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  • boggin@mastodon.scotB boggin@mastodon.scot

    @alice @Irenetherogue I got off when taken to court for nonpayment of Poll Tax (Thatcher thing, yes, I'm that old) because I poisoned their data by missing out a crucial box on the form.

    Don't refuse to comply but *always* sabotage their data. It's simply costs them more.

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    #98

    @boggin @alice @Irenetherogue
    Back in the nineties I'd pay my phone bill by cheque. BT would charge me an admin fee, that eventually topped £7.50 just to cash a cheque. Of course they wanted to bully me in to paying via Direct Debit.
    So I made all my cheques out to 'Bastard Telecom' and didn't sign them. I thought I was being very clever, forcing them to hustle for their fee.
    But they just went and cashed them anyway! No idea how as they were unsigned... 🤔

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    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

      👏 Poison 👏 your 👏 data ☠️

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      #99

      @alice

      Options available:

      - NULL
      - NaN
      - object.Object
      - '�' (Unicode question mark when parsing fails or breaks)

      More palatable names:

      - John Smith
      - Jane Doe
      - Alex Johnson

      Mix and match as needed, add junior or senior. Otherwise search for "common names <country>" if you want to twist things around.

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      • infrapink@mastodon.ieI infrapink@mastodon.ie

        @q @alice

        Why do you spell 'ðe' with a þ?

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        #100

        @Infrapink @alice
        why not 😆

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        • q@social.quotequack.xyzQ q@social.quotequack.xyz

          @Infrapink @alice
          why not 😆

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          #101

          @q @alice

          Because þ is unvoiced; it's pronounced /θ/. The initial sound of ðe word 'ðe' (usually spelled 'the') is voiced, pronounced /ð/. Ðey are different sounds which happen to be represented by the same digraph in standard English orþography because ancient Greek didn't have a voiced dental fricative.

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          • optimisticmoron@mastodon.xyzO optimisticmoron@mastodon.xyz

            @veronica @alex @alice

            What about this one - Night [court] Data?

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            #102

            @OptimisticMoron @veronica @alice

            I've got one.

            Ancient Data

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            • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

              The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

              Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

              Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

              Using VPNs set to different locations.

              Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

              Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

              If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

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              #103

              @alice your post should be brought as an example of what "service to the community" means! 👏🏻

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              • catdad@ohai.socialC catdad@ohai.social

                @alice wondering vaguely if using 'rm -rf /' would work as a response.

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                #104

                @catdad @alice I'd add a semicolon just in case it only passes args. ;rm -rf /

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                • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                  👏 Poison 👏 your 👏 data ☠️

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                  #105

                  @alice

                  I wonder how well 'glaze' and 'nightshade' are working against the newer iterations of AI. When I was still on IG, a few years ago, I was using them on all my images I posted while doing an online life-drawing course.

                  https://glaze.cs.uchicago.edu

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                  • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                    The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

                    Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

                    Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

                    Using VPNs set to different locations.

                    Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

                    Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

                    If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

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                    #106

                    @alice oh I've kind of done that since forever, but using the same fake data

                    Once I had to recover a password and when I was chatting to the person on their end they were "oh, it seems like you didn't give us truthful info for your home address" and I gave it back down to the post code 💀

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                    • mostlytato@mstdn.socialM mostlytato@mstdn.social

                      @boggin @alice @Irenetherogue
                      Back in the nineties I'd pay my phone bill by cheque. BT would charge me an admin fee, that eventually topped £7.50 just to cash a cheque. Of course they wanted to bully me in to paying via Direct Debit.
                      So I made all my cheques out to 'Bastard Telecom' and didn't sign them. I thought I was being very clever, forcing them to hustle for their fee.
                      But they just went and cashed them anyway! No idea how as they were unsigned... 🤔

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                      #107

                      @MostlyTato @boggin @alice @Irenetherogue
                      The US Interval Revenue Service is renowned for cashing checks *made out to someone else*.

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                        #108

                        @alice

                        Oh cool! I wish I had seen your posts sooner!

                        I toyed with these a while when I was still on WIndows - I just don't post much of anything any more. I deleted my IG and FB and replaced Windows, etc etc etc....

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                        • infrapink@mastodon.ieI infrapink@mastodon.ie

                          @q @alice

                          Because þ is unvoiced; it's pronounced /θ/. The initial sound of ðe word 'ðe' (usually spelled 'the') is voiced, pronounced /ð/. Ðey are different sounds which happen to be represented by the same digraph in standard English orþography because ancient Greek didn't have a voiced dental fricative.

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                          shadsterling@mastodon.social
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                          #109

                          @Infrapink @q @alice AIUI the old English thorn is the direct predecessor to the modern English “th”, unrelated to the similar-looking archaic Greek letter sho

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                          • theorangetheme@en.osm.townT theorangetheme@en.osm.town

                            @alice I've toyed with the idea of setting up a headless Chrome instance to just ask "but why?" to ChatGPT all day to drive up their inference costs. 👀

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                            #110

                            @theorangetheme @alice

                            Philosophy!

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                            • jamesdbartlett3@techhub.socialJ jamesdbartlett3@techhub.social

                              @alice
                              Agreed on all points except one: If you're providing incorrect data to poison the data broker's systems, please don't just type in a "random" email address unless you're confident that it's not someone's real email address.

                              On any given day, I receive about a dozen emails from various websites where an email address was required for registration, and someone typed in my email address while providing their "fake" info. Pizza order receipts, airline flight confirmations, golf tee time registrations, etc.

                              The worst part is that these are misdirected, but otherwise legitimate emails, so I can't just mark them as spam, because that will poison the spam detection algorithm's dataset.

                              So yeah, if you're gonna type in a fake email address, please make sure that it doesn't belong to someone first, and the easiest way to do that is to use a nonexistent domain, preferably one that no one would ever register, like "${random_guid}.com"

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                              shadsterling@mastodon.social
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                              #111

                              @JamesDBartlett3 @alice those are spam, and should be reported as such. Any system that doesn’t validate email addresses before adding them to a list will be used maliciously in attempts to overwhelm target email addresses by signing them up for every vulnerable mailer.

                              Also, the more complaints that buyers get as a result of buying data from brokers, the less the data is worth. I wouldn’t worry about a made up address I use once happening to be real

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                              • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                👏 Poison 👏 your 👏 data ☠️

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                                #112

                                @alice I've been contemplating keeping a fake code repo behind an invisible link on my website. Lots of useful looking stuff, everything compiling cleanly, but with all if it subtly broken.

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                                • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                  The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

                                  Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

                                  Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

                                  Using VPNs set to different locations.

                                  Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

                                  Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

                                  If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

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                                  #113

                                  @alice the LLM suggestion kind of sounds like what you could do with the old Google recaptcha challenges where it showed your two words you were supposed to type in.
                                  The system really only knew one of the words and the second one was basically put there so you could be the text recognition system for Google digitizing some media. Once you knew what to look for you could see which word the system did not know because it was distorted in specific ways and you could input any poison data you liked.

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                                    #114

                                    @alice
                                    I've been using April 1st for my birthday on web forms basically since there's been a web. The year, I pick more or less at random. I get a handful of automated "birthday" emails every April Fool's day. 😆

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                                    • S shadsterling@mastodon.social

                                      @JamesDBartlett3 @alice those are spam, and should be reported as such. Any system that doesn’t validate email addresses before adding them to a list will be used maliciously in attempts to overwhelm target email addresses by signing them up for every vulnerable mailer.

                                      Also, the more complaints that buyers get as a result of buying data from brokers, the less the data is worth. I wouldn’t worry about a made up address I use once happening to be real

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                                      #115

                                      @ShadSterling @JamesDBartlett3 @alice @alice

                                      Remember, 👉@👈.com is a correct valid formatted e-mail address

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                                        #116

                                        @alice very much appreciated

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                                        • infrapink@mastodon.ieI infrapink@mastodon.ie

                                          @q @alice

                                          Because þ is unvoiced; it's pronounced /θ/. The initial sound of ðe word 'ðe' (usually spelled 'the') is voiced, pronounced /ð/. Ðey are different sounds which happen to be represented by the same digraph in standard English orþography because ancient Greek didn't have a voiced dental fricative.

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                                          #117

                                          @Infrapink @alice
                                          historically þey were interchangable.
                                          modern perception shifts þem to þose roles.
                                          anyþing is good and fair game imo.
                                          informative comment noneþeless þo!

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