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  • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

    The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

    Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

    Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

    Using VPNs set to different locations.

    Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

    Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

    If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

    irenetherogue@beige.partyI This user is from outside of this forum
    irenetherogue@beige.partyI This user is from outside of this forum
    irenetherogue@beige.party
    wrote on sidst redigeret af
    #6

    @alice scribbling notes furiously

    For the less savvy among us, tysvm for this helpful advice πŸ™

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    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

      The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

      Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

      Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

      Using VPNs set to different locations.

      Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

      Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

      If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

      theorangetheme@en.osm.townT This user is from outside of this forum
      theorangetheme@en.osm.townT This user is from outside of this forum
      theorangetheme@en.osm.town
      wrote on sidst redigeret af
      #7

      @alice I've toyed with the idea of setting up a headless Chrome instance to just ask "but why?" to ChatGPT all day to drive up their inference costs. πŸ‘€

      miclgael@hachyderm.ioM asprinkleofsage@mastodon.socialA saltywizard@beige.partyS nickynah@rebel.arN ighostrider@mastodon.socialI 7 Replies Last reply
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      • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

        The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

        Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

        Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

        Using VPNs set to different locations.

        Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

        Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

        If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

        numerfolt@kirche.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
        numerfolt@kirche.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
        numerfolt@kirche.social
        wrote on sidst redigeret af
        #8

        @alice If you're selfhosting, have a look a iocaine: https://iocaine.madhouse-project.org/

        If you upload pictures, maybe nightshade would be the right tool: https://nightshade.cs.uchicago.edu/userguide.html

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        • theorangetheme@en.osm.townT theorangetheme@en.osm.town

          @alice I've toyed with the idea of setting up a headless Chrome instance to just ask "but why?" to ChatGPT all day to drive up their inference costs. πŸ‘€

          miclgael@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
          miclgael@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
          miclgael@hachyderm.io
          wrote on sidst redigeret af
          #9

          @theorangetheme ha! thats so good.

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          • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

            πŸ‘ Poison πŸ‘ your πŸ‘ data ☠️

            f3715h@rubber.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
            f3715h@rubber.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
            f3715h@rubber.social
            wrote on sidst redigeret af
            #10

            @alice bonus points if you have a #MeatProxy !

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            • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

              The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

              Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

              Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

              Using VPNs set to different locations.

              Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

              Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

              If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

              miclgael@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
              miclgael@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
              miclgael@hachyderm.io
              wrote on sidst redigeret af
              #11

              @alice when i have to use a web app to order food, e.g. CoolBurgz (fictional) i will always put my email as e.g.

              coolburgz@coolburgz.coolburgz

              usually counts as valid.

              bytex64@awesome.gardenB pockets@lgbtqia.spaceP S 3 Replies Last reply
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              • miclgael@hachyderm.ioM miclgael@hachyderm.io

                @alice when i have to use a web app to order food, e.g. CoolBurgz (fictional) i will always put my email as e.g.

                coolburgz@coolburgz.coolburgz

                usually counts as valid.

                bytex64@awesome.gardenB This user is from outside of this forum
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                bytex64@awesome.garden
                wrote on sidst redigeret af
                #12

                @miclgael @alice if it doesn’t like that, .lol is a valid TLD. πŸ˜†

                miclgael@hachyderm.ioM kkarhan@jorts.horseK 2 Replies Last reply
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                • emily_s@mastodon.me.ukE This user is from outside of this forum
                  emily_s@mastodon.me.ukE This user is from outside of this forum
                  emily_s@mastodon.me.uk
                  wrote on sidst redigeret af
                  #13

                  @alice @theorangetheme I once built a fuzz testing tool that "randomly" shuffled input around and tested it against things. "does my input validation survive utterly batshit inputs?"

                  Feeding the inputs through something like that would make sure they can't cache answers.

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                  • bytex64@awesome.gardenB bytex64@awesome.garden

                    @miclgael @alice if it doesn’t like that, .lol is a valid TLD. πŸ˜†

                    miclgael@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
                    miclgael@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
                    miclgael@hachyderm.io
                    wrote on sidst redigeret af
                    #14

                    @bytex64 @alice maybe i'll just go ahead and register coolburgz@omg.lol haha

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                    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                      The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

                      Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

                      Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

                      Using VPNs set to different locations.

                      Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

                      Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

                      If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

                      vantiss@social.treehouse.systemsV This user is from outside of this forum
                      vantiss@social.treehouse.systemsV This user is from outside of this forum
                      vantiss@social.treehouse.systems
                      wrote on sidst redigeret af
                      #15

                      @alice

                      a fair bit of the advice in here seems really good, but from what I know, AdNauseam isn't really worth using over just uBO

                      at least as of when I last looked into it a couple years ago: it uses more resources on your machine, doesn't really make any significant difference for the companies, and the high volume of "clicks" from you just makes you far more trackable since no normal person browsing would do so

                      also, I think it might be worth editing the last point to say "hopefully none of you are using LLMs, but if you're someone who does..." 🩡

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                      • boggin@mastodon.scotB This user is from outside of this forum
                        boggin@mastodon.scotB This user is from outside of this forum
                        boggin@mastodon.scot
                        wrote on sidst redigeret af
                        #16

                        @alice @Irenetherogue I got off when taken to court for nonpayment of Poll Tax (Thatcher thing, yes, I'm that old) because I poisoned their data by missing out a crucial box on the form.

                        Don't refuse to comply but *always* sabotage their data. It's simply costs them more.

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                        • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                          The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

                          Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

                          Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

                          Using VPNs set to different locations.

                          Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

                          Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

                          If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

                          mikro2nd@indieweb.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                          mikro2nd@indieweb.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                          mikro2nd@indieweb.social
                          wrote on sidst redigeret af
                          #17

                          @alice "Fold your punch cards"! πŸ˜ƒ

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                          • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                            The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

                            Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

                            Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

                            Using VPNs set to different locations.

                            Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

                            Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

                            If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

                            aj@gts.sadauskas.id.auA This user is from outside of this forum
                            aj@gts.sadauskas.id.auA This user is from outside of this forum
                            aj@gts.sadauskas.id.au
                            wrote on sidst redigeret af
                            #18

                            @alice NULL is also a good answer for when you don't want to give out a particular personal detail.

                            Aside from phone, date of birth, and email, most of the time the front end form fields will accept NULL as an answer.

                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Null_(SQL)

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                            • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                              πŸ‘ Poison πŸ‘ your πŸ‘ data ☠️

                              gabboman@gabboman.xyzG This user is from outside of this forum
                              gabboman@gabboman.xyzG This user is from outside of this forum
                              gabboman@gabboman.xyz
                              wrote on sidst redigeret af
                              #19

                              @alice@lgbtqia.space

                              Sorry accidentally poisoned cuzco instead


                              #With-the-poison #the-poison-for-cuzco #the-poison-made-specifically-for-cuzco
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                              • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

                                Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

                                Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

                                Using VPNs set to different locations.

                                Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

                                Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

                                If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

                                phloggen@expressional.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
                                phloggen@expressional.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
                                phloggen@expressional.social
                                wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                #20

                                @alice

                                We should tax corporations by the GigaByte of storage the own.

                                It doesn't matter what they use it for, it should have a tangible yearly cost, to make them think about how much they store.

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                                • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                  The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

                                  Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

                                  Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

                                  Using VPNs set to different locations.

                                  Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

                                  Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

                                  If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

                                  agturcz@circumstances.runA This user is from outside of this forum
                                  agturcz@circumstances.runA This user is from outside of this forum
                                  agturcz@circumstances.run
                                  wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                  #21

                                  @alice Enter your name as [object Object] and let them try to find a bug.

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                                  • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                    πŸ‘ Poison πŸ‘ your πŸ‘ data ☠️

                                    themightygit@mstdn.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
                                    themightygit@mstdn.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
                                    themightygit@mstdn.social
                                    wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                    #22

                                    @alice a friend of mine changed his middle name to 'undefined', it caused so many problems he had to change it back within a year.

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                                    • theorangetheme@en.osm.townT theorangetheme@en.osm.town

                                      @alice I've toyed with the idea of setting up a headless Chrome instance to just ask "but why?" to ChatGPT all day to drive up their inference costs. πŸ‘€

                                      asprinkleofsage@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
                                      asprinkleofsage@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
                                      asprinkleofsage@mastodon.social
                                      wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                      #23

                                      @theorangetheme @alice lol somebody has a toddler

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                                      • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                        The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

                                        Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

                                        Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

                                        Using VPNs set to different locations.

                                        Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

                                        Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

                                        If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

                                        badrihippo@fosstodon.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
                                        badrihippo@fosstodon.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
                                        badrihippo@fosstodon.org
                                        wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                        #24

                                        @alice thank you! I've always wondered whether to put random made-up data but hearing the reasoning and logic spelt out like this is convincing me to actually start. Especially commonsense things like "mess with the fields that don't matter in their service to you"

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                                        • themightygit@mstdn.socialT themightygit@mstdn.social

                                          @alice a friend of mine changed his middle name to 'undefined', it caused so many problems he had to change it back within a year.

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                                          kirtai@tech.lgbt
                                          wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                          #25

                                          @TheMightyGit @alice
                                          Reminds me of someone who had the last name "Null" and had similar problems.

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