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We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community.

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  • lefteristrip23@mastodon.socialL lefteristrip23@mastodon.social

    @Gargron why not matrix?

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    #41

    @lefteristrip23 Far from 1:1 feature parity. No integrated voice or video in most implementations (leveraging Jitsi or something similar in many cases) is a big knock against Matrix.

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    • grishka@friends.grishka.meG grishka@friends.grishka.me

      I don't understand why all centralized services suddenly insist on actually verifying their users' age for real. What was wrong with asking for a birth date or even just presenting a "yes I'm 18 or older" button? NSFW websites somehow still do just fine with that, but Discord, which is much less "risky" in comparison, somehow needs real verification?

      Gosh I miss the old internet.

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      #42

      @grishka "for the children" /s

      It's because they want to know who you are, and they want to be able to attribute you to other services where this identity is known to build out their web of surveillance.

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      • lutindiscret@mastodon.libre-entreprise.comL lutindiscret@mastodon.libre-entreprise.com

        Reminder to anyone managing a #ActivityPub project that matrix has been adopted as the chat solution by bookwyrm, write.as, friendica, plume, pleroma, fedilab, funkwhale, mitra, forgefed, mobilizon, phanpy, tokodon, moshidon, lemmy, gotosocial, bonfire, voyager, tusky, lemmy, loops, piefed, pixelfed, manyfold, owncast and others. You don't need to start from scratch if you leave discord : join us on matrix!

        @Gargron

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        #43

        @lutindiscret @Gargron I wish Matrix worked at all

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        • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

          RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

          We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community. The harder part will be untangling my gaming communities from this…

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          #44

          @Gargron I guess I won't be able to call Felon 47 a brown bag full of manure anymore then.

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          • lutindiscret@mastodon.libre-entreprise.comL lutindiscret@mastodon.libre-entreprise.com

            Reminder to anyone managing a #ActivityPub project that matrix has been adopted as the chat solution by bookwyrm, write.as, friendica, plume, pleroma, fedilab, funkwhale, mitra, forgefed, mobilizon, phanpy, tokodon, moshidon, lemmy, gotosocial, bonfire, voyager, tusky, lemmy, loops, piefed, pixelfed, manyfold, owncast and others. You don't need to start from scratch if you leave discord : join us on matrix!

            @Gargron

            d1@autistics.lifeD This user is from outside of this forum
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            #45

            @lutindiscret @Gargron @lefteristrip23 I beg of you: not #Matrix, for anything persisting and serious *when it comes to group chat*. Has a history of exploding chat rooms, every few years or so. Track record is not good.

            #Zulip is today's much more sane choice, as a place to escape to, fleeing #Discord. 👍

            BTW: I'm willing to set up/maintain Zulip servers, *but for a price*.

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            • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

              RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

              We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community. The harder part will be untangling my gaming communities from this…

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              #46

              @Gargron I have an account, but haven't used it in a while. When I get told to do that I will respond with a full middle finger scan and a suggestion where they can stick it.

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              • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

                RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community. The harder part will be untangling my gaming communities from this…

                athayes@mas.toA This user is from outside of this forum
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                #47

                @Gargron Will it affect anything other than NSFW tagging?

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                • autisticplushy@lgbtqia.spaceA autisticplushy@lgbtqia.space

                  @lutindiscret @Gargron I wish Matrix worked at all

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                  #48

                  @autisticplushy @lutindiscret @Gargron with #Matrix, one-one-one chat is decent; it's just the group chats which have a poor track record of reliability over the years.

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                  • athayes@mas.toA athayes@mas.to

                    @Gargron Will it affect anything other than NSFW tagging?

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                    #49

                    @athayes@mas.to @Gargron@mastodon.social It shouldn't but it does give them access to scan and look through more posts especially media, we've had it in the UK for a while now and we've had data leaks and lots of problems with this system, highly suggest finding a new place.

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                    • d1@autistics.lifeD d1@autistics.life

                      @autisticplushy @lutindiscret @Gargron with #Matrix, one-one-one chat is decent; it's just the group chats which have a poor track record of reliability over the years.

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                      #50

                      @d1 @lutindiscret @Gargron My one on one usually get's messages lost.

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                      • autisticplushy@lgbtqia.spaceA autisticplushy@lgbtqia.space

                        @d1 @lutindiscret @Gargron My one on one usually get's messages lost.

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                        #51

                        @autisticplushy @lutindiscret @Gargron oh really? Didn't know... thanks

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                        • kerfuffle@mastodon.onlineK kerfuffle@mastodon.online

                          @Gargron Selfhosted or in the (US) Zulip cloud?

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                          #52
                          @kerfuffle @Gargron Good question - and if the latter, how easy is it to export everything to a sovereign solution down the line?
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                          • grishka@friends.grishka.meG grishka@friends.grishka.me

                            I don't understand why all centralized services suddenly insist on actually verifying their users' age for real. What was wrong with asking for a birth date or even just presenting a "yes I'm 18 or older" button? NSFW websites somehow still do just fine with that, but Discord, which is much less "risky" in comparison, somehow needs real verification?

                            Gosh I miss the old internet.

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                            #53

                            @grishka @Gargron

                            It's going to kill them with the gaming community. Absolutely kill them.

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                            • linuxandyarn@hachyderm.ioL linuxandyarn@hachyderm.io

                              @Gargron I quit a writing group on Discord years ago when I noticed it was broadcasting every time I opened a game in steam, and wondered what other things it was spying on.

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                              #54

                              @linuxandyarn @Gargron I also caught Discord spying on a laptop of mine - while in sleep mode, in the middle of the night, Discord kept a laptop awake, churning hard. I heard the laptop fan whirring in the middle of the night, when it should have been silent. I determined it was #Discord, and uninstalled that motherfucker immediately. This was several years ago.

                              #infosec

                              Discord, fuck you

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                              • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

                                RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                                We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community. The harder part will be untangling my gaming communities from this…

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                                #55

                                @Gargron Finally!

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                                • d1@autistics.lifeD d1@autistics.life

                                  @linuxandyarn @Gargron I also caught Discord spying on a laptop of mine - while in sleep mode, in the middle of the night, Discord kept a laptop awake, churning hard. I heard the laptop fan whirring in the middle of the night, when it should have been silent. I determined it was #Discord, and uninstalled that motherfucker immediately. This was several years ago.

                                  #infosec

                                  Discord, fuck you

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                                  #56

                                  @d1 @Gargron Hm, now I wonder if this is why my wife's Windows laptop woke me at 4am a couple weeks ago. I thought it was just a side effect of patch Tuesday.

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                                  • linuxandyarn@hachyderm.ioL linuxandyarn@hachyderm.io

                                    @d1 @Gargron Hm, now I wonder if this is why my wife's Windows laptop woke me at 4am a couple weeks ago. I thought it was just a side effect of patch Tuesday.

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                                    #57

                                    @linuxandyarn @Gargron It was a #linux install of #Discord in my case, just saying.

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                                    • d1@autistics.lifeD d1@autistics.life

                                      @lutindiscret @Gargron @lefteristrip23 I beg of you: not #Matrix, for anything persisting and serious *when it comes to group chat*. Has a history of exploding chat rooms, every few years or so. Track record is not good.

                                      #Zulip is today's much more sane choice, as a place to escape to, fleeing #Discord. 👍

                                      BTW: I'm willing to set up/maintain Zulip servers, *but for a price*.

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                                      #58

                                      @d1 @lutindiscret @Gargron @lefteristrip23 FWIW Zulip cloud offers free hosting for communities that qualify.

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                                      • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

                                        RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                                        We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community. The harder part will be untangling my gaming communities from this…

                                        amazing_helenab@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #59

                                        @Gargron I get that Discord has a major pedophile problem, but privacy is also important.

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                                        • amazing_helenab@mastodon.socialA amazing_helenab@mastodon.social

                                          @Gargron I get that Discord has a major pedophile problem, but privacy is also important.

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                                          #60

                                          @amazing_helenab@mastodon.social This is why people should look at moving, why should our privacy be taken away just because of some countries like the UK with there Online Safety Act removing our Privacy for data collecting hidden as protecting children

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