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  3. Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

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  • pmb00cs@mastodon.onlineP pmb00cs@mastodon.online

    @TimothyRoes @lisamelton I would like to point out that when I joined Facebook that was the default feed algorithm, when I joined Twitter that was the default feed algorithm. Now them changing that default wasn't why I left those platforms, but it certainly didn't help.

    timothyroes@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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    #140

    @pmb00cs @lisamelton Agreed, but I think the best guarantee is that this platform is not driven by profit and is built on an open protocol so people who don't like where things are going can vote with their feet. All that said Lisa's main point was that we should promote toots by boosting and reacting to them and that I totally agree with

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    • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

      Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

      Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

      Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

      We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

      Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

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      turbulent@mastodon.social
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      #141

      @lisamelton I think that should be explained at the beginning of the adventure with Mastodon, because now it makes sense what's the purpose of boosting. The users being "the algorithm" makes a ton of sense, but coming from corporate SM I didn't know that model so I didn't boost anything.

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      • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

        Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

        Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

        Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

        We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

        Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

        evelynoctavia@c.imE This user is from outside of this forum
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        #142

        @lisamelton really? Bringing machine algorithm to mastodon? I think it's outright impossible, and my words are the same as yours!

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        • fallsmom@mastodon.coffeeF fallsmom@mastodon.coffee

          @lisamelton

          Yes! And how did I see this post? A boost from a friend (yay!), not from an algorithm !

          evelynoctavia@c.imE This user is from outside of this forum
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          #143

          @FallsMom @lisamelton i saw this post on trending tab. So it's technically an algorithm?

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          • badrihippo@fosstodon.orgB badrihippo@fosstodon.org

            @lisamelton you're right!

            It's not true that "the Fediverse has no algorithm"

            The algorithm is just easy to miss because it's implemented not through machines but through ourselves and other people

            mxalba@blahaj.zoneM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #144

            @badrihippo@fosstodon.org @lisamelton@mastodon.social

            Exactly. The people you follow and the people you share an instance with are your algorithm. Which is why it's so important for your over-all experience to choose your instance wisely. Small to medium sized instances that cater to people with a significant overlap with your own interests are generally best.

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            • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

              Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

              Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

              Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

              We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

              Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

              landelare@mastodon.gamedev.placeL This user is from outside of this forum
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              landelare@mastodon.gamedev.place
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #145

              @lisamelton Isn't that what bsky is for? 🤨

              (rhetorical)

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              • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                mxalba@blahaj.zoneM This user is from outside of this forum
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                mxalba@blahaj.zone
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #146

                @lisamelton@mastodon.social

                Sounds like that person hasn't realized an important fact of the Fediverse yet: the importance of choosing The Right Instance. Ideally, you should be on an instance that isn't overwhelmingly active, catering to people who you have some overlap of shared interest with.

                Huuuuuge instances like mastodon.social almost never fit that bill. They're so overwhelming that the local and global feeds are overwhelming and will have hardly any overlap with your interests. Find the right instance for you, and half the "algorithm" work is done! Luckily, the Fediverse allows for moving your account between different instances - even between different social networks.

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                • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                  Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                  Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                  Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                  We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                  Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

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                  mongol@mastodon.social
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                  #147

                  @lisamelton согласен с Вами!

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                  • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                    Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                    Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                    Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                    We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                    Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                    damiano_chech@techhub.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                    damiano_chech@techhub.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                    damiano_chech@techhub.social
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                    #148

                    @lisamelton That’s where all the magic is — you choose your own feed and the people you want to follow, without a forced algorithm. And it really feels like a more “alive” internet, where there’s a real community, not just an endless feed of whatever gets pushed to you

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                    • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                      Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                      Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                      Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                      We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                      Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                      kwas_na@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
                      kwas_na@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
                      kwas_na@mastodon.social
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                      #149

                      @lisamelton I do wonder, why are these techbros even on here if they don’t like it and want to enshittify it that much? I want to curate stuff, see stuff curated by other humans, and I don’t need a machine to ragebait me into screen time that’s off the charts!!

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                      • dazrunner@mastodon.socialD dazrunner@mastodon.social

                        @david_chisnall @lisamelton

                        hi david, thanks. 🙂

                        I think my misunderstanding stemmed from the fact that, i'm following a popular hashtag with numerous low quality posts. All of which are appearing on my feed. I'm also getting same entity posts

                        I realise there's a beauty behind a manually selected feed. Many Social Networks will use a hybrid model of a personalised selection and algorithmic filtering.

                        Noone wants #mastodon to become another Facebook. Let's respect (and learn from) our foe?

                        2003mugishaphocit@mastodon.social2 This user is from outside of this forum
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                        2003mugishaphocit@mastodon.social
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #150

                        @DazRunner @david_chisnall @lisamelton I am a farmer,who is training young people about in school and communities about food production and sustainability,and we would like to connect with you for the sharing of knowledge and ideas on how we can practise in the best way.
                        Do you agree?

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                        • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                          Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                          Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                          Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                          We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                          Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                          vexaciousfacts@infosec.exchangeV This user is from outside of this forum
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                          vexaciousfacts@infosec.exchange
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                          #151

                          @lisamelton How words are born - cue the algorithm to popularize the term techbrojackhole. Should be trending soon given current state....well done!! I'll be using this daily if not hourly!

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                          • dazrunner@mastodon.socialD dazrunner@mastodon.social

                            @lisamelton i'll play devil's advocate on this one. I'm a #mastodon noob. So maybe i'm doing something wrong.

                            My feed features numerous low-effort posts with no community engagement. One after the other. Is there room for improvement in the algorithm?

                            I feel that labelling users who voluntarily provide feedback - as 'jackholes', is unnecessary. ( with all due respect 😉 )

                            My 2 cents.

                            bammerlaan@mastodon.nlB This user is from outside of this forum
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                            bammerlaan@mastodon.nl
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                            #152

                            @DazRunner @lisamelton Just to chime in: the way I've been using Mastodon is by using hashtags. I set them up like I described here: https://bammerlaan.nl/posts/Using-hashtags-Mastodon

                            Then I just follow a lot of people, semi-indiscriminately, and now I have curated lists of different topics. May be of use to you?

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                            • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                              Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                              Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                              Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                              We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                              Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                              acoollady@theatl.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                              acoollady@theatl.social
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                              #153

                              @lisamelton Well then the algorithm needs to get off its collective ass and actually start boosting things. This is independent of all techbros and ai data centers needing to be launched into the sun asap

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                              • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                                Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                                Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                                Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                                We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                                Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                                occult@vox.ominous.netO This user is from outside of this forum
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                                occult@vox.ominous.net
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #154

                                @lisamelton Yes, and folks on BlueSky will see a post like yours and cry “look how hostile Mastodon is! It’s such an echo chamber!” While they screenshot it, quote it, post it around with snarky comments.

                                They would rather complain about every enshittification move BlueSky makes but do nothing about it, while crying foul that folks on Mastodon are choosing who and what they see in their own feed.

                                I like it here just fine, less clout chasers, more cats

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                                • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                                  Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                                  Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                                  Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                                  We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                                  Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

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                                  patricus@gts.posix.live
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                                  #155

                                  @lisamelton yeah! keep the scumbags over at x

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                                  • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                                    Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                                    Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                                    Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                                    We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                                    Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                                    colinstu@birdbutt.comC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    colinstu@birdbutt.com
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                                    #156

                                    @lisamelton so many times from folks I hear “I don’t have time for curation”… like.. wtf DO you have time for?? Endless algo slop ya hate??!! I don’t get it.
                                    Everyone all curated their own shit forever up until a certain point. Wish folks would ever go back.

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                                    • bammerlaan@mastodon.nlB bammerlaan@mastodon.nl

                                      @DazRunner @lisamelton Just to chime in: the way I've been using Mastodon is by using hashtags. I set them up like I described here: https://bammerlaan.nl/posts/Using-hashtags-Mastodon

                                      Then I just follow a lot of people, semi-indiscriminately, and now I have curated lists of different topics. May be of use to you?

                                      dazrunner@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      dazrunner@mastodon.social
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                                      #157

                                      @bammerlaan Interesting, thanks.

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                                      • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                                        Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                                        Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                                        Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                                        We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                                        Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                                        brooklynhill26@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        brooklynhill26@mastodon.social
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #158

                                        @lisamelton Personal curation is power.
                                        The moment we hand that over to algorithms, we lose what makes this space real.

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                                        • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                                          Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                                          Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                                          Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                                          We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                                          Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                                          fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.ukF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk
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                                          #159

                                          @lisamelton i block these people right away

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