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  • wen@mastodon.scotW wen@mastodon.scot

    As expected. Water and power for nothing.

    A landmark AI development billed as delivering jobs and prosperity has misrepresented its plans to channel a nuclear reactor’s worth of power to a site in rural Scotland, a Guardian investigation has found.

    AI (or rather the sophisticated use of statistics and logic on large data sets) has many good uses - but the majority of the use is trivial and uneccesary

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jul/06/lanarkshire-scotland-ai-datacentre-project-renewable-energy

    #AI #Water #Power #Environment #Infrastructure #EnergyPoverty

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    #5

    @Wen Pray tell, what good uses...?

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    • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

      @Wen Pray tell, what good uses...?

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      #6

      @jwcph To give a simple example, protein folding and drug discovery.

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      • wen@mastodon.scotW wen@mastodon.scot

        @jwcph To give a simple example, protein folding and drug discovery.

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        #7

        @Wen Unfortunately, thanks to search being broken by the same companies lying about AI, I can't find the sources - but no. AI did not solve protein folding, nor did it discover any new, useful drugs. It's all just steps in a potentially (!) promising direction, overblown as revolutionary findings by the firms themselves & AI boosters.

        I'm going to tag this, hoping somebody who bookmarked those sources like I failed to do might stumble across this thread.

        #AI

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        • wen@mastodon.scotW wen@mastodon.scot

          @BashStKid I suspect politicians are culpable of
          - wilful ignorance with a good mix of stupidity
          - a desire to be seen to be doing ‘something’
          - a blind ‘faith’s GDP as a metric for wellbeing
          - a promise of money for the area (not the ‘up to £500m promises - a small fraction of that will ever arrive in Lanarkshire)
          - and in a small number of cases and expectation of personal gain when they retire

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          #8

          @Wen@mastodon.scot @BashStKid@mastodon.online
          Politicians only think in time-spans revolving around when they will be held directly responsible. Compounded by the facts that the majority are barely tech literate, while those that are clued up are in on the scam.

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          • wen@mastodon.scotW wen@mastodon.scot

            As expected. Water and power for nothing.

            A landmark AI development billed as delivering jobs and prosperity has misrepresented its plans to channel a nuclear reactor’s worth of power to a site in rural Scotland, a Guardian investigation has found.

            AI (or rather the sophisticated use of statistics and logic on large data sets) has many good uses - but the majority of the use is trivial and uneccesary

            https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jul/06/lanarkshire-scotland-ai-datacentre-project-renewable-energy

            #AI #Water #Power #Environment #Infrastructure #EnergyPoverty

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            #9

            @Wen
            I believe CoreWeave are top of Ed Zitron's list of companies likely to go under should the LLM-based AI bubble stop growing (never mind burst).
            A 1GW AI datacentre will cost well over £40 billion, of which 3/4 goes on computer hardware with a useful life of around 3 years.
            In the USA, the data centres being built have financial backing based on signed customer commitments to buy most/all of the available compute resource. Who are the confirmed customers here ?

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            • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

              @Wen Unfortunately, thanks to search being broken by the same companies lying about AI, I can't find the sources - but no. AI did not solve protein folding, nor did it discover any new, useful drugs. It's all just steps in a potentially (!) promising direction, overblown as revolutionary findings by the firms themselves & AI boosters.

              I'm going to tag this, hoping somebody who bookmarked those sources like I failed to do might stumble across this thread.

              #AI

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              #10

              @jwcph Admittedly from DeepMind - hardly a disinterested source, but

              https://deepmind.google/blog/alphafold-a-solution-to-a-50-year-old-grand-challenge-in-biology/

              and

              https://medicine.iu.edu/blogs/research-updates/the-protein-folding-problem-the-day-ai-unlocked-a-secret-of-life

              Headlines are misleading, but this could and probably will be very important in developing new drugs. It is just that ‘intelligence does not come in to it.

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              • wen@mastodon.scotW wen@mastodon.scot

                As expected. Water and power for nothing.

                A landmark AI development billed as delivering jobs and prosperity has misrepresented its plans to channel a nuclear reactor’s worth of power to a site in rural Scotland, a Guardian investigation has found.

                AI (or rather the sophisticated use of statistics and logic on large data sets) has many good uses - but the majority of the use is trivial and uneccesary

                https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jul/06/lanarkshire-scotland-ai-datacentre-project-renewable-energy

                #AI #Water #Power #Environment #Infrastructure #EnergyPoverty

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                #11

                @Wen I think the real purpose of these data centres is to produce so much heat that global warming escalates to the point that it kills 90-95% of the planets population

                Hopefully before crossing a tipping point making the change permanent

                Oligarchs will weather this out in their bunkers & turn off the data centres when the population is reduced sufficiently

                Then they'll emerge when the planet cools enough for them to rule what's left of us

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                • staringatclouds@mstdn.socialS staringatclouds@mstdn.social

                  @Wen I think the real purpose of these data centres is to produce so much heat that global warming escalates to the point that it kills 90-95% of the planets population

                  Hopefully before crossing a tipping point making the change permanent

                  Oligarchs will weather this out in their bunkers & turn off the data centres when the population is reduced sufficiently

                  Then they'll emerge when the planet cools enough for them to rule what's left of us

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                  #12

                  @staringatclouds Or be the a source of fatty meat?

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                  • wen@mastodon.scotW wen@mastodon.scot

                    @staringatclouds Or be the a source of fatty meat?

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                    #13

                    @Wen They have meat printers for the extremely wealthy

                    They don't need to eat us, just cull the herd

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                    • wen@mastodon.scotW wen@mastodon.scot

                      @jwcph Admittedly from DeepMind - hardly a disinterested source, but

                      https://deepmind.google/blog/alphafold-a-solution-to-a-50-year-old-grand-challenge-in-biology/

                      and

                      https://medicine.iu.edu/blogs/research-updates/the-protein-folding-problem-the-day-ai-unlocked-a-secret-of-life

                      Headlines are misleading, but this could and probably will be very important in developing new drugs. It is just that ‘intelligence does not come in to it.

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                      #14

                      @Wen "could". Also, AI as a source to the claim that AI is useful. What I'm saying is, fuck all the way off with this as evidence of anything.

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