Today is the day: The European Commission is expected to publish the EU Tech Sovereignty Package.

[bedifferent@mastodon.social]

@Tutanota "Americans" (I'm not sure what that means at this time) are in a kleptocracy. We're just pawns.

But the good news is a much older sibling let me know how much she hates goo and AI (I told her about Mastodon). I had no clue she knew enough to hate both.

[fruitless_tux@mastodon.social]

@ilumium
Still, @Tutanota isn't wrong. They didn't say that you should just blindly take something European like an idiot.

You have to act and choose with care.

But as often, they forgot @protonprivacy in their list.

[brokar@mastodon.social]

@Tutanota "The Americans buy American, the Chinese buy Chinese, when will Europe start to support its own industry?"

I was asking this for quite some time. But i guess it's easier to simply buy something from a predatory company than investing a little in something own.

I wish there was an EU Open Source fund which supports European developers - on a recurring basis - if their main daily work is maintaining the software.
We have good software in Europe, we're just not supporting it enough.

[lusogeek@mastodon.social]

@Tutanota I would say ,not right now.

[cavallo_pazzo@toot.community]

@Tutanota I can only believe that when you will experience it in the near future and will write us some feedback. Otherwise it is just another hype, big words, empty promise, etc.

[dmian@mastodon.social]

@ilumium @Tutanota For that, EU politicians need to admit that this Capitalist system has failed, and start to think about an alternative (that’s not one on the other previously failed systems). But not caving to oligarchs and their FOMO of USA oligarchs seems like a difficult proposition for our EU representatives right now…

[david@social.piconet.work]

@ilumium @Tutanota I think the sentiment is to buy European because the laws governing the data is in the hands of Europe, and we can improve legislation. Well I say “we”, but I’m in the UK and have no trust in the UK government’s ability to create good data protection laws. Which is why I am hoping the EU will continue pushing in its current direction.

[bishop6@mastodon.online]

@Tutanota Unfortunately such a huge focus on "AI, AI, AI"... the real importance is the fundamentals of data sovereignty (European data housed in Europe by European companies) and software. AI is a distraction.

[aptitude@mastodon.social]

@Tutanota In more laymen's terms, the EU is more of a 'patchwork' of countries, loosely tied. Therefore, more singular momentum in prioritized root infrastructure, is equally aloof, compared to more singular entities like the US and China - even given the bipolar duopoly in the US.

It's a very low probability this will ever change - especially the too-many-polar axes of the EU.

[david@social.piconet.work]

@fruitless_tux @ilumium @Tutanota @protonprivacy I think it’s specifically the initiative, and if Proton isn’t a part, it’s not on the list. Perhaps it can’t be as it’s not EU. It’s not a statement that it’s bad or anything, obviously, just this new scheme. And it’s a chance for lesser known companies to become choices. Proton is well known enough already!

[cairobraga@gts.cairobraga.com]

@Tutanota "But will they be bold enough?" No, they won't.

[zleap@techhub.social]

@Tutanota

The EU HAS to be bold enough, we can do it and more than do this, just need to get on with it.

[terefang74@mastodon.social]

@Tutanota

Growing up in the 1980s, I was taught that the European social-capitalist model offered a fair balance between capitalism and communism.

Our representative democracies have been both a strength and a weakness—providing stability, yet often struggling to preserve and implement the values on which the model was built.

Combined with globalization and the influence of powerful interests, this has contributed to the erosion of many of its achievements.

[cohentheblue@ohai.social]

@david @ilumium @Tutanota Perhaps you're from Scotland, in which case you should support the independence movement as loud as you can...

[david@social.piconet.work]

@cohentheblue @ilumium @Tutanota I would if I could. I’m in England. I’m a bit resigned to believing English people seem to be turkeys voting for Christmas. Giving up our rights without a fight out of fear of “otherness”, the government and opportunistic people are currently wrongly directing at immigrants.

[s1m0n4@ohai.social]

@Tutanota you forgot Sailfish OS (and Jolla Phones)

[mterburg@mastodon.social]

@Tutanota

"The Americans buy American, the Chinese buy Chinese, when will Europe start to support its own industry?"

The Americans buy Asian products sold as American brands.

And is deglobalisation and more nationalism really the solution?

[haraldki@nrw.social]

@Tutanota

How long will it take until vdLeyen tells Trump "ooops sorry, this wasn't serious, of course"?

[tutanota@mastodon.social]

@ilumium Thanks for joining the discussion. We absolutely agree to anything you just said!

[xs4me2@mastodon.social]

@Tutanota We should be independent where it counts…