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  • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

    I got a call from someone I don't know.

    "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

    "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

    "That much?"

    Some silence.

    "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

    Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

    I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

    #IT #SysAdmin

    teapot_ben@glammr.usT This user is from outside of this forum
    teapot_ben@glammr.usT This user is from outside of this forum
    teapot_ben@glammr.us
    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #7

    @stefano 🤯 it's amazing (by which I mean worrying) how many people seem to think they can absolve themselves of any responsibility by using AI.

    I don't understand why anyone would just let AI loose on a production system like that, and even blame AI for not taking backups. Although why was it not being backed up anyway?

    I wonder how much more money they will waste in tokens rather than pay a professional to fix the mess.

    _ad@hachyderm.io_ bms@mastodon.bsd.cafeB oxy@social.bsdlab.auO sewblue@sfba.socialS dolanor@hachyderm.ioD 5 Replies Last reply
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    • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

      I got a call from someone I don't know.

      "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

      "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

      "That much?"

      Some silence.

      "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

      Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

      I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

      #IT #SysAdmin

      82mhz@mastodon.bsd.cafe8 This user is from outside of this forum
      82mhz@mastodon.bsd.cafe8 This user is from outside of this forum
      82mhz@mastodon.bsd.cafe
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #8

      @stefano
      One day, you should write a book with all these stories 😉

      stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS 1 Reply Last reply
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      • 82mhz@mastodon.bsd.cafe8 82mhz@mastodon.bsd.cafe

        @stefano
        One day, you should write a book with all these stories 😉

        stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS This user is from outside of this forum
        stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS This user is from outside of this forum
        stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #9

        @82mhz Maybe I should 😉

        amerika@fsebugoutzone.orgA debellum@ludosphere.frD 2 Replies Last reply
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        • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

          I got a call from someone I don't know.

          "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

          "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

          "That much?"

          Some silence.

          "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

          Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

          I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

          #IT #SysAdmin

          cheapdozen@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
          cheapdozen@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
          cheapdozen@mastodon.social
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #10

          @stefano Looks like it won’t take any of our jobs anytime soon. Theirs on the other hand…

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          • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

            I got a call from someone I don't know.

            "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

            "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

            "That much?"

            Some silence.

            "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

            Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

            I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

            #IT #SysAdmin

            toots@fairy.idT This user is from outside of this forum
            toots@fairy.idT This user is from outside of this forum
            toots@fairy.id
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #11

            @stefano they could at least have block-level imaged it before they sent an AI onto it. I forget that people who have servers don't know how to use them; sometimes.

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            • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

              I got a call from someone I don't know.

              "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

              "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

              "That much?"

              Some silence.

              "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

              Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

              I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

              #IT #SysAdmin

              slothrop@chaos.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
              slothrop@chaos.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
              slothrop@chaos.social
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #12

              @stefano wait, what’s the FreeBSD equivalent of “apt update && apt upgrade” ?!

              slothrop@chaos.socialS subnetspider@mastodon.bsd.cafeS evgandr@snac.bsd.cafeE 3 Replies Last reply
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              • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

                @stefano wait, what’s the FreeBSD equivalent of “apt update && apt upgrade” ?!

                slothrop@chaos.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
                slothrop@chaos.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
                slothrop@chaos.social
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #13

                @stefano never mind, I’ll go ask AI

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                • teapot_ben@glammr.usT teapot_ben@glammr.us

                  @stefano 🤯 it's amazing (by which I mean worrying) how many people seem to think they can absolve themselves of any responsibility by using AI.

                  I don't understand why anyone would just let AI loose on a production system like that, and even blame AI for not taking backups. Although why was it not being backed up anyway?

                  I wonder how much more money they will waste in tokens rather than pay a professional to fix the mess.

                  _ad@hachyderm.io_ This user is from outside of this forum
                  _ad@hachyderm.io_ This user is from outside of this forum
                  _ad@hachyderm.io
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #14

                  @teapot_ben we saw this coming when people would follow instructions from any Web site or forum without knowing what they mean, now it's been skinned with a golden sheen.

                  @stefano

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                  • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                    I got a call from someone I don't know.

                    "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

                    "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

                    "That much?"

                    Some silence.

                    "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

                    Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

                    I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

                    #IT #SysAdmin

                    himysyed@littleone.littlefedi.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
                    himysyed@littleone.littlefedi.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
                    himysyed@littleone.littlefedi.social
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #15

                    @stefano@bsd.cafe Some people do not deserve the privilege of being your customer.

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                    • wizbean@tech.lgbtW wizbean@tech.lgbt

                      @stefano "it didn't even make backups!" skill issue lmao

                      somebody@circumstances.runS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      somebody@circumstances.run
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #16

                      @wizbean @stefano Telling the clanker to just fuck my shit up zero hesitation without even considering a manual backup first.

                      somebody@circumstances.runS keisatsu@infosec.exchangeK bob_zim@infosec.exchangeB robotdiver@starlite.rodeoR 4 Replies Last reply
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                      • somebody@circumstances.runS somebody@circumstances.run

                        @wizbean @stefano Telling the clanker to just fuck my shit up zero hesitation without even considering a manual backup first.

                        somebody@circumstances.runS This user is from outside of this forum
                        somebody@circumstances.runS This user is from outside of this forum
                        somebody@circumstances.run
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #17

                        @wizbean @stefano showed this to a friend and they just said "i love the difference in value when the money goes to an expert compared to the shart machine" and the reply was "It's literally gambling. A professional is a known quantity. But like a gambler, the sloperator hopes that they will beat the averages."

                        wizbean@tech.lgbtW bolomkxxviii@mastodon.socialB 2 Replies Last reply
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                        • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                          I got a call from someone I don't know.

                          "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

                          "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

                          "That much?"

                          Some silence.

                          "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

                          Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

                          I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

                          #IT #SysAdmin

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                          luc0x61@mastodon.gamedev.place
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #18

                          @stefano If an LLM takes €500 to screw it then you should ask €1000 to fix it.

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                          • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                            I got a call from someone I don't know.

                            "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

                            "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

                            "That much?"

                            Some silence.

                            "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

                            Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

                            I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

                            #IT #SysAdmin

                            ianthetechie@fosstodon.orgI This user is from outside of this forum
                            ianthetechie@fosstodon.orgI This user is from outside of this forum
                            ianthetechie@fosstodon.org
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #19

                            @stefano how the heck to you even spend that much?! For context I do use these tools fairly regularly and my spend is like $20/month 😂 And all they were trying to do was some basic server admin?!

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                            • ianthetechie@fosstodon.orgI ianthetechie@fosstodon.org

                              @stefano how the heck to you even spend that much?! For context I do use these tools fairly regularly and my spend is like $20/month 😂 And all they were trying to do was some basic server admin?!

                              stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                              stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #20

                              @ianthetechie if I understood correct, they used then api and let an agent run for…days?

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                              • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                I got a call from someone I don't know.

                                "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

                                "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

                                "That much?"

                                Some silence.

                                "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

                                Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

                                I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

                                #IT #SysAdmin

                                paul@fedi.paulwilde.ukP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                paul@fedi.paulwilde.uk
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #21

                                @stefano@bsd.cafe probably good you didn’t touch it - they would definitely blame you for the dataloss AI caused.

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                                • _ad@hachyderm.io_ _ad@hachyderm.io

                                  @teapot_ben we saw this coming when people would follow instructions from any Web site or forum without knowing what they mean, now it's been skinned with a golden sheen.

                                  @stefano

                                  teapot_ben@glammr.usT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  teapot_ben@glammr.us
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #22

                                  @_aD I guess it is just the next step on from running curl | sh as root 🙁 @stefano

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                                  • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                    I got a call from someone I don't know.

                                    "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

                                    "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

                                    "That much?"

                                    Some silence.

                                    "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

                                    Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

                                    I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

                                    #IT #SysAdmin

                                    tionisla@mastodon.bsd.cafeT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    tionisla@mastodon.bsd.cafe
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #23

                                    @stefano Well played, sir. Well, played. <tips hat> 🙂

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                                    • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                      I got a call from someone I don't know.

                                      "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

                                      "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

                                      "That much?"

                                      Some silence.

                                      "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

                                      Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

                                      I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

                                      #IT #SysAdmin

                                      duncan_bayne@mastodon.bsd.cafeD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      duncan_bayne@mastodon.bsd.cafe
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #24

                                      @stefano Remember it's €5,000 when they call back in a week 😜

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                                      • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                        I got a call from someone I don't know.

                                        "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

                                        "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

                                        "That much?"

                                        Some silence.

                                        "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

                                        Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

                                        I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

                                        #IT #SysAdmin

                                        jspath55@chaos.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #25

                                        @stefano I almost think this story is unbelievable, except I know you well enough to be certain the tale, sadly, is true.
                                        Sorry for their loss.
                                        As the Monty Python troupe would say/yell: "run away!"

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                                        • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                          @ianthetechie if I understood correct, they used then api and let an agent run for…days?

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                                          ianthetechie@fosstodon.org
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #26

                                          @stefano I have heard of such things of course but I still can’t understand it 😅 wow…

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