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  • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

    I got a call from someone I don't know.

    "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

    "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

    "That much?"

    Some silence.

    "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

    Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

    I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

    #IT #SysAdmin

    82mhz@mastodon.bsd.cafe8 This user is from outside of this forum
    82mhz@mastodon.bsd.cafe8 This user is from outside of this forum
    82mhz@mastodon.bsd.cafe
    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #8

    @stefano
    One day, you should write a book with all these stories 😉

    stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS 1 Reply Last reply
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    • 82mhz@mastodon.bsd.cafe8 82mhz@mastodon.bsd.cafe

      @stefano
      One day, you should write a book with all these stories 😉

      stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS This user is from outside of this forum
      stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS This user is from outside of this forum
      stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #9

      @82mhz Maybe I should 😉

      amerika@fsebugoutzone.orgA debellum@ludosphere.frD 2 Replies Last reply
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      • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

        I got a call from someone I don't know.

        "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

        "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

        "That much?"

        Some silence.

        "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

        Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

        I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

        #IT #SysAdmin

        cheapdozen@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
        cheapdozen@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
        cheapdozen@mastodon.social
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #10

        @stefano Looks like it won’t take any of our jobs anytime soon. Theirs on the other hand…

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        • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

          I got a call from someone I don't know.

          "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

          "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

          "That much?"

          Some silence.

          "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

          Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

          I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

          #IT #SysAdmin

          toots@fairy.idT This user is from outside of this forum
          toots@fairy.idT This user is from outside of this forum
          toots@fairy.id
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #11

          @stefano they could at least have block-level imaged it before they sent an AI onto it. I forget that people who have servers don't know how to use them; sometimes.

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          • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

            I got a call from someone I don't know.

            "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

            "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

            "That much?"

            Some silence.

            "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

            Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

            I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

            #IT #SysAdmin

            slothrop@chaos.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
            slothrop@chaos.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
            slothrop@chaos.social
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #12

            @stefano wait, what’s the FreeBSD equivalent of “apt update && apt upgrade” ?!

            slothrop@chaos.socialS subnetspider@mastodon.bsd.cafeS evgandr@snac.bsd.cafeE 3 Replies Last reply
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            • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

              @stefano wait, what’s the FreeBSD equivalent of “apt update && apt upgrade” ?!

              slothrop@chaos.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
              slothrop@chaos.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
              slothrop@chaos.social
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #13

              @stefano never mind, I’ll go ask AI

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              • teapot_ben@glammr.usT teapot_ben@glammr.us

                @stefano 🤯 it's amazing (by which I mean worrying) how many people seem to think they can absolve themselves of any responsibility by using AI.

                I don't understand why anyone would just let AI loose on a production system like that, and even blame AI for not taking backups. Although why was it not being backed up anyway?

                I wonder how much more money they will waste in tokens rather than pay a professional to fix the mess.

                _ad@hachyderm.io_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #14

                @teapot_ben we saw this coming when people would follow instructions from any Web site or forum without knowing what they mean, now it's been skinned with a golden sheen.

                @stefano

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                • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                  I got a call from someone I don't know.

                  "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

                  "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

                  "That much?"

                  Some silence.

                  "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

                  Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

                  I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

                  #IT #SysAdmin

                  himysyed@littleone.littlefedi.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
                  himysyed@littleone.littlefedi.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
                  himysyed@littleone.littlefedi.social
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #15

                  @stefano@bsd.cafe Some people do not deserve the privilege of being your customer.

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                  • wizbean@tech.lgbtW wizbean@tech.lgbt

                    @stefano "it didn't even make backups!" skill issue lmao

                    somebody@circumstances.runS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    somebody@circumstances.run
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #16

                    @wizbean @stefano Telling the clanker to just fuck my shit up zero hesitation without even considering a manual backup first.

                    somebody@circumstances.runS keisatsu@infosec.exchangeK bob_zim@infosec.exchangeB robotdiver@starlite.rodeoR 4 Replies Last reply
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                    • somebody@circumstances.runS somebody@circumstances.run

                      @wizbean @stefano Telling the clanker to just fuck my shit up zero hesitation without even considering a manual backup first.

                      somebody@circumstances.runS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #17

                      @wizbean @stefano showed this to a friend and they just said "i love the difference in value when the money goes to an expert compared to the shart machine" and the reply was "It's literally gambling. A professional is a known quantity. But like a gambler, the sloperator hopes that they will beat the averages."

                      wizbean@tech.lgbtW bolomkxxviii@mastodon.socialB 2 Replies Last reply
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                      • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                        I got a call from someone I don't know.

                        "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

                        "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

                        "That much?"

                        Some silence.

                        "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

                        Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

                        I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

                        #IT #SysAdmin

                        L This user is from outside of this forum
                        L This user is from outside of this forum
                        luc0x61@mastodon.gamedev.place
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #18

                        @stefano If an LLM takes €500 to screw it then you should ask €1000 to fix it.

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                        • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                          I got a call from someone I don't know.

                          "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

                          "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

                          "That much?"

                          Some silence.

                          "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

                          Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

                          I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

                          #IT #SysAdmin

                          ianthetechie@fosstodon.orgI This user is from outside of this forum
                          ianthetechie@fosstodon.orgI This user is from outside of this forum
                          ianthetechie@fosstodon.org
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #19

                          @stefano how the heck to you even spend that much?! For context I do use these tools fairly regularly and my spend is like $20/month 😂 And all they were trying to do was some basic server admin?!

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                          • ianthetechie@fosstodon.orgI ianthetechie@fosstodon.org

                            @stefano how the heck to you even spend that much?! For context I do use these tools fairly regularly and my spend is like $20/month 😂 And all they were trying to do was some basic server admin?!

                            stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #20

                            @ianthetechie if I understood correct, they used then api and let an agent run for…days?

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                            • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                              I got a call from someone I don't know.

                              "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

                              "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

                              "That much?"

                              Some silence.

                              "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

                              Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

                              I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

                              #IT #SysAdmin

                              paul@fedi.paulwilde.ukP This user is from outside of this forum
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                              paul@fedi.paulwilde.uk
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #21

                              @stefano@bsd.cafe probably good you didn’t touch it - they would definitely blame you for the dataloss AI caused.

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                              • _ad@hachyderm.io_ _ad@hachyderm.io

                                @teapot_ben we saw this coming when people would follow instructions from any Web site or forum without knowing what they mean, now it's been skinned with a golden sheen.

                                @stefano

                                teapot_ben@glammr.usT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #22

                                @_aD I guess it is just the next step on from running curl | sh as root 🙁 @stefano

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                                • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                  I got a call from someone I don't know.

                                  "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

                                  "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

                                  "That much?"

                                  Some silence.

                                  "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

                                  Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

                                  I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

                                  #IT #SysAdmin

                                  tionisla@mastodon.bsd.cafeT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  tionisla@mastodon.bsd.cafe
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #23

                                  @stefano Well played, sir. Well, played. <tips hat> 🙂

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                                  • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                    I got a call from someone I don't know.

                                    "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

                                    "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

                                    "That much?"

                                    Some silence.

                                    "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

                                    Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

                                    I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

                                    #IT #SysAdmin

                                    duncan_bayne@mastodon.bsd.cafeD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    duncan_bayne@mastodon.bsd.cafe
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #24

                                    @stefano Remember it's €5,000 when they call back in a week 😜

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                                    • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                      I got a call from someone I don't know.

                                      "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

                                      "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

                                      "That much?"

                                      Some silence.

                                      "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

                                      Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

                                      I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

                                      #IT #SysAdmin

                                      jspath55@chaos.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      jspath55@chaos.social
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #25

                                      @stefano I almost think this story is unbelievable, except I know you well enough to be certain the tale, sadly, is true.
                                      Sorry for their loss.
                                      As the Monty Python troupe would say/yell: "run away!"

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                                      • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                        @ianthetechie if I understood correct, they used then api and let an agent run for…days?

                                        ianthetechie@fosstodon.orgI This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #26

                                        @stefano I have heard of such things of course but I still can’t understand it 😅 wow…

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                                        • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                          I got a call from someone I don't know.

                                          "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

                                          "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

                                          "That much?"

                                          Some silence.

                                          "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

                                          Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

                                          I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

                                          #IT #SysAdmin

                                          distrowatch@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          distrowatch@mastodon.social
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #27

                                          @stefano I recently had someone ask me to set up WordPress for them. I agreed and they asked if I would be using AI to do the work. I assured them no, it is a simple (for me) task which takes just a few minutes.

                                          They then clarified they were asking me to use AI to do the install. They thought using AI would somehow make the vanilla WordPress setup better. They were fine with it taking longer, even, if I somehow involved AI in the process they had already offloaded to me.

                                          carstenfranke@mastodon.socialC linuxfiend@gts.linuxfiend.netL gbargoud@masto.nycG 3 Replies Last reply
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