Goodmorning from the foggy Danish countryside 🇩🇰
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Not sure why but I have a lot of interest in #train toilets.
Anyway. Every time I've been on Czech ComfortJet the toilets were fine. Same today.
Today was also the sixth or so time I came to the toilet only to find someone waiting for a closed door. ... Waiting only for me to push the door just a *bit* more forceful than they had, opening it and showing it was empty. "Oh!.."
All were from DE, NL or Nordics. Somehow this design is outside our grasp of normality.
I talked to a DSB conductor about this. He laughed and said not a journey goes by without him saying "push harder" at least once.
He also said how this was "at least not an issue with the Talgo". As those toilets have sliding doors that fail without people realising, so other passengers can open the door "mid poop".
I told him about @jon longest train journey event and he loved it "I hope DSB doesn't fuck it up for him"
I think we bonded
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I talked to a DSB conductor about this. He laughed and said not a journey goes by without him saying "push harder" at least once.
He also said how this was "at least not an issue with the Talgo". As those toilets have sliding doors that fail without people realising, so other passengers can open the door "mid poop".
I told him about @jon longest train journey event and he loved it "I hope DSB doesn't fuck it up for him"
I think we bonded
@Pepijn In the country of *waves downward-tilted hand back and forth*, I can see how "push harder" would be needed with our Central European stuff
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@Pepijn In the country of *waves downward-tilted hand back and forth*, I can see how "push harder" would be needed with our Central European stuff
@HaTetsu After the first time I was in a ComfortJet (with door sensors that work at walking speed) I ended up speed-walking right into a non-opening door in a Danish IC3..
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@HaTetsu After the first time I was in a ComfortJet (with door sensors that work at walking speed) I ended up speed-walking right into a non-opening door in a Danish IC3..
@Pepijn Not a risk for those experienced with Polish FPS stuff, gotta push a button there XP
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Not sure why but I have a lot of interest in #train toilets.
Anyway. Every time I've been on Czech ComfortJet the toilets were fine. Same today.
Today was also the sixth or so time I came to the toilet only to find someone waiting for a closed door. ... Waiting only for me to push the door just a *bit* more forceful than they had, opening it and showing it was empty. "Oh!.."
All were from DE, NL or Nordics. Somehow this design is outside our grasp of normality.
@Pepijn
Not having a handle or push plate seems a poor design choice -
Not sure why but I have a lot of interest in #train toilets.
Anyway. Every time I've been on Czech ComfortJet the toilets were fine. Same today.
Today was also the sixth or so time I came to the toilet only to find someone waiting for a closed door. ... Waiting only for me to push the door just a *bit* more forceful than they had, opening it and showing it was empty. "Oh!.."
All were from DE, NL or Nordics. Somehow this design is outside our grasp of normality.
@Pepijn I walked through three carriages on an AVE before I realised the toilet doors were sliding ones.
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@Pepijn
Not having a handle or push plate seems a poor design choice@ColmDonoghue I think it's really just a cultural quirk. A handle would stick out, and a push plate is in itself a non-intuitive "learned feature"*
*Apple smartphones are widely reported to be super user friendly. And it is if you've grown into it over years of training-without-realising-it's-training.
Now imagine a person who has never used a 2026 level Apple smartphone to do basic stuff like unlocking the device or using the undo feature in a textbox. They probably can't.
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@ColmDonoghue I think it's really just a cultural quirk. A handle would stick out, and a push plate is in itself a non-intuitive "learned feature"*
*Apple smartphones are widely reported to be super user friendly. And it is if you've grown into it over years of training-without-realising-it's-training.
Now imagine a person who has never used a 2026 level Apple smartphone to do basic stuff like unlocking the device or using the undo feature in a textbox. They probably can't.
@Pepijn @ColmDonoghue I have to add that it isn't cultural, I took ComfortJet few weeks ago and was confused too.
It is completely different design of opening doors than on all other trains in CZ.
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@Pepijn @ColmDonoghue I have to add that it isn't cultural, I took ComfortJet few weeks ago and was confused too.
It is completely different design of opening doors than on all other trains in CZ.
@plactagonic Interesting! The Czech people I saw that had an "issue" just pushed... and then pushed harder without a real delay.
While the Danes just stood there after the first push
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@plactagonic Interesting! The Czech people I saw that had an "issue" just pushed... and then pushed harder without a real delay.
While the Danes just stood there after the first push
@Pepijn @ColmDonoghue only problem I had was - confusion what to do, push the button (it is meant for blind people to give them hint where to push), read the sticker, pushed, pushed harder and got in...
Bit hard for the first time, and yes I then helped few people to get in.
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@smveerman Every single thing is very much "budget". Just as on a spreadsheet this bus is perfectly decent yet in operation that for now (these things will age quickly) makes it nothing more than "not a bad bus"
So even though it could easily have been better maybe this just fits the specs of contrasting colour?
@Pepijn there are design decisions I wouldn’t make. I would put the luggage storage on top of the wheel, and move the wheelchair space to the right side, to create more space for seats. But that’s a hot topic in bus design land it seems.
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I talked to a DSB conductor about this. He laughed and said not a journey goes by without him saying "push harder" at least once.
He also said how this was "at least not an issue with the Talgo". As those toilets have sliding doors that fail without people realising, so other passengers can open the door "mid poop".
I told him about @jon longest train journey event and he loved it "I hope DSB doesn't fuck it up for him"
I think we bonded
Google Pixel phone. For people who need an always-on spyware device and who have their children looked after by a babysitter whose name they don't remember.
Hamburg Hbf is very chill today. An entire class of local ten year olds is having a lot of fun with their a challenge of pointing out all the deceased pigeons. It's very relatable.
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Google Pixel phone. For people who need an always-on spyware device and who have their children looked after by a babysitter whose name they don't remember.
Hamburg Hbf is very chill today. An entire class of local ten year olds is having a lot of fun with their a challenge of pointing out all the deceased pigeons. It's very relatable.
@Pepijn I have a Google Pixel 7 with Murena eOS.
EDIT: Mac OS didn't like eOS, changed it to "En osaa sanoa" ("I can't say" in Finnish.)
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@Pepijn I have a Google Pixel 7 with Murena eOS.
EDIT: Mac OS didn't like eOS, changed it to "En osaa sanoa" ("I can't say" in Finnish.)
@kallekn I recognised it as Finnish and assumed it to be some edgy way of naming their versions
I do hope your babysitter (even if hypothetical) has an actual name and is not just defined by their function.
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Google Pixel phone. For people who need an always-on spyware device and who have their children looked after by a babysitter whose name they don't remember.
Hamburg Hbf is very chill today. An entire class of local ten year olds is having a lot of fun with their a challenge of pointing out all the deceased pigeons. It's very relatable.
If you're like me and wonder what is up with all the Siemens Vec- stuff.
Vectron: locomotive. Vec- by abusing the word "vectors" to evoke modernity. -tron as it's generally difficult to match with vec, and this is at least part of "electronic".
Vectouro: coaches. -touro as these are used for tours. Vec- to signal "system!".
Vectrain: control car. -train as with this thing you create an entire push-pull train.
Vectourotraintron would've been better.
/Train Facts
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@kallekn I recognised it as Finnish and assumed it to be some edgy way of naming their versions
I do hope your babysitter (even if hypothetical) has an actual name and is not just defined by their function.
@Pepijn The children have grown up.
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@HaTetsu After the first time I was in a ComfortJet (with door sensors that work at walking speed) I ended up speed-walking right into a non-opening door in a Danish IC3..
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If you're like me and wonder what is up with all the Siemens Vec- stuff.
Vectron: locomotive. Vec- by abusing the word "vectors" to evoke modernity. -tron as it's generally difficult to match with vec, and this is at least part of "electronic".
Vectouro: coaches. -touro as these are used for tours. Vec- to signal "system!".
Vectrain: control car. -train as with this thing you create an entire push-pull train.
Vectourotraintron would've been better.
/Train Facts
@Pepijn https://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/raleigh/38402 "the classic raleigh vektar with star wars styling and knightrider tecnology including a speedometer a fm radio and sounds console, unique sturmey archer control paddles on the handel bars one is for on/off and sound for the console and the other one is for the gear shift"
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Not sure why but I have a lot of interest in #train toilets.
Anyway. Every time I've been on Czech ComfortJet the toilets were fine. Same today.
Today was also the sixth or so time I came to the toilet only to find someone waiting for a closed door. ... Waiting only for me to push the door just a *bit* more forceful than they had, opening it and showing it was empty. "Oh!.."
All were from DE, NL or Nordics. Somehow this design is outside our grasp of normality.
@Pepijn The ComfortJet toilets really are a fun thing! The first time I took one I basically punched the door open to the surprise of the other waiting passenger
I feel like the resistance when just pushing is just high enough that people stop pressing before it opens, it works better with some kind of impulse. -
If you're like me and wonder what is up with all the Siemens Vec- stuff.
Vectron: locomotive. Vec- by abusing the word "vectors" to evoke modernity. -tron as it's generally difficult to match with vec, and this is at least part of "electronic".
Vectouro: coaches. -touro as these are used for tours. Vec- to signal "system!".
Vectrain: control car. -train as with this thing you create an entire push-pull train.
Vectourotraintron would've been better.
/Train Facts
Dortmund Hbf has this sweet jump with tracks ending just before a cliff.
Maybe the #bahnbubble can help out my curiosity: did any train ever went over the edge here?
