

                  Privacy was never about hiding crimes. It was always about owning your life.

                  peteriskrisjanis@toot.lvP This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #57

                  @Tutanota when your boss badly want to know where you stand on tax policy, trust me, you have a lot to hide from people that have no right to intrude in your life.

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                  • crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC crazyeddie@mastodon.social

                    @The_Universality @Tutanota Nixon -> Richard -> Dick

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                    #58

                    @crazyeddie
                    Well, in case you decide for a pig I suggest Donald, with or without the surname.😃
                    @The_Universality @Tutanota

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                    • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                      "I have nothing to hide."

                      False.

                      You have medical history

                      You have financial behavior

                      You have location patterns

                      You have political views

                      You have relationship data

                      Privacy was never about hiding crimes. It was always about owning your life.

                      multifact@floss.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #59

                      @Tutanota I have nothing to show.

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                      • multifact@floss.socialM multifact@floss.social

                        @Tutanota I have nothing to show.

                        tutanota@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #60

                        @multifact 😀

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                        • pepintheshort@ieji.deP pepintheshort@ieji.de

                          @Tutanota I tried what that guy on YouTube said: when people tell me they have nothing to hide I ask them to share their email password with me. I promise to do no wrong at all, I'd just login occasionally, read some emails and leave. No damage, no writing, no deleting, no traces left. So far they all refused 😐

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                          #61

                          @pepintheshort @Tutanota you should have also asked for their door key (actually, you could even ask why they have one), promising that you won't touch anything, just share photos of their household goods to everyone you know...

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                          • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                            "I have nothing to hide."

                            False.

                            You have medical history

                            You have financial behavior

                            You have location patterns

                            You have political views

                            You have relationship data

                            Privacy was never about hiding crimes. It was always about owning your life.

                            nando161@partyon.xyzN This user is from outside of this forum
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                            nando161@partyon.xyz
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                            #62

                            @Tutanota #classwar, #EatTheRich, #fuckthesystem!

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                            • S softwaretheron@mas.to

                              @The_Universality @Tutanota

                              "I have nothing to hide."

                              "How many guns do you own?"

                              the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.comT This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #63

                              @SoftwareTheron @Tutanota Two crossbows!

                              ...

                              Wait.

                              WAIT!

                              (This is actually the first time someone suggested this. But I wouldn't find this one that harmful.)

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                              • the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.comT the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.com

                                @SoftwareTheron @Tutanota Two crossbows!

                                ...

                                Wait.

                                WAIT!

                                (This is actually the first time someone suggested this. But I wouldn't find this one that harmful.)

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                                softwaretheron@mas.to
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                                #64

                                @The_Universality @Tutanota
                                Perhaps you remember "the gummint's coming for our guns!!" ?

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                                • S softwaretheron@mas.to

                                  @The_Universality @Tutanota
                                  Perhaps you remember "the gummint's coming for our guns!!" ?

                                  the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.comT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #65

                                  @SoftwareTheron No. This is the first time I hear about this.

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                                  • the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.comT the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.com

                                    @SoftwareTheron No. This is the first time I hear about this.

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                                    #66

                                    @The_Universality
                                    Too American, perhaps? (Not that I am.)
                                    Or maybe too old.

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                                    • S softwaretheron@mas.to

                                      @The_Universality
                                      Too American, perhaps? (Not that I am.)
                                      Or maybe too old.

                                      the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.comT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #67

                                      @SoftwareTheron I'm from EU Member State and not even old.

                                      Still I don't know to what event is that refering to nor what were the arguments.

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                                      • the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.comT the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.com

                                        @SoftwareTheron I'm from EU Member State and not even old.

                                        Still I don't know to what event is that refering to nor what were the arguments.

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                                        softwaretheron@mas.to
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                                        #68

                                        @The_Universality
                                        I'm old.

                                        There was, and probably still is, a claim among some right-wing Americans that they have guns to protect them from the state, and that the state is continually trying to constrain their ownership of weapons.

                                        The same people claim(-ed) to believe strongly that only those with something to hide should be frightened by intrusive law enforcement and data-gathering. Generally, what they actually meant was "The cops are on our side and we should be able to know everything about you". Especially in an LGBTQ+ context. Not illegal, but being strongly resisted by exactly these people.

                                        I wish I'd thought to point this contradiction out to them when I knew some, in the very early days of social media.

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                                        • S softwaretheron@mas.to

                                          @The_Universality
                                          I'm old.

                                          There was, and probably still is, a claim among some right-wing Americans that they have guns to protect them from the state, and that the state is continually trying to constrain their ownership of weapons.

                                          The same people claim(-ed) to believe strongly that only those with something to hide should be frightened by intrusive law enforcement and data-gathering. Generally, what they actually meant was "The cops are on our side and we should be able to know everything about you". Especially in an LGBTQ+ context. Not illegal, but being strongly resisted by exactly these people.

                                          I wish I'd thought to point this contradiction out to them when I knew some, in the very early days of social media.

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                                          #69

                                          @SoftwareTheron That is indeed contradicting statement from their side, then.

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