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  3. Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

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  • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

    @woozle @jb Tough luck: all we've got in orbit today is capitalism, plus a couple of government-funded puppet shows showcasing "space science" while paying huge back-handers to corporations.

    This is the reason we can't have nice things. (I prefer the term "crapitalism" to "enshittification", but you get the picture either way.)

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    #96

    @cstross Indeed, I know -- it's where we are now.

    Perhaps not too late to stop it from metastasizing, but it's going to be a hard battle.

    @jb

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    • woozle@toot.catW woozle@toot.cat

      @cstross Indeed, I know -- it's where we are now.

      Perhaps not too late to stop it from metastasizing, but it's going to be a hard battle.

      @jb

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      #97

      @woozle @jb

      Capitalism is a self-limiting problem.

      (Whether it limits *us* at the same time is an open question for the time being.)

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      • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

        @woozle @jb

        Capitalism is a self-limiting problem.

        (Whether it limits *us* at the same time is an open question for the time being.)

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        #98

        @cstross ...as with any cancer or parasite... @jb

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        • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

          @raymaccarthy @oldgeek @lucien The point of starlink is low latency, which means low orbit. Which in turn requires lots of them to ensure there are no gaps in coverage. (And now they're working on satellite-to-satellite high bandwidth laser mesh networking to increase capacity.)

          I think you underestimate the scale of aviation and shipping, not to mention railway transport.

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          #99

          @cstross @oldgeek @lucien
          No, I don't because I was RF R&D in an ISP with fibre, mobile, Fixed Wireless and Satellite. They also had datacentres.

          Railway is better served by Cellular.

          Obviously in LEO you need a load to have continuous coverage, but to do the equivalent of rural fibre or cellular for trains you need orders of magnitude more.

          Even cellular is being done badly due to too big cells and regulatory capture. I've dealt with the Irish regulator, Comreg.

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          • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

            Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

            No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

            But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

            Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

            So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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            #100

            @cstross

            Elon Musk very rarely actually builds what he promotes.

            He is a traitorous money laundering conduit for petrostate despots.
            https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/oct/25/elon-musk-has-been-in-regular-contact-with-putin-for-two-years-say-reports

            https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-jared-kushner-world-cup-2022-12

            https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2025/05/13/trump-tech-execs-riyadh/

            https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/19/tech/saudi-arabia-us-chips-ai-race

            https://www.npr.org/2025/05/15/nx-s1-5398586/why-top-tech-ceos-joined-trump-on-his-trip-to-saudi-arabia

            Even his investors like Larry Ellison, Putin, & Alwaleed bin Talal recognize his utility in corrupting elections for the richest fascists on the planet.

            Musk facilitates mass financial frauds.

            That's it, that's all he does, defraud.

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            • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

              @cstross

              Elon Musk very rarely actually builds what he promotes.

              He is a traitorous money laundering conduit for petrostate despots.
              https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/oct/25/elon-musk-has-been-in-regular-contact-with-putin-for-two-years-say-reports

              https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-jared-kushner-world-cup-2022-12

              https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2025/05/13/trump-tech-execs-riyadh/

              https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/19/tech/saudi-arabia-us-chips-ai-race

              https://www.npr.org/2025/05/15/nx-s1-5398586/why-top-tech-ceos-joined-trump-on-his-trip-to-saudi-arabia

              Even his investors like Larry Ellison, Putin, & Alwaleed bin Talal recognize his utility in corrupting elections for the richest fascists on the planet.

              Musk facilitates mass financial frauds.

              That's it, that's all he does, defraud.

              1/

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              #101

              2/

              Musk's List of "Failure to Deliver" frauds:

              1. Man on Mars
              2. Hyperloop train
              3. Robotics
              4. xAI achieving AGI
              5. Flying cars
              6. DOGE 'efficiencies'
              7. Lunar tourism
              8. No covid
              9. Candy

              https://qz.com/elon-musks-worst-predictions-promises-1851410720

              https://mashable.com/article/elon-musk-failed-to-deliver-on-2025-promises

              Musk's actually delivered:
              1. The largest data breaches in US history
              2. Joined the military industrial complex
              3. A fossil fuel funded fascist alliance
              4. Kleptocracy
              5. Can foment far right riots with a single tweet
              6. Mass hate campaigns for Nazis

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              • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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                #102

                @cstross

                About as brilliant idea as the Cybertruck was.

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                • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                  2/

                  Musk's List of "Failure to Deliver" frauds:

                  1. Man on Mars
                  2. Hyperloop train
                  3. Robotics
                  4. xAI achieving AGI
                  5. Flying cars
                  6. DOGE 'efficiencies'
                  7. Lunar tourism
                  8. No covid
                  9. Candy

                  https://qz.com/elon-musks-worst-predictions-promises-1851410720

                  https://mashable.com/article/elon-musk-failed-to-deliver-on-2025-promises

                  Musk's actually delivered:
                  1. The largest data breaches in US history
                  2. Joined the military industrial complex
                  3. A fossil fuel funded fascist alliance
                  4. Kleptocracy
                  5. Can foment far right riots with a single tweet
                  6. Mass hate campaigns for Nazis

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                  #103

                  @Npars01 You forgot the traffic-less tunnels in your "failure to deliver" list 🤭

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                  • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                    @cstross

                    Elon Musk very rarely actually builds what he promotes.

                    He is a traitorous money laundering conduit for petrostate despots.
                    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/oct/25/elon-musk-has-been-in-regular-contact-with-putin-for-two-years-say-reports

                    https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-jared-kushner-world-cup-2022-12

                    https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2025/05/13/trump-tech-execs-riyadh/

                    https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/19/tech/saudi-arabia-us-chips-ai-race

                    https://www.npr.org/2025/05/15/nx-s1-5398586/why-top-tech-ceos-joined-trump-on-his-trip-to-saudi-arabia

                    Even his investors like Larry Ellison, Putin, & Alwaleed bin Talal recognize his utility in corrupting elections for the richest fascists on the planet.

                    Musk facilitates mass financial frauds.

                    That's it, that's all he does, defraud.

                    1/

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                    #104

                    @Npars01 @cstross And if it somehow manages to get built, it was despite Musk, not because of. They literally have to wall shit off from him in order to get things accomplished

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                    • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                      2/

                      Musk's List of "Failure to Deliver" frauds:

                      1. Man on Mars
                      2. Hyperloop train
                      3. Robotics
                      4. xAI achieving AGI
                      5. Flying cars
                      6. DOGE 'efficiencies'
                      7. Lunar tourism
                      8. No covid
                      9. Candy

                      https://qz.com/elon-musks-worst-predictions-promises-1851410720

                      https://mashable.com/article/elon-musk-failed-to-deliver-on-2025-promises

                      Musk's actually delivered:
                      1. The largest data breaches in US history
                      2. Joined the military industrial complex
                      3. A fossil fuel funded fascist alliance
                      4. Kleptocracy
                      5. Can foment far right riots with a single tweet
                      6. Mass hate campaigns for Nazis

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                      #105

                      @Npars01 👍👍👍

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                      • dnorman@cosocial.caD dnorman@cosocial.ca

                        @bornach @bellegraylane @cstross just waiting for The Boring Company to pivot to AI…

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                        #106

                        @dnorman @bornach @cstross AI tunnels should be interesting. Hallucinating into bedrock sounds expensive.

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                        • bjn@mstdn.socialB bjn@mstdn.social

                          @cstross It was obvious bollocks (just like hyperloop, the boring company etc…), just I didn’t know why he was boosting it as I didn’t realise he was planning an IPO this year. Tosser.

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                          #107

                          @bjn @cstross and despite being shown to repeatedly over promise and under delivery, the markets will no doubt lap it up anyway.

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