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  3. We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community.

We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community.

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  • autisticplushy@lgbtqia.spaceA autisticplushy@lgbtqia.space

    @lutindiscret @Gargron I wish Matrix worked at all

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    #48

    @autisticplushy @lutindiscret @Gargron with #Matrix, one-one-one chat is decent; it's just the group chats which have a poor track record of reliability over the years.

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    • athayes@mas.toA athayes@mas.to

      @Gargron Will it affect anything other than NSFW tagging?

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      #49

      @athayes@mas.to @Gargron@mastodon.social It shouldn't but it does give them access to scan and look through more posts especially media, we've had it in the UK for a while now and we've had data leaks and lots of problems with this system, highly suggest finding a new place.

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      • d1@autistics.lifeD d1@autistics.life

        @autisticplushy @lutindiscret @Gargron with #Matrix, one-one-one chat is decent; it's just the group chats which have a poor track record of reliability over the years.

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        #50

        @d1 @lutindiscret @Gargron My one on one usually get's messages lost.

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        • autisticplushy@lgbtqia.spaceA autisticplushy@lgbtqia.space

          @d1 @lutindiscret @Gargron My one on one usually get's messages lost.

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          #51

          @autisticplushy @lutindiscret @Gargron oh really? Didn't know... thanks

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          • kerfuffle@mastodon.onlineK kerfuffle@mastodon.online

            @Gargron Selfhosted or in the (US) Zulip cloud?

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            #52
            @kerfuffle @Gargron Good question - and if the latter, how easy is it to export everything to a sovereign solution down the line?
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            • grishka@friends.grishka.meG grishka@friends.grishka.me

              I don't understand why all centralized services suddenly insist on actually verifying their users' age for real. What was wrong with asking for a birth date or even just presenting a "yes I'm 18 or older" button? NSFW websites somehow still do just fine with that, but Discord, which is much less "risky" in comparison, somehow needs real verification?

              Gosh I miss the old internet.

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              #53

              @grishka @Gargron

              It's going to kill them with the gaming community. Absolutely kill them.

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              • linuxandyarn@hachyderm.ioL linuxandyarn@hachyderm.io

                @Gargron I quit a writing group on Discord years ago when I noticed it was broadcasting every time I opened a game in steam, and wondered what other things it was spying on.

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                #54

                @linuxandyarn @Gargron I also caught Discord spying on a laptop of mine - while in sleep mode, in the middle of the night, Discord kept a laptop awake, churning hard. I heard the laptop fan whirring in the middle of the night, when it should have been silent. I determined it was #Discord, and uninstalled that motherfucker immediately. This was several years ago.

                #infosec

                Discord, fuck you

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                • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

                  RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                  We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community. The harder part will be untangling my gaming communities from this…

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                  #55

                  @Gargron Finally!

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                  • d1@autistics.lifeD d1@autistics.life

                    @linuxandyarn @Gargron I also caught Discord spying on a laptop of mine - while in sleep mode, in the middle of the night, Discord kept a laptop awake, churning hard. I heard the laptop fan whirring in the middle of the night, when it should have been silent. I determined it was #Discord, and uninstalled that motherfucker immediately. This was several years ago.

                    #infosec

                    Discord, fuck you

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                    #56

                    @d1 @Gargron Hm, now I wonder if this is why my wife's Windows laptop woke me at 4am a couple weeks ago. I thought it was just a side effect of patch Tuesday.

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                    • linuxandyarn@hachyderm.ioL linuxandyarn@hachyderm.io

                      @d1 @Gargron Hm, now I wonder if this is why my wife's Windows laptop woke me at 4am a couple weeks ago. I thought it was just a side effect of patch Tuesday.

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                      #57

                      @linuxandyarn @Gargron It was a #linux install of #Discord in my case, just saying.

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                      • d1@autistics.lifeD d1@autistics.life

                        @lutindiscret @Gargron @lefteristrip23 I beg of you: not #Matrix, for anything persisting and serious *when it comes to group chat*. Has a history of exploding chat rooms, every few years or so. Track record is not good.

                        #Zulip is today's much more sane choice, as a place to escape to, fleeing #Discord. 👍

                        BTW: I'm willing to set up/maintain Zulip servers, *but for a price*.

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                        #58

                        @d1 @lutindiscret @Gargron @lefteristrip23 FWIW Zulip cloud offers free hosting for communities that qualify.

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                        • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

                          RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                          We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community. The harder part will be untangling my gaming communities from this…

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                          #59

                          @Gargron I get that Discord has a major pedophile problem, but privacy is also important.

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                          • amazing_helenab@mastodon.socialA amazing_helenab@mastodon.social

                            @Gargron I get that Discord has a major pedophile problem, but privacy is also important.

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                            #60

                            @amazing_helenab@mastodon.social This is why people should look at moving, why should our privacy be taken away just because of some countries like the UK with there Online Safety Act removing our Privacy for data collecting hidden as protecting children

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                            • aplundell@timeloop.cafeA aplundell@timeloop.cafe

                              @Gargron Edit: I didn't realize that Zulip is Open-Source. So, corporate, maybe, but not closed source.

                              Original Toot :

                              Isn't there a non-corporate solution?

                              There's more than a little unfortunate irony in the Mastodon team jumping ship from Discord to another corporate provider that just hasn't entered its enshitification phase yet.

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                              #61

                              @apLundell does corporate mean the project is controlled by a company

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                              • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

                                RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                                We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community. The harder part will be untangling my gaming communities from this…

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                                #62

                                @Gargron I only have Discord accounts bc starting in 2020 seniors in my youth group used one to host engagement during lock down. Six years later they are off to college or work and those who came after have not mentioned Discord at all. So is seems Discord is (fill in the blank) for old people anyway.

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                                • mischa@social.oc.isM mischa@social.oc.is

                                  @Gargron Zulip doesn’t have voice right? What are you using as an alternative for that?

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                                  #63

                                  @mischa @Gargron It has integration (meaning: it will create an URL to a random meeting room) for Jitsi Meet, which works well for us

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                                  • mischa@social.oc.isM mischa@social.oc.is

                                    @Gargron Zulip doesn’t have voice right? What are you using as an alternative for that?

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                                    #64

                                    @mischa it uses jitsi by default

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                                    • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

                                      RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                                      We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community. The harder part will be untangling my gaming communities from this…

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                                      #65

                                      @Gargron Discord is just the canary in the coal mine. Soon, all Internet communities will face a choice - either ID everyone or be banned in many countries. Internet anonymity is dead. All because of a couple of despotic regimes that want to be the parents of our children and want to have full control and surveillance over communities that might have "subversive" (i.e., antigovernmental) thoughts. Sometimes I'm glad that I won't live long enough to see it accomplished...

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                                      • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

                                        RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                                        We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community. The harder part will be untangling my gaming communities from this…

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                                        #66

                                        @Gargron Excellent. We have been using @zulip since the Covid pandemic suddenly convinced people that working from home was feasible, after all.

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                                        • csolisr@hub.azkware.netC csolisr@hub.azkware.net
                                          @kerfuffle @Gargron Good question - and if the latter, how easy is it to export everything to a sovereign solution down the line?
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                                          #67

                                          @csolisr
                                          I have not done this myself, but here are docs
                                          https://zulip.com/help/cloud-to-self-hosting
                                          @Gargron @kerfuffle

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