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  3. Pleased to share a page and explainer for the AI tarpit project Science is Poetry, with legal statement, rationale(s), and a few deployment notes:

Pleased to share a page and explainer for the AI tarpit project Science is Poetry, with legal statement, rationale(s), and a few deployment notes:

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  • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

    Do you have an unused domain that you would be happy to donate to a counter-offensive against unchecked & unregulated AI crawlers that scrape human-made content to simulate & deceive for profit?

    If so, pls reply to this post. Your domain would become an entrypoint to the AI tarpit & Poison-as-a-Service project below, allowing concerned public to choose to use it on their sites, helping make the project more resilient to blacklisting.

    https://julianoliver.com/projects/science-is-poetry/

    #ai #bigtech #tacticalmedia

    narthur@hachyderm.ioN This user is from outside of this forum
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    #21

    @JulianOliver do they have to be root domains? Could I set up a subdomain or two for you?

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    • narthur@hachyderm.ioN narthur@hachyderm.io

      @JulianOliver do they have to be root domains? Could I set up a subdomain or two for you?

      julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #22

      @narthur A subdomain is just fine, yes!

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      • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
        julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
        julianoliver@mastodon.social
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        #23

        @lightweight Fantastic, thanks Dave!

        A: 95.216.76.85
        AAAA: 2a01:4f9:2b:c83::2

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        • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

          @narthur A subdomain is just fine, yes!

          narthur@hachyderm.ioN This user is from outside of this forum
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          #24

          @JulianOliver ok. So what do I do? Just point them at those IPs?

          If they all share the same IP, won’t that make them easy to block?

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          • narthur@hachyderm.ioN narthur@hachyderm.io

            @JulianOliver ok. So what do I do? Just point them at those IPs?

            If they all share the same IP, won’t that make them easy to block?

            narthur@hachyderm.ioN This user is from outside of this forum
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            #25

            @JulianOliver poetry.rainskit.com and poetry.narthur.com. But the 'http' versions just give an nginx welcome page, and the https versions don't have valid SSL. Maybe you want CNAMEs instead? Or reverse proxies? And do you need some other page to link to those domains?

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            • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

              @futuresprog Great, and yes.. precisely!

              Here you go:

              A: 95.216.76.85
              AAAA: 2a01:4f9:2b:c83::2

              twilliability@genart.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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              #26

              @JulianOliver Just added a pair of records for a .eu domain. I'll let it lapse in August; it can do some good work until then.

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              • twilliability@genart.socialT twilliability@genart.social

                @JulianOliver Just added a pair of records for a .eu domain. I'll let it lapse in August; it can do some good work until then.

                julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                julianoliver@mastodon.social
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                #27

                @twilliability Great, thanks a lot!

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                • narthur@hachyderm.ioN narthur@hachyderm.io

                  @JulianOliver ok. So what do I do? Just point them at those IPs?

                  If they all share the same IP, won’t that make them easy to block?

                  julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  julianoliver@mastodon.social
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                  #28

                  @narthur For now they would all share the same IP.

                  Both domain and IP are naturally able to be filtered at the crawler end, but as numerous sites can be hosted behind one IP, it is my belief that they will drop a domain first.

                  Further, it's my hope to have instances of the project running on other dedicated hosts down the road.

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                  • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                    Do you have an unused domain that you would be happy to donate to a counter-offensive against unchecked & unregulated AI crawlers that scrape human-made content to simulate & deceive for profit?

                    If so, pls reply to this post. Your domain would become an entrypoint to the AI tarpit & Poison-as-a-Service project below, allowing concerned public to choose to use it on their sites, helping make the project more resilient to blacklisting.

                    https://julianoliver.com/projects/science-is-poetry/

                    #ai #bigtech #tacticalmedia

                    lazzarello@mastodon.teamnerds.coolL This user is from outside of this forum
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                    lazzarello@mastodon.teamnerds.cool
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                    #29

                    @JulianOliver im down. What's the first step?

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                    • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      julianoliver@mastodon.social
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                      #30

                      @lightweight Thanks again Dave, I'm going to have some homework today adding all these beaut new domains

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                      • lazzarello@mastodon.teamnerds.coolL lazzarello@mastodon.teamnerds.cool

                        @JulianOliver im down. What's the first step?

                        julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        julianoliver@mastodon.social
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                        #31

                        @lazzarello

                        Thanks for joining in!

                        If you could just add these two records for the domain you wish to gift, and then let me know the domain (either DM or public) once done 🙂

                        A: 95.216.76.85
                        AAAA: 2a01:4f9:2b:c83::2

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                        • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                          Do you have an unused domain that you would be happy to donate to a counter-offensive against unchecked & unregulated AI crawlers that scrape human-made content to simulate & deceive for profit?

                          If so, pls reply to this post. Your domain would become an entrypoint to the AI tarpit & Poison-as-a-Service project below, allowing concerned public to choose to use it on their sites, helping make the project more resilient to blacklisting.

                          https://julianoliver.com/projects/science-is-poetry/

                          #ai #bigtech #tacticalmedia

                          julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                          julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                          julianoliver@mastodon.social
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                          #32

                          A bit over half a million page reads a day by crawlers rn. Just to say the server is doing some good work.

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                          • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                            Do you have an unused domain that you would be happy to donate to a counter-offensive against unchecked & unregulated AI crawlers that scrape human-made content to simulate & deceive for profit?

                            If so, pls reply to this post. Your domain would become an entrypoint to the AI tarpit & Poison-as-a-Service project below, allowing concerned public to choose to use it on their sites, helping make the project more resilient to blacklisting.

                            https://julianoliver.com/projects/science-is-poetry/

                            #ai #bigtech #tacticalmedia

                            theholypumpkin@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                            theholypumpkin@mastodon.social
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                            #33

                            @JulianOliver looking through the replies I'll happily point a subdomain to the provided A-Record my old e-mail address domain is just barely used for the few accounts which don't allow me to change the address.

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                            • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                              Do you have an unused domain that you would be happy to donate to a counter-offensive against unchecked & unregulated AI crawlers that scrape human-made content to simulate & deceive for profit?

                              If so, pls reply to this post. Your domain would become an entrypoint to the AI tarpit & Poison-as-a-Service project below, allowing concerned public to choose to use it on their sites, helping make the project more resilient to blacklisting.

                              https://julianoliver.com/projects/science-is-poetry/

                              #ai #bigtech #tacticalmedia

                              mro@digitalcourage.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              mro@digitalcourage.social
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #34

                              Hi @JulianOliver,
                              pick subdomains of mro1.de and tell me where to point the DNS.

                              Edit: just saw the DNS records above, I will set up some and follow up here later today.

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                              • mro@digitalcourage.socialM mro@digitalcourage.social

                                Hi @JulianOliver,
                                pick subdomains of mro1.de and tell me where to point the DNS.

                                Edit: just saw the DNS records above, I will set up some and follow up here later today.

                                julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                julianoliver@mastodon.social
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #35

                                @mro

                                How about 'carrot'?

                                A: 95.216.76.85
                                AAAA: 2a01:4f9:2b:c83::2

                                Thanks a lot!

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                                • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                                  @narthur For now they would all share the same IP.

                                  Both domain and IP are naturally able to be filtered at the crawler end, but as numerous sites can be hosted behind one IP, it is my belief that they will drop a domain first.

                                  Further, it's my hope to have instances of the project running on other dedicated hosts down the road.

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                                  monochrome@social.critica.li
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                                  #36

                                  @JulianOliver @narthur It seems to me that it would be fairly easy for them to consider that the content is junk and to treat accordingly everything coming from the same IPs. They probably keep a log of where the content used to train the LLMs is coming from (maybe with some kind of hash / pseudonymous maneer), and likely have ways to reject content from the same server IF they detect a problem from several domains linked to this server. IMO a bunch of reverse proxies / various IPs could help : they might be dumb and make it easy to polute their dataset, but probably aren't.

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                                  • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                                    Do you have an unused domain that you would be happy to donate to a counter-offensive against unchecked & unregulated AI crawlers that scrape human-made content to simulate & deceive for profit?

                                    If so, pls reply to this post. Your domain would become an entrypoint to the AI tarpit & Poison-as-a-Service project below, allowing concerned public to choose to use it on their sites, helping make the project more resilient to blacklisting.

                                    https://julianoliver.com/projects/science-is-poetry/

                                    #ai #bigtech #tacticalmedia

                                    themadhatter@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    themadhatter@mastodon.social
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                                    #37

                                    @JulianOliver i have some unused. I'll let them point at A/AAAA you already mentioned. Do you need to know the exact domains?

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                                    • themadhatter@mastodon.socialT themadhatter@mastodon.social

                                      @JulianOliver i have some unused. I'll let them point at A/AAAA you already mentioned. Do you need to know the exact domains?

                                      julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      julianoliver@mastodon.social
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                                      #38

                                      @themadhatter Thank you! Yes knowing the domains would be needed. If you don't want the world to know they are yours, you can DM.

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                                      • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                                        @themadhatter Thank you! Yes knowing the domains would be needed. If you don't want the world to know they are yours, you can DM.

                                        themadhatter@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        themadhatter@mastodon.social
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                                        #39

                                        @JulianOliver will send you a send you a DM when ready.

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                                        • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                                          Do you have an unused domain that you would be happy to donate to a counter-offensive against unchecked & unregulated AI crawlers that scrape human-made content to simulate & deceive for profit?

                                          If so, pls reply to this post. Your domain would become an entrypoint to the AI tarpit & Poison-as-a-Service project below, allowing concerned public to choose to use it on their sites, helping make the project more resilient to blacklisting.

                                          https://julianoliver.com/projects/science-is-poetry/

                                          #ai #bigtech #tacticalmedia

                                          korkeala@hachyderm.ioK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          korkeala@hachyderm.io
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                                          #40

                                          @JulianOliver I set one .fi domain for this which was unused I was supposed to delete it already.

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