Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.
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Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social
.Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.
Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.
We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.
Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together.
@lisamelton I do wonder, why are these techbros even on here if they don’t like it and want to enshittify it that much? I want to curate stuff, see stuff curated by other humans, and I don’t need a machine to ragebait me into screen time that’s off the charts!!
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hi david, thanks.
I think my misunderstanding stemmed from the fact that, i'm following a popular hashtag with numerous low quality posts. All of which are appearing on my feed. I'm also getting same entity posts
I realise there's a beauty behind a manually selected feed. Many Social Networks will use a hybrid model of a personalised selection and algorithmic filtering.
Noone wants #mastodon to become another Facebook. Let's respect (and learn from) our foe?
@DazRunner @david_chisnall @lisamelton I am a farmer,who is training young people about in school and communities about food production and sustainability,and we would like to connect with you for the sharing of knowledge and ideas on how we can practise in the best way.
Do you agree? -
Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social
.Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.
Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.
We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.
Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together.
@lisamelton How words are born - cue the algorithm to popularize the term techbrojackhole. Should be trending soon given current state....well done!! I'll be using this daily if not hourly!
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@lisamelton i'll play devil's advocate on this one. I'm a #mastodon noob. So maybe i'm doing something wrong.
My feed features numerous low-effort posts with no community engagement. One after the other. Is there room for improvement in the algorithm?
I feel that labelling users who voluntarily provide feedback - as 'jackholes', is unnecessary. ( with all due respect
)My 2 cents.
@DazRunner @lisamelton Just to chime in: the way I've been using Mastodon is by using hashtags. I set them up like I described here: https://bammerlaan.nl/posts/Using-hashtags-Mastodon
Then I just follow a lot of people, semi-indiscriminately, and now I have curated lists of different topics. May be of use to you?
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Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social
.Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.
Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.
We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.
Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together.
@lisamelton Well then the algorithm needs to get off its collective ass and actually start boosting things. This is independent of all techbros and ai data centers needing to be launched into the sun asap
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Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social
.Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.
Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.
We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.
Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together.
@lisamelton Yes, and folks on BlueSky will see a post like yours and cry “look how hostile Mastodon is! It’s such an echo chamber!” While they screenshot it, quote it, post it around with snarky comments.
They would rather complain about every enshittification move BlueSky makes but do nothing about it, while crying foul that folks on Mastodon are choosing who and what they see in their own feed.
I like it here just fine, less clout chasers, more cats
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Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social
.Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.
Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.
We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.
Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together.
@lisamelton yeah! keep the scumbags over at x
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Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social
.Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.
Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.
We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.
Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together.
@lisamelton so many times from folks I hear “I don’t have time for curation”… like.. wtf DO you have time for?? Endless algo slop ya hate??!! I don’t get it.
Everyone all curated their own shit forever up until a certain point. Wish folks would ever go back. -
@DazRunner @lisamelton Just to chime in: the way I've been using Mastodon is by using hashtags. I set them up like I described here: https://bammerlaan.nl/posts/Using-hashtags-Mastodon
Then I just follow a lot of people, semi-indiscriminately, and now I have curated lists of different topics. May be of use to you?
@bammerlaan Interesting, thanks.
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Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social
.Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.
Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.
We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.
Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together.
@lisamelton Personal curation is power.
The moment we hand that over to algorithms, we lose what makes this space real. -
Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social
.Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.
Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.
We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.
Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together.
@lisamelton i block these people right away
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Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social
.Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.
Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.
We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.
Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together.
@lisamelton Are you talking about a certain Product Strategy Advisor to Mastodon Core team, or did I missed something else?
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@lisamelton The Trending tab does this for me -- I have my curated feed, and periodically I click on Trending, which leads me to NEW PEOPLE who I can follow. And also breaking news.
There IS an algorithm. You just get to CHOOSE whether to use it.
@nosrednayduj On my instance, the trending tab is always empty, which maybe is just true. It's an instance for mathematicians, maybe just nothing ever trends. @lisamelton
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@lisamelton Nah, I'd love it if people that post only when I'm asleep, or people that only post occasionally get bubbled up so that I can read their stuff and not have it buried by folks that post several times a day, every day. "Algorithm" isn't an inherently naughty word.
@haliphax @lisamelton @karlhigley
You can already have this with Lists. A list for sleep posters, a list for low volume posters. Clients can implement features to automatically create these kinds of lists for you without any change to how Mastodon servers work. Maybe it already exists
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@haliphax @lisamelton @karlhigley
You can already have this with Lists. A list for sleep posters, a list for low volume posters. Clients can implement features to automatically create these kinds of lists for you without any change to how Mastodon servers work. Maybe it already exists@haliphax @lisamelton @karlhigley I think to most people "the algorithm" means something that digs up the most popular posts across a specific social media and jams it into your feed. So you "are part of the global conversation". It sucks and selects for lowest common denominators (which is often US centric). Additionally, it typically optimises for engagement rather than enjoyment.
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Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social
.Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.
Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.
We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.
Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together.
@lisamelton Besides, it is curious for me that how that "auto feed" would work for me. I always lurk only global feed, and I never have a single clue what I will get there. Iran news? Cute cats? Some software I did not know even exists? It is total random and I like it.
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@haliphax @lisamelton @karlhigley I think to most people "the algorithm" means something that digs up the most popular posts across a specific social media and jams it into your feed. So you "are part of the global conversation". It sucks and selects for lowest common denominators (which is often US centric). Additionally, it typically optimises for engagement rather than enjoyment.
@drgroftehauge @lisamelton @karlhigley Yes, I understand what most people think of when it comes to the capital A Algorithm. I also understand it's possible to do myself by fastidiously selecting and maintaining lists like a second job, and that software can do things. To my knowledge, no such feature exists in any client that I am aware of. Phanpy gets close, but not quite (and it's a very clunky experimental feature).
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@IveyJanette Come to think of it, he might have been coming *from* Shitter.
Figures.@lisamelton Of course.
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@lisamelton I'd like to be able to apply my own algorithm to my home feed, though. Some sort of syntax that you can save as 'filters', similar to how you'd configure a search engine to generate relevant results. People could share and discuss these, and it would foster a deeper understanding of the impact these algorithms have on what people see. My main fear is that instances would pop up that come with 'built in' malicious filters.
@lastofthem@mastodon-belgium.be @lisamelton@mastodon.social Misskey antennas are basically this. You can pick specific users and/or keywords to include or exclude.
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@lisamelton Personal curation is power.
The moment we hand that over to algorithms, we lose what makes this space real.@BrooklynHill26
For those who have already handed it over to algorithms, how can they regain their power back?
