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  3. ’Denmark Switches.’ A national campaign to collectively move off Big Tech.

’Denmark Switches.’ A national campaign to collectively move off Big Tech.

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  • hpmaennicke@social.anoxinon.deH hpmaennicke@social.anoxinon.de

    @Pepijn
    I'm just talking about my experience. Nothing more. And everything is true.

    And if we're honest, we know that (almost) all banks earn a lot of money with our money.
    And compared to PayPal, Wise is always the better partner.
    If #Wero continues to gain momentum in Europe, a lot can change. But only in Europe. (Like PIX in Brazil).

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    #218

    @hpmaennicke Sure. But let's be clear to others then and don't suggest that the experience is the same for everyone.

    And to be honest, I'd rather have real European banks work well* than yet another US owned company like #Wise.

    *which they do: every private person can send and receive euros for free from and to every euro / sepa country. No extra in-between company is needed for that.

    edit: I've deleted the rest of my replies. For all reading this: check Wikipedia, "funding" and fines.

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    • pepijn@mastodon.onlineP pepijn@mastodon.online

      @hpmaennicke Sure. But let's be clear to others then and don't suggest that the experience is the same for everyone.

      And to be honest, I'd rather have real European banks work well* than yet another US owned company like #Wise.

      *which they do: every private person can send and receive euros for free from and to every euro / sepa country. No extra in-between company is needed for that.

      edit: I've deleted the rest of my replies. For all reading this: check Wikipedia, "funding" and fines.

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      #219

      @Pepijn
      Wise is not an American bank—it’s a UK-based FinTech company, founded and headquartered in London. While it partners with US banks (like Wells Fargo) to offer local account details for USD transactions, Wise itself is regulated in Europe (by the National Bank of Belgium) and operates globally as a payment institution, not a traditional bank. Always transparent about fees and exchange rates!

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      • hpmaennicke@social.anoxinon.deH This user is from outside of this forum
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        #220

        @Pepijn

        Since 2021 Wise plc (ISIN: GB00BL9YR756) is listed and traded on the London Stock Exchange."
        Wise is not a US-dominated company. The largest single shareholder is anonymous, and while US investors like Andreessen Horowitz hold significant but non-majority stakes, the majority of shares are widely distributed. Control remains with the founders and European investors.

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        • hpmaennicke@social.anoxinon.deH This user is from outside of this forum
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          #221

          @Pepijn
          As a resident of Brazil, you cannot open an account with any European banking service provider. This makes all transfers to Brazil very expensive.
          Only Wise offers account opening in Brazil in accordance with government financial regulations.
          Incidentally, the majority of shares are not held by American shareholders, and the shares are only traded in London.

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          • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

            I've added a new 2026 Digital Resolution to my 'Denmark switches from Big Tech' goals.

            I had already switched from Patreon to Steady. Thanks to @JohanEmpa for making that possible after he added Steady as a Mastodon.green payment option.

            Now my Microsoft subscription is the only thing left on PayPal and I'm almost deMicrosofted. So I'll be cancelling, not renewing, that. So now I commit to deleting my PayPal account. Today. Inspired by @oldrup, who just did this.

            #DanmarkSkifter

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            #222

            @CiaraNi @JohanEmpa @oldrup My decades old digital kleptomania has left me with a lot of work to do.. i have been stashing files in multiple 1 TB onedrive accounts for ages. ugh.

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            • K kerplunk@mastodon.scot

              @CiaraNi

              From Google Play to F-Droid

              I find that for some applications further options are needed.

              https://www.apkmirror.com/

              https://uptodown-android.en.uptodown.com/android

              https://auroraoss.com/

              Pls take a look at NetGuard git, it prevents apps on android phones from calling home to mommy and blocks ads.

              I donated to the developer and got an unlocking key for extra features.

              Getting setup can sometimes be difficult but well worth the bother when you see all the places your phone tries to connect to.

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              #223

              @Kerplunk @CiaraNi I just use the AdGuard DNS. That blocks so much nonsense. Okay, I only use it on my phone but the laptop has browser plugins.
              dns.adguard-dns.com

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              • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                Before I could pick my 2026 goal for #DanmarkSkifter, I did a digital status. I was mildly surprised when I saw my 2025 digital changes together. I looked at the list and thought: ’Tell me you hang out in the Fediverse without telling me you hang out in the Fediverse.’

                From Outlook to Tuta
                From Office to Libre
                From MS Authenticator to Ente Authenticator
                From Google Play to F-Droid
                From Spotify to AntennaPod
                From Firefox to Vivaldi
                From DuckDuckGo to NoAIDuckDuckGo
                And I bought a back-up drive.

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                #224

                @CiaraNi Honestly Google Play is just so incredibly bad. Even if I know what I'm looking for it feels like it is actively trying to block me from getting to it.
                It is a far cry from the early days of smartphones where you could check app stores and find cool things.

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                • johnlorimer@mastodon.socialJ johnlorimer@mastodon.social

                  @CiaraNi @JohanEmpa @oldrup My decades old digital kleptomania has left me with a lot of work to do.. i have been stashing files in multiple 1 TB onedrive accounts for ages. ugh.

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                  @johnlorimer Multiple 1TB OneDrives - oof, I sympathise. That'll take a while to untangle from. I have one, not even close to being anywhere near full, and still it's been taking me months to sort out my photos. On the plus side, I am deleting manically and enjoying that process a lot. A very therapeutic photo massacre! And also good for the environment, reducing storage waste. We'll get there, all of us, step by step 🤞

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                  • drgroftehauge@sigmoid.socialD drgroftehauge@sigmoid.social

                    @CiaraNi Honestly Google Play is just so incredibly bad. Even if I know what I'm looking for it feels like it is actively trying to block me from getting to it.
                    It is a far cry from the early days of smartphones where you could check app stores and find cool things.

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                    #226

                    @drgroftehauge Agreed. I was so busy trying to get away from Big Tech that I didn't think deeply about what I was moving to. So it's been a pleasant surprise to experience that every open-source thing I've switched to so far is better and calmer and simpler to use. Including F-Droid, instead of Google Play.

                    #DanmarkSkifter

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                    • drgroftehauge@sigmoid.socialD drgroftehauge@sigmoid.social

                      @Kerplunk @CiaraNi I just use the AdGuard DNS. That blocks so much nonsense. Okay, I only use it on my phone but the laptop has browser plugins.
                      dns.adguard-dns.com

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                      @drgroftehauge @CiaraNi

                      @Kerplunk @CiaraNi I just use the AdGuard DNS.

                      Net Guard git can do a lot more, a donation directly to the developer is cheap and unlocks all features.

                      The app can not only use blocklists against ads scams etc but more importantly control the applications and to some extent the operating system.

                      When you see all the places your phone has been silently contacting and how often you will, as I was, be shocked.

                      Setup takes a little effort but worth it.

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                      • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                        @drgroftehauge Agreed. I was so busy trying to get away from Big Tech that I didn't think deeply about what I was moving to. So it's been a pleasant surprise to experience that every open-source thing I've switched to so far is better and calmer and simpler to use. Including F-Droid, instead of Google Play.

                        #DanmarkSkifter

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                        #228

                        @CiaraNi @drgroftehauge I know I'm supposed to be the techie out of us, Ciara, but how do you actually switch to f-Droid?

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                        • carstenboll@mstdn.dkC carstenboll@mstdn.dk

                          @CiaraNi @drgroftehauge I know I'm supposed to be the techie out of us, Ciara, but how do you actually switch to f-Droid?

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                          #229

                          @CarstenBoll @CiaraNi @drgroftehauge first time you need to do it manually:

                          You can download the apk from the official webpage (click on the button: download f-droid): https://f-droid.org/en/

                          Then i suggest to open the apk from the file manager (to avoid giving install permissions to the browser), you will be asked for permissions with a scary page. After you install it you can remove the permits.

                          You will have to approve the install permission for f-droid the first time you install something

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                          • antoniovr@mastodon.socialA antoniovr@mastodon.social

                            @CarstenBoll @CiaraNi @drgroftehauge first time you need to do it manually:

                            You can download the apk from the official webpage (click on the button: download f-droid): https://f-droid.org/en/

                            Then i suggest to open the apk from the file manager (to avoid giving install permissions to the browser), you will be asked for permissions with a scary page. After you install it you can remove the permits.

                            You will have to approve the install permission for f-droid the first time you install something

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                            @CarstenBoll @CiaraNi @drgroftehauge it can be installed directly from the browser but then I think it is advisable to remove the install permissions from the browser.

                            If you consider this complex, i can try to record a video showing it

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                            • antoniovr@mastodon.socialA antoniovr@mastodon.social

                              @CarstenBoll @CiaraNi @drgroftehauge it can be installed directly from the browser but then I think it is advisable to remove the install permissions from the browser.

                              If you consider this complex, i can try to record a video showing it

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                              @antoniovr @CiaraNi @drgroftehauge nah, seems doable, didn't consider getting it from the browser. Doh.

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                              • N nielsulf@social.vivaldi.net

                                @CiaraNi
                                Jeg bruger allerede Proton produkterne og er godt tilfreds. Min browswe er Vivaldi, søgemaskine er Qwant, AI er Lumo. Så jeg er godt på vej vil jeg mene.
                                Kigger på ny mobil, FairPhone, men har ikke pengene til den lige nu så det må desværre blive en ny Android fabrikeret i Asien.

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                                #232

                                @Nielsulf @CiaraNi Lumo og jeg forstår ikke helt hinanden endnu 😂.

                                Jeg bruger stort set aldrig AI, men har brugt det til fx at holde det forkromede overblik over min igangværende grundoprydning i huset for at spare på mit sparsomme mentale overskud.

                                Så - jeg arbejder på at få den til at forstå min måde at punktopstille på fx. Men det skal nok komme
                                Jeg åbnede først for den i går, trods alt 😉

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