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  • footils@social.cologneF footils@social.cologne

    @jon People in Germany like to rant about Deutsche Bahn, they don't know SNCF/Eurostar ...

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    #57

    @footils @jon I used to tell them "at least you have trains, or at least an attempt to run them" and then I get to explain trains in Canada.

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    • uc@mastodon.scotU uc@mastodon.scot

      @jon

      Sometimes in the bar is the best place to be, only beaten by having service direct to your seat.

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      #58

      @uc @jon Some route still don't have bar service... unless you BYOB.

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      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

        @bentorfs Correct. I showed my ticket for the 09:46 at the barrier, and asked to go see the train manager. And am on the 11:51.

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        #59

        @jon That's good to know for the inevitable day that I'll be in that situation. I usually book with very large transfer times to avoid just that

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        • hub@cosocial.caH hub@cosocial.ca

          @uc @jon Some route still don't have bar service... unless you BYOB.

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          #60

          @hub @jon

          Upgrade, you know you want to....

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            #61

            @jon it can be late 2:30 hours and I'll be winning. (long connection for the ICE in Cologne)

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            • bentorfs@mastodon.socialB bentorfs@mastodon.social

              @jon That's good to know for the inevitable day that I'll be in that situation. I usually book with very large transfer times to avoid just that

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              #62

              @bentorfs I had a decent amount of time to transfer. But I was 2 hours 30 mins late into Paris! I didn’t give myself that much 🙂

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              • katti@chaos.socialK katti@chaos.social

                @jon but still there‘s heaps of people in countries Like Germany asking for compulsory reservations…

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                #63

                @Katti @jon compulsory reservations collapse at the first contact with disruption, because you face an almost empty train with no possibility of filling the seats as the passengers are all held up by the disruption.
                And then when the delayed passengers do appear, you refuse to carry them because they don’t have a reservation for that departure.

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                • bentorfs@mastodon.socialB bentorfs@mastodon.social

                  @jon So you wait before the closed barriers, waiting for attendants to show up, and then you ask them to get the train manager for you? I don't suppose you had a valid ticket to actually get next to the train before that

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                  #64

                  @bentorfs @jon in one case for me I had a first class ticket and the attendants told me to go to and enter the bistro car and wait for the train manager there

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                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                    And it is at moments like this that you realise that

                    COMPULSORY RESERVATION TRAINS ARE SHIT

                    I will happily stand the whole way from Paris to Liège, because better that than not getting there at all

                    But as the Eurostar is compulsory reservation I am likely not allowed on it

                    My need to get to my destination is higher than the mild inconvenience to some other passenger if I am standing beside them in an aisle

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                    #65

                    @jon i always assumed this was a liability / safety issue but yes, it is annoying.

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                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                      @bentorfs I had a decent amount of time to transfer. But I was 2 hours 30 mins late into Paris! I didn’t give myself that much 🙂

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                      #66

                      @jon Unfortunately my way to Paris involves unreliable TER and/or intercités, and many kilometers of track popular with sangliers and chevreuil. 2h30 doesn't seem so crazy

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                      • mvexel@en.osm.townM mvexel@en.osm.town

                        @jon i always assumed this was a liability / safety issue but yes, it is annoying.

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                        #67

                        @mvexel it is in part, but not wholly - if it’s TOO overloaded it can be, esp as axle load of double decker TGVs is limited. But it’s taken to an excessive extreme by SNCF and Eurostar, to drive up ticket costs on peak trains.

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                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                          I tried the ticket office for Eurostar first. But there were 3 desks open and a crazy queue. That would not have worked. #CrossBorderRail

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                          #68

                          Apart from the speed of the train when it’s running, and - from Eurostar’s point of view - the ticket prices, EVERYTHING else is inefficient. Staffing. Boarding. Seating. Timetables. Ticket offices. Catering. Luggage stowage. #CrossBorderRail

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                          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                            Apart from the speed of the train when it’s running, and - from Eurostar’s point of view - the ticket prices, EVERYTHING else is inefficient. Staffing. Boarding. Seating. Timetables. Ticket offices. Catering. Luggage stowage. #CrossBorderRail

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                            #69

                            Damn how we need competition against Eurostar. Both to London and on ex-Thalys routes. I’m not even necessarily a fan of competition but it’s the only hope here. #CrossBorderRail

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                            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                              Damn how we need competition against Eurostar. Both to London and on ex-Thalys routes. I’m not even necessarily a fan of competition but it’s the only hope here. #CrossBorderRail

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                              #70

                              And all I need now: my second #CrossBorderRail to run on time later on Liège - Maastricht

                              But it’s a Drielandentrein 🫣

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                              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                Damn how we need competition against Eurostar. Both to London and on ex-Thalys routes. I’m not even necessarily a fan of competition but it’s the only hope here. #CrossBorderRail

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                                #71

                                @jon Prices on Eurostar are just insane. Even for families it is often cheaper to fly than to go by train. Competition alone won't fix it though without extra infrastructure, no? You would know better, but my status is that there isn't more capacity through the channel tunnel than what they already do.

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                                • leo@mastodon.greenL leo@mastodon.green

                                  @jon Prices on Eurostar are just insane. Even for families it is often cheaper to fly than to go by train. Competition alone won't fix it though without extra infrastructure, no? You would know better, but my status is that there isn't more capacity through the channel tunnel than what they already do.

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                                  #72

                                  @leo a few years ago I calculated it for Paris - Bruxelles. If you run the current peak timetable all day, run 16 carriage trains all day, and run double deckers you get 186% more seats. On existing infra! That’s before even factoring in if there’s extra space on the lines.

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                                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                    And all I need now: my second #CrossBorderRail to run on time later on Liège - Maastricht

                                    But it’s a Drielandentrein 🫣

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                                    #73

                                    Also I forgot to add a rather tragic conversation from the Eurostar ticket office earlier, where I’d tried queuing.

                                    American behind me, to the security guard at the door: “I want to go to London today!”

                                    Security: “You’ll have to wait!”

                                    Him: “Isn’t there a train every hour?”

                                    Me to him: “Honestly try on your phone instead.”

                                    Him: “But they all say ‘No availability’”

                                    #CrossBorderRail

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                                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                      Also I forgot to add a rather tragic conversation from the Eurostar ticket office earlier, where I’d tried queuing.

                                      American behind me, to the security guard at the door: “I want to go to London today!”

                                      Security: “You’ll have to wait!”

                                      Him: “Isn’t there a train every hour?”

                                      Me to him: “Honestly try on your phone instead.”

                                      Him: “But they all say ‘No availability’”

                                      #CrossBorderRail

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                                      #74

                                      The guy is going to then have queued an hour, only to still be told there’s no ticket. #CrossBorderRail

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                                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                        Damn how we need competition against Eurostar. Both to London and on ex-Thalys routes. I’m not even necessarily a fan of competition but it’s the only hope here. #CrossBorderRail

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                                        #75

                                        @jon But please competition in ICE International style with flexible fares, no weird boarding, mindfully designed trains and good service - rather than Ouigo, ECD or Frecciarossa style 🫠.

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                                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                          The guy is going to then have queued an hour, only to still be told there’s no ticket. #CrossBorderRail

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                                          #76

                                          Meanwhile at Eurostar HQ. Screw you sucker passengers! We can set whatever prices we like, because what the hell else are you gonna do? Go to Charles de Gaulle Airport or something? #CrossBorderRail

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