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  3. There are a lot of reasons for the downfall of the #USA but a big one is the purchase of traditional #media by plutocrat goons

There are a lot of reasons for the downfall of the #USA but a big one is the purchase of traditional #media by plutocrat goons

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  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

    There are a lot of reasons for the downfall of the #USA but a big one is the purchase of traditional #media by plutocrat goons

    Look at this fucking shit:

    sarae@ecoevo.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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    #25

    @benroyce my ancestors left Prussia and Alsace because people kept saying shit like this

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      There are a lot of reasons for the downfall of the #USA but a big one is the purchase of traditional #media by plutocrat goons

      Look at this fucking shit:

      arcmother@kolektiva.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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      #26

      @benroyce @jwcph just... So evil.

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      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

        There are a lot of reasons for the downfall of the #USA but a big one is the purchase of traditional #media by plutocrat goons

        Look at this fucking shit:

        searingtruth@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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        #27

        @benroyce

        "I'm still amazed at how quickly Trump and Putin transformed the once proud and noble Party of Lincoln into just another simple rabble of seditious and treasonous playground bullies.

        I'm not kidding, it really is startling and amazing. I mean my goodness, it only took two or three years."
        SearingTruth

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        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

          There are a lot of reasons for the downfall of the #USA but a big one is the purchase of traditional #media by plutocrat goons

          Look at this fucking shit:

          riley@toot.catR This user is from outside of this forum
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          #28

          @benroyce Hey, he's got a point. Wars are the one reliable reason to extract and recirculate wealth hoarded by sillionaires that they're relatively powerless to lobby agains, and this recirculation of stagnant wealth can, indeed, make everybody richer.

          Of course, we could be even safer and richer if we recirculated the stagnant money without having any wars.

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          • nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.socialN nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social

            @benroyce No one wants to click. I don't blame any of you. Here is an archive.ph link: https://archive.ph/Uiu60

            Apparently it was written by Ian Morris who claimed to be a professor at Stanford back in 2014. Also, apparently Obama is an illegal president. Or so it says.

            Democracy dies in darkness alright — and they were at the forefront of trying to spread that darkness even back then.

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            #29

            @nazokiyoubinbou @benroyce

            Unrelated to the main topic but it's worth mentioning that archive.today have been doing some shady shit. I'd steer clear of them if for no other reason than to not risk being part of the botnet. Wikipedia recently banned them as a source because of that and them manipulating their archive.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archive.today

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            • boo_@im-in.spaceB boo_@im-in.space

              @nazokiyoubinbou @benroyce

              Unrelated to the main topic but it's worth mentioning that archive.today have been doing some shady shit. I'd steer clear of them if for no other reason than to not risk being part of the botnet. Wikipedia recently banned them as a source because of that and them manipulating their archive.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archive.today

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              #30

              @boo_ @benroyce I don't particularly trust or like them, but what the heck else can I use?

              No archive.org doesn't work the same. It seems to be pickier about saving pages (well, an older one like that might be in there, but often new stuff isn't. And there seem to be a lot of limits on getting them to actually archive something at will.) Sometimes one just wants a quick little snapshot of some dumb news article that isn't worth truly saving.

              This one doesn't *deserve* archive.org really...

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              • thias@mastodon.socialT thias@mastodon.social

                @benroyce if only there was a country that avoided wars for many years, we could then check if it’s much poorer as the surrounding ones.
                I suppose a small neutral one in Europe that was poor in the 19th century could do the trick. Sadly that does not exist.

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                #31

                @thias @benroyce Sweden

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                • nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.socialN nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social

                  @boo_ @benroyce I don't particularly trust or like them, but what the heck else can I use?

                  No archive.org doesn't work the same. It seems to be pickier about saving pages (well, an older one like that might be in there, but often new stuff isn't. And there seem to be a lot of limits on getting them to actually archive something at will.) Sometimes one just wants a quick little snapshot of some dumb news article that isn't worth truly saving.

                  This one doesn't *deserve* archive.org really...

                  nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #32

                  @boo_ @benroyce (BTW I'm not being sarcastic. If you know of anything else I can use I'd be super grateful. The main catch is it has to be able to handle those stupid "give us your email address or we won't release the rest of the article" popups.)

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                  • nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.socialN nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social

                    @boo_ @benroyce I don't particularly trust or like them, but what the heck else can I use?

                    No archive.org doesn't work the same. It seems to be pickier about saving pages (well, an older one like that might be in there, but often new stuff isn't. And there seem to be a lot of limits on getting them to actually archive something at will.) Sometimes one just wants a quick little snapshot of some dumb news article that isn't worth truly saving.

                    This one doesn't *deserve* archive.org really...

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                    #33

                    @nazokiyoubinbou @benroyce

                    Yeah, I don't think there really is an alternative yet, but I just thought it'd be worth mentioning so people know the potential risks given the history of the site and are able to make informed decisions about whether to use it. The DDOS thing is not something you'd know unless you read about it or checked your browser console, for example.

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                    • boo_@im-in.spaceB boo_@im-in.space

                      @nazokiyoubinbou @benroyce

                      Yeah, I don't think there really is an alternative yet, but I just thought it'd be worth mentioning so people know the potential risks given the history of the site and are able to make informed decisions about whether to use it. The DDOS thing is not something you'd know unless you read about it or checked your browser console, for example.

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                      #34

                      @boo_ @benroyce Well, I think a lot of us heard about Wikipedia banning them. That was kind of big.

                      I'm mostly using them for crapsites like Washington Post that deserve to see as few accesses as possible (and better still, for those to be to something like that instead of to an actual user.) Actually... if they wanted to DDoS washington post I think I might just look the other way... 🤫

                      (Like even if they serve Russia, frankly WP serves Russia too...)

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