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  3. World War II was the deadliest conflict in human history, resulting in an estimated 70 to 85 million total fatalities..

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  • netraven@hear-me.socialN netraven@hear-me.social

    @stux I think the problem is that people remain epistemically committed to the idea that all communication is dialogue, and therefore part of some possible exchange.

    But fascism, sexism, hatred, and similar forms of expression are not simply bad arguments within communication. As modes of communication, they do not really exist. They are failures of communication: a collapse of conceptual boundaries that determines, before any exchange can occur, which thoughts can be reached and felt as truth, while everything else is reduced to noise.

    This is not something that can be debated, nor does it deserve a forum for debate, because the conditions for good-faith communication have already been destroyed.

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    #11

    @Netraven @stux

    no intolerance

    unless we're dealing with the intolerant

    no insensitivity

    unless we're dealing with the insensitive

    no violence

    unless we're dealing with the violent

    many people need to learn this

    especially "polite society" types who clutch their pearls if someone says "fuck." but they will let a vile bigoted lie pass if said serenely

    society is either protected, or it isn't

    it falls upon all of us to do the protecting, not for us to defer to some other entity to do so

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    • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

      World War II was the deadliest conflict in human history, resulting in an estimated 70 to 85 million total fatalities..

      Only 80 years has passed and currently our political climate accepts parties that refuse to say they won't allow nazi's

      Looking at you AfD, FvD, Republican Party and so on

      If a party refuses to even bans Nazi's they should not have a place in the political spectrum

      Don't argue or debate with Nazi's, ever

      #iRefuse

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      #12

      @stux We should be treating paramilitary Nazi groups* in May 2026 the same way we treated them after VE Day in May 1945. Same with the CSA Lost Causers rallying under Confederal Battle flags.

      *literal self-described Nazis with all the trappings of the Hitler regime.

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        #13

        @PetterOfCats @stux clean the transport buffer of nazis

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        • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

          World War II was the deadliest conflict in human history, resulting in an estimated 70 to 85 million total fatalities..

          Only 80 years has passed and currently our political climate accepts parties that refuse to say they won't allow nazi's

          Looking at you AfD, FvD, Republican Party and so on

          If a party refuses to even bans Nazi's they should not have a place in the political spectrum

          Don't argue or debate with Nazi's, ever

          #iRefuse

          toresimonsen@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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          #14

          This is not a joke. I need help. I protect witnesses because of the killers involved. #christian nationalist #terrorist #extremists plan to attack #orlando. Stop them. Call Officer Wayne White at the Orlando Police Department. They plan to pin the attack on me.
          https://youtu.be/bvS_FXjeM_M

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          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

            @Netraven @stux

            no intolerance

            unless we're dealing with the intolerant

            no insensitivity

            unless we're dealing with the insensitive

            no violence

            unless we're dealing with the violent

            many people need to learn this

            especially "polite society" types who clutch their pearls if someone says "fuck." but they will let a vile bigoted lie pass if said serenely

            society is either protected, or it isn't

            it falls upon all of us to do the protecting, not for us to defer to some other entity to do so

            log@mastodon.sdf.orgL This user is from outside of this forum
            log@mastodon.sdf.orgL This user is from outside of this forum
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            #15

            @benroyce @Netraven @stux It's the social contract. It only protects you if you sign on. That puts a burden on the casual observer to verify non-adherence, but the fash are pretty open about not granting rights outside of their own tribe, so they are very easy to punch.

            They understand the assignment. Everything good goes to loyal fascists, and everything bad to those outside their boundary of membership.

            We of cooperative civilization need to pull in our benefits, away from our attackers.

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            • log@mastodon.sdf.orgL log@mastodon.sdf.org

              @benroyce @Netraven @stux It's the social contract. It only protects you if you sign on. That puts a burden on the casual observer to verify non-adherence, but the fash are pretty open about not granting rights outside of their own tribe, so they are very easy to punch.

              They understand the assignment. Everything good goes to loyal fascists, and everything bad to those outside their boundary of membership.

              We of cooperative civilization need to pull in our benefits, away from our attackers.

              log@mastodon.sdf.orgL This user is from outside of this forum
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              #16

              @benroyce @Netraven @stux Our disadvantage in this is that we have extensive procedures for adopting and assimilating outsiders, and for correcting and rehabilitating renegades. The fash have subverted these. They do not realize those procedures are there to protect people from arbitrary eviction from civilization.

              They think being above the law is good. It is not. It places one outside the boundary. A non-adherent to the contract.

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              • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                World War II was the deadliest conflict in human history, resulting in an estimated 70 to 85 million total fatalities..

                Only 80 years has passed and currently our political climate accepts parties that refuse to say they won't allow nazi's

                Looking at you AfD, FvD, Republican Party and so on

                If a party refuses to even bans Nazi's they should not have a place in the political spectrum

                Don't argue or debate with Nazi's, ever

                #iRefuse

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                #17

                @stux as Jair Dominguez said "Fascism, Nazis, has to be treated with a punch in the mouth". Somehow, Vox, spanish version of the AfD, took the hint, and now he is being prosecuted by Spanish "justice", so I guess they really never left power

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                • log@mastodon.sdf.orgL log@mastodon.sdf.org

                  @benroyce @Netraven @stux Our disadvantage in this is that we have extensive procedures for adopting and assimilating outsiders, and for correcting and rehabilitating renegades. The fash have subverted these. They do not realize those procedures are there to protect people from arbitrary eviction from civilization.

                  They think being above the law is good. It is not. It places one outside the boundary. A non-adherent to the contract.

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                  #18

                  @benroyce @Netraven @stux Going to trial, then serving a carceral term in prison is the kind outcome for many crimes. If you opt out of that, you might just be summarily executed. By anyone who gets an opportunity. Outlaw means you aren't one of us, and no one will stand to defend your case.

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                  • enema_cowboy@dotnet.socialE enema_cowboy@dotnet.social

                    @stux We should be treating paramilitary Nazi groups* in May 2026 the same way we treated them after VE Day in May 1945. Same with the CSA Lost Causers rallying under Confederal Battle flags.

                    *literal self-described Nazis with all the trappings of the Hitler regime.

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                    #19

                    @Enema_Cowboy @stux Couldn't we treat them the way we did the day *before* VE Day?

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                    • log@mastodon.sdf.orgL log@mastodon.sdf.org

                      @benroyce @Netraven @stux Going to trial, then serving a carceral term in prison is the kind outcome for many crimes. If you opt out of that, you might just be summarily executed. By anyone who gets an opportunity. Outlaw means you aren't one of us, and no one will stand to defend your case.

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                      #20

                      @benroyce @Netraven @stux To TL;DR: this, we cannot allow anyone to use the infrastructure of civilization to destroy civilization.

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                      • sonikku@techhub.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #21

                        @PetterOfCats @stux @benroyce

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                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                          @Netraven @stux

                          no intolerance

                          unless we're dealing with the intolerant

                          no insensitivity

                          unless we're dealing with the insensitive

                          no violence

                          unless we're dealing with the violent

                          many people need to learn this

                          especially "polite society" types who clutch their pearls if someone says "fuck." but they will let a vile bigoted lie pass if said serenely

                          society is either protected, or it isn't

                          it falls upon all of us to do the protecting, not for us to defer to some other entity to do so

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                          #22

                          @benroyce @Netraven Perhaps we need to say fuck a little more often..

                          In the context of ‘fuck off’ to nazi’s, billionaires, dictators etc

                          I’m not going to be polite when so much is at stake, they should be glad we’re not coming for them in the literal sense

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                          • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                            World War II was the deadliest conflict in human history, resulting in an estimated 70 to 85 million total fatalities..

                            Only 80 years has passed and currently our political climate accepts parties that refuse to say they won't allow nazi's

                            Looking at you AfD, FvD, Republican Party and so on

                            If a party refuses to even bans Nazi's they should not have a place in the political spectrum

                            Don't argue or debate with Nazi's, ever

                            #iRefuse

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                            #23

                            @stux and if you absolutely have to, eat their frame.
                            https://anthonymoser.github.io/writing/rhetoric/framing/kirby/2026/01/28/the-kirby-frame.html

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                            • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                              World War II was the deadliest conflict in human history, resulting in an estimated 70 to 85 million total fatalities..

                              Only 80 years has passed and currently our political climate accepts parties that refuse to say they won't allow nazi's

                              Looking at you AfD, FvD, Republican Party and so on

                              If a party refuses to even bans Nazi's they should not have a place in the political spectrum

                              Don't argue or debate with Nazi's, ever

                              #iRefuse

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                              #24

                              @stux There is no place nor tolerance in democratic discussion for movements whose aims are to end the democratic discussion.

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                              • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                                @benroyce @Netraven Perhaps we need to say fuck a little more often..

                                In the context of ‘fuck off’ to nazi’s, billionaires, dictators etc

                                I’m not going to be polite when so much is at stake, they should be glad we’re not coming for them in the literal sense

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                                #25

                                @stux @benroyce @Netraven I don't think I've said Fuck AI yet today. Fuck AI.

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