As expected.
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As expected. Water and power for nothing.
A landmark AI development billed as delivering jobs and prosperity has misrepresented its plans to channel a nuclear reactor’s worth of power to a site in rural Scotland, a Guardian investigation has found.
AI (or rather the sophisticated use of statistics and logic on large data sets) has many good uses - but the majority of the use is trivial and uneccesary
#AI #Water #Power #Environment #Infrastructure #EnergyPoverty
@Wen
Disgusting isn't it?We should feed humanity before we feed AI, which, arguably, isn't a "necessary" evil. Humans, if they're fed/watered/sheltered, are quite capable of thinking for themselves.
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As expected. Water and power for nothing.
A landmark AI development billed as delivering jobs and prosperity has misrepresented its plans to channel a nuclear reactor’s worth of power to a site in rural Scotland, a Guardian investigation has found.
AI (or rather the sophisticated use of statistics and logic on large data sets) has many good uses - but the majority of the use is trivial and uneccesary
#AI #Water #Power #Environment #Infrastructure #EnergyPoverty
@Wen I fail to see where any jobs or any local prosperity is going to come from with these things, except for nightwatchmen and cleaners. It’s not like they promise ‘local internet for local people’.
Or do all politicians just nod unquestioningly when the bullshit is rolled out?If there was an honest whole-life cost on these things, the huge negatives of unaffordable power and unattainable water for everyone else in the locality should cancel them immediately.
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@Wen I fail to see where any jobs or any local prosperity is going to come from with these things, except for nightwatchmen and cleaners. It’s not like they promise ‘local internet for local people’.
Or do all politicians just nod unquestioningly when the bullshit is rolled out?If there was an honest whole-life cost on these things, the huge negatives of unaffordable power and unattainable water for everyone else in the locality should cancel them immediately.
@BashStKid I suspect politicians are culpable of
- wilful ignorance with a good mix of stupidity
- a desire to be seen to be doing ‘something’
- a blind ‘faith’s GDP as a metric for wellbeing
- a promise of money for the area (not the ‘up to £500m promises - a small fraction of that will ever arrive in Lanarkshire)
- and in a small number of cases and expectation of personal gain when they retire -
As expected. Water and power for nothing.
A landmark AI development billed as delivering jobs and prosperity has misrepresented its plans to channel a nuclear reactor’s worth of power to a site in rural Scotland, a Guardian investigation has found.
AI (or rather the sophisticated use of statistics and logic on large data sets) has many good uses - but the majority of the use is trivial and uneccesary
#AI #Water #Power #Environment #Infrastructure #EnergyPoverty
@Wen Pray tell, what good uses...?
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@Wen Pray tell, what good uses...?
@jwcph To give a simple example, protein folding and drug discovery.
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@jwcph To give a simple example, protein folding and drug discovery.
@Wen Unfortunately, thanks to search being broken by the same companies lying about AI, I can't find the sources - but no. AI did not solve protein folding, nor did it discover any new, useful drugs. It's all just steps in a potentially (!) promising direction, overblown as revolutionary findings by the firms themselves & AI boosters.
I'm going to tag this, hoping somebody who bookmarked those sources like I failed to do might stumble across this thread.
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@BashStKid I suspect politicians are culpable of
- wilful ignorance with a good mix of stupidity
- a desire to be seen to be doing ‘something’
- a blind ‘faith’s GDP as a metric for wellbeing
- a promise of money for the area (not the ‘up to £500m promises - a small fraction of that will ever arrive in Lanarkshire)
- and in a small number of cases and expectation of personal gain when they retire@Wen@mastodon.scot @BashStKid@mastodon.online
Politicians only think in time-spans revolving around when they will be held directly responsible. Compounded by the facts that the majority are barely tech literate, while those that are clued up are in on the scam. -
As expected. Water and power for nothing.
A landmark AI development billed as delivering jobs and prosperity has misrepresented its plans to channel a nuclear reactor’s worth of power to a site in rural Scotland, a Guardian investigation has found.
AI (or rather the sophisticated use of statistics and logic on large data sets) has many good uses - but the majority of the use is trivial and uneccesary
#AI #Water #Power #Environment #Infrastructure #EnergyPoverty
@Wen
I believe CoreWeave are top of Ed Zitron's list of companies likely to go under should the LLM-based AI bubble stop growing (never mind burst).
A 1GW AI datacentre will cost well over £40 billion, of which 3/4 goes on computer hardware with a useful life of around 3 years.
In the USA, the data centres being built have financial backing based on signed customer commitments to buy most/all of the available compute resource. Who are the confirmed customers here ? -
@Wen Unfortunately, thanks to search being broken by the same companies lying about AI, I can't find the sources - but no. AI did not solve protein folding, nor did it discover any new, useful drugs. It's all just steps in a potentially (!) promising direction, overblown as revolutionary findings by the firms themselves & AI boosters.
I'm going to tag this, hoping somebody who bookmarked those sources like I failed to do might stumble across this thread.
@jwcph Admittedly from DeepMind - hardly a disinterested source, but
https://deepmind.google/blog/alphafold-a-solution-to-a-50-year-old-grand-challenge-in-biology/
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Headlines are misleading, but this could and probably will be very important in developing new drugs. It is just that ‘intelligence does not come in to it.
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As expected. Water and power for nothing.
A landmark AI development billed as delivering jobs and prosperity has misrepresented its plans to channel a nuclear reactor’s worth of power to a site in rural Scotland, a Guardian investigation has found.
AI (or rather the sophisticated use of statistics and logic on large data sets) has many good uses - but the majority of the use is trivial and uneccesary
#AI #Water #Power #Environment #Infrastructure #EnergyPoverty
@Wen I think the real purpose of these data centres is to produce so much heat that global warming escalates to the point that it kills 90-95% of the planets population
Hopefully before crossing a tipping point making the change permanent
Oligarchs will weather this out in their bunkers & turn off the data centres when the population is reduced sufficiently
Then they'll emerge when the planet cools enough for them to rule what's left of us
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@Wen I think the real purpose of these data centres is to produce so much heat that global warming escalates to the point that it kills 90-95% of the planets population
Hopefully before crossing a tipping point making the change permanent
Oligarchs will weather this out in their bunkers & turn off the data centres when the population is reduced sufficiently
Then they'll emerge when the planet cools enough for them to rule what's left of us
@staringatclouds Or be the a source of fatty meat?
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@staringatclouds Or be the a source of fatty meat?
@Wen They have meat printers for the extremely wealthy
They don't need to eat us, just cull the herd
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@jwcph Admittedly from DeepMind - hardly a disinterested source, but
https://deepmind.google/blog/alphafold-a-solution-to-a-50-year-old-grand-challenge-in-biology/
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Headlines are misleading, but this could and probably will be very important in developing new drugs. It is just that ‘intelligence does not come in to it.
@Wen "could". Also, AI as a source to the claim that AI is useful. What I'm saying is, fuck all the way off with this as evidence of anything.