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  3. It's interesting that Google's compliance with non-law government directives regarding the names of bodies of water is so blazingly fast, because, they say, it's their responsibility under the law and they're just following orders...

It's interesting that Google's compliance with non-law government directives regarding the names of bodies of water is so blazingly fast, because, they say, it's their responsibility under the law and they're just following orders...

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  • j2kun@mathstodon.xyzJ j2kun@mathstodon.xyz

    @tknarr @cliffle this is true, and the original post smells like disinformation.

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    #25

    @j2kun @tknarr @cliffle Pretty sure the USGS NGIS does not say which name to show in Germany?

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    • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

      @cliffle

      Everything Google does is intended to curry the favor of oil oligarchs, petrostate despots, and their financiers.

      https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/nov/15/major-investor-calls-on-google-owner-to-aggressively-cut-staff-and-pay

      https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/billionaire-hohn-more-google-layoffs-17736530.php

      https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/07/heres-a-look-at-who.html

      https://www.reuters.com/technology/artificial-intelligencer-trump-mbs-meeting-brings-ai-money-2025-11-20/

      https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-google-hand-dissident-data-to-saudi-arabia-activists-say-2023-7

      https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2025-05-13/trump-mbs-tout-1-trillion-saudi-deal-commitment

      https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-saudi-event-include-ceos-chevron-qualcomm-pfizer-source-says-2025-11-17/

      https://www.thenation.com/article/society/wall-street-mbs-saudi-al-rumayyan/

      https://www.businessinsider.com/how-investment-in-uber-brought-saudi-prince-to-silicon-valley-2020-9

      https://fortune.com/2024/01/08/amazon-microsoft-google-opening-saudi-arabia-hqs/

      https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/13/us/politics/trump-saudi-business-lunch-musk-altman.html

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      #26

      @Npars01 @cliffle And an older one: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/google-apple-remove-navalny-app-stores-russian-elections-begin-2021-09-17/

      Yes, even Putin.

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      • cliffle@hachyderm.ioC cliffle@hachyderm.io

        It's interesting that Google's compliance with non-law government directives regarding the names of bodies of water is so blazingly fast, because, they say, it's their responsibility under the law and they're just following orders...

        ...and yet their compliance with laws regarding labor rights, collective bargaining, sexual harrassment, and workforce diversity was and is glacial, despite being actual laws.

        Every response is a choice.

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        #27

        @cliffle

        "don't be evil"
        [follows dictates of a rapist]

        Google needs to be emptied out.

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        • divverent@social.vivaldi.netD divverent@social.vivaldi.net

          @Npars01 @cliffle And an older one: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/google-apple-remove-navalny-app-stores-russian-elections-begin-2021-09-17/

          Yes, even Putin.

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          #28

          @divVerent @cliffle

          Google sides with authoritarians, always

          Saudi Arabia
          https://www.newsweek.com/what-absher-google-approved-saudi-government-app-tracks-women-1350005

          https://english.aawsat.com/technology/4500261-over-26m-electronic-transactions-carried-out-through-saudi-arabias-absher

          China
          https://theintercept.com/2018/08/01/google-china-search-engine-censorship/

          https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/02/google-working-on-censored-search-engine-for-china

          https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-49015516

          https://www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/chinas-moonshot-talks-with-microsoft-amazon-google-over-k3-revenue-sharing-2026-08-26/

          https://qz.com/moonshot-ai-kimi-k3-revenue-sharing-microsoft-amazon-google-082626

          Russia
          https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/feb/15/google-helped-facilitate-russia-china-censorship-requests

          https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-48262148

          https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/01/02/top-google-exec-pushed-company-commit-human-rights-then-google-pushed-him-out-he-says/

          Orban
          https://kyivindependent.com/orbans-party-biggest-spenders-of-google-advertising-in-eu/

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          • divverent@social.vivaldi.netD divverent@social.vivaldi.net

            @j2kun @tknarr @cliffle Pretty sure the USGS NGIS does not say which name to show in Germany?

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            #29

            @divVerent @tknarr @cliffle The German government also runs a place name system (BKG). Does it choose a different name that Maps ignores? If so, that might be worth complaining about.

            My point is really that people should first learn how the systems work before posting rants about them.

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            • cliffle@hachyderm.ioC cliffle@hachyderm.io

              It's interesting that Google's compliance with non-law government directives regarding the names of bodies of water is so blazingly fast, because, they say, it's their responsibility under the law and they're just following orders...

              ...and yet their compliance with laws regarding labor rights, collective bargaining, sexual harrassment, and workforce diversity was and is glacial, despite being actual laws.

              Every response is a choice.

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              #30

              @cliffle
              Here in Australia, I see:
              Lake Ontario
              Gulf Of Mexico (Gulf Of America)

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              • cliffle@hachyderm.ioC cliffle@hachyderm.io

                It's interesting that Google's compliance with non-law government directives regarding the names of bodies of water is so blazingly fast, because, they say, it's their responsibility under the law and they're just following orders...

                ...and yet their compliance with laws regarding labor rights, collective bargaining, sexual harrassment, and workforce diversity was and is glacial, despite being actual laws.

                Every response is a choice.

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                #31

                @cliffle

                Google is gonzo for me. Finally ditched it today. Fuck them.

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                • j2kun@mathstodon.xyzJ j2kun@mathstodon.xyz

                  @divVerent @tknarr @cliffle The German government also runs a place name system (BKG). Does it choose a different name that Maps ignores? If so, that might be worth complaining about.

                  My point is really that people should first learn how the systems work before posting rants about them.

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                  #32

                  @j2kun @tknarr @cliffle The BKG seems to return "Ontariosee" and "Lake Ontario", depending on which of its APIs one uses.

                  To some extent, the BKG reuses data from OpenStreetMap, BTW.

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                  • cliffle@hachyderm.ioC cliffle@hachyderm.io

                    It's interesting that Google's compliance with non-law government directives regarding the names of bodies of water is so blazingly fast, because, they say, it's their responsibility under the law and they're just following orders...

                    ...and yet their compliance with laws regarding labor rights, collective bargaining, sexual harrassment, and workforce diversity was and is glacial, despite being actual laws.

                    Every response is a choice.

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                    #33

                    @cliffle they are just magically drawn to fellatio.

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                    • cliffle@hachyderm.ioC cliffle@hachyderm.io

                      It's interesting that Google's compliance with non-law government directives regarding the names of bodies of water is so blazingly fast, because, they say, it's their responsibility under the law and they're just following orders...

                      ...and yet their compliance with laws regarding labor rights, collective bargaining, sexual harrassment, and workforce diversity was and is glacial, despite being actual laws.

                      Every response is a choice.

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                      #34

                      @cliffle it’s interesting how clueless you are …

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                      • maya_b@hachyderm.ioM maya_b@hachyderm.io

                        @antopatriarca

                        I checked from Ontario today, and it's still Lake Ontario.

                        Google announced that within the US it won't be shown as Lake Ontario however.

                        @cliffle

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                        #35

                        @maya_b @antopatriarca @cliffle what about the Gulf of Mexico, do you see it as "Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America)" or just one of them? Asking because I'd expect they do the same with the Lake at some point

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                        • cliffle@hachyderm.ioC cliffle@hachyderm.io

                          It's interesting that Google's compliance with non-law government directives regarding the names of bodies of water is so blazingly fast, because, they say, it's their responsibility under the law and they're just following orders...

                          ...and yet their compliance with laws regarding labor rights, collective bargaining, sexual harrassment, and workforce diversity was and is glacial, despite being actual laws.

                          Every response is a choice.

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                          #36

                          @cliffle It definitely speaks loudly but unfortunately not enough. I would hope it helps wake up some people around me, but knowing their "It does not effect me" attitude - I doubt it.

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                          • cliffle@hachyderm.ioC cliffle@hachyderm.io

                            It's interesting that Google's compliance with non-law government directives regarding the names of bodies of water is so blazingly fast, because, they say, it's their responsibility under the law and they're just following orders...

                            ...and yet their compliance with laws regarding labor rights, collective bargaining, sexual harrassment, and workforce diversity was and is glacial, despite being actual laws.

                            Every response is a choice.

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                            #37

                            @cliffle Executive orders are not laws.

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                            • cliffle@hachyderm.ioC cliffle@hachyderm.io

                              It's interesting that Google's compliance with non-law government directives regarding the names of bodies of water is so blazingly fast, because, they say, it's their responsibility under the law and they're just following orders...

                              ...and yet their compliance with laws regarding labor rights, collective bargaining, sexual harrassment, and workforce diversity was and is glacial, despite being actual laws.

                              Every response is a choice.

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                              #38

                              @cliffle

                              Just following orders like a good sycophant would...

                              Remember 1945...

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                              • divverent@social.vivaldi.netD divverent@social.vivaldi.net

                                @antopatriarca @maya_b @cliffle Germany sees "Lake Ontario (Lake America)". Not sure which other countries are affected how.

                                I presume it will be consistent with the Gulf of Mexico.

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                                #39

                                @divVerent @antopatriarca @maya_b @cliffle Same for Poland.

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                                • cliffle@hachyderm.ioC cliffle@hachyderm.io

                                  It's interesting that Google's compliance with non-law government directives regarding the names of bodies of water is so blazingly fast, because, they say, it's their responsibility under the law and they're just following orders...

                                  ...and yet their compliance with laws regarding labor rights, collective bargaining, sexual harrassment, and workforce diversity was and is glacial, despite being actual laws.

                                  Every response is a choice.

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                                  #40

                                  @cliffle Tells me that they see themselves as a part of the US government.

                                  After letting that sink in for a bit, things they do/did now start to make a whole lot more sense.

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                                  • hasani@my-spaces.socialH hasani@my-spaces.social

                                    @cliffle Tells me that they see themselves as a part of the US government.

                                    After letting that sink in for a bit, things they do/did now start to make a whole lot more sense.

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                                    #41

                                    @hasani @cliffle a very big part, of the Pentagon's JWCC, with a race to launch the Startgate by 2028.

                                    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/pentagon-splits-9-billion-cloud-computer-network-contract-between-4-firms

                                    #JWCC #Stargate #DataCenters #Pentagon

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