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  • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

    πŸ‘ Poison πŸ‘ your πŸ‘ data ☠️

    f3715h@rubber.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
    f3715h@rubber.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
    f3715h@rubber.social
    wrote on sidst redigeret af
    #10

    @alice bonus points if you have a #MeatProxy !

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    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

      The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

      Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

      Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

      Using VPNs set to different locations.

      Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

      Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

      If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

      miclgael@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
      miclgael@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
      miclgael@hachyderm.io
      wrote on sidst redigeret af
      #11

      @alice when i have to use a web app to order food, e.g. CoolBurgz (fictional) i will always put my email as e.g.

      coolburgz@coolburgz.coolburgz

      usually counts as valid.

      bytex64@awesome.gardenB pockets@lgbtqia.spaceP S 3 Replies Last reply
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      • miclgael@hachyderm.ioM miclgael@hachyderm.io

        @alice when i have to use a web app to order food, e.g. CoolBurgz (fictional) i will always put my email as e.g.

        coolburgz@coolburgz.coolburgz

        usually counts as valid.

        bytex64@awesome.gardenB This user is from outside of this forum
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        bytex64@awesome.garden
        wrote on sidst redigeret af
        #12

        @miclgael @alice if it doesn’t like that, .lol is a valid TLD. πŸ˜†

        miclgael@hachyderm.ioM kkarhan@jorts.horseK 2 Replies Last reply
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        • emily_s@mastodon.me.ukE This user is from outside of this forum
          emily_s@mastodon.me.ukE This user is from outside of this forum
          emily_s@mastodon.me.uk
          wrote on sidst redigeret af
          #13

          @alice @theorangetheme I once built a fuzz testing tool that "randomly" shuffled input around and tested it against things. "does my input validation survive utterly batshit inputs?"

          Feeding the inputs through something like that would make sure they can't cache answers.

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          • bytex64@awesome.gardenB bytex64@awesome.garden

            @miclgael @alice if it doesn’t like that, .lol is a valid TLD. πŸ˜†

            miclgael@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
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            miclgael@hachyderm.io
            wrote on sidst redigeret af
            #14

            @bytex64 @alice maybe i'll just go ahead and register coolburgz@omg.lol haha

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            • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

              The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

              Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

              Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

              Using VPNs set to different locations.

              Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

              Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

              If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

              vantiss@social.treehouse.systemsV This user is from outside of this forum
              vantiss@social.treehouse.systemsV This user is from outside of this forum
              vantiss@social.treehouse.systems
              wrote on sidst redigeret af
              #15

              @alice

              a fair bit of the advice in here seems really good, but from what I know, AdNauseam isn't really worth using over just uBO

              at least as of when I last looked into it a couple years ago: it uses more resources on your machine, doesn't really make any significant difference for the companies, and the high volume of "clicks" from you just makes you far more trackable since no normal person browsing would do so

              also, I think it might be worth editing the last point to say "hopefully none of you are using LLMs, but if you're someone who does..." 🩡

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              • boggin@mastodon.scotB This user is from outside of this forum
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                boggin@mastodon.scot
                wrote on sidst redigeret af
                #16

                @alice @Irenetherogue I got off when taken to court for nonpayment of Poll Tax (Thatcher thing, yes, I'm that old) because I poisoned their data by missing out a crucial box on the form.

                Don't refuse to comply but *always* sabotage their data. It's simply costs them more.

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                • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                  The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

                  Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

                  Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

                  Using VPNs set to different locations.

                  Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

                  Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

                  If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

                  mikro2nd@indieweb.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                  mikro2nd@indieweb.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                  mikro2nd@indieweb.social
                  wrote on sidst redigeret af
                  #17

                  @alice "Fold your punch cards"! πŸ˜ƒ

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                  • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                    The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

                    Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

                    Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

                    Using VPNs set to different locations.

                    Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

                    Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

                    If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

                    aj@gts.sadauskas.id.auA This user is from outside of this forum
                    aj@gts.sadauskas.id.auA This user is from outside of this forum
                    aj@gts.sadauskas.id.au
                    wrote on sidst redigeret af
                    #18

                    @alice NULL is also a good answer for when you don't want to give out a particular personal detail.

                    Aside from phone, date of birth, and email, most of the time the front end form fields will accept NULL as an answer.

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Null_(SQL)

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                    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                      πŸ‘ Poison πŸ‘ your πŸ‘ data ☠️

                      gabboman@gabboman.xyzG This user is from outside of this forum
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                      gabboman@gabboman.xyz
                      wrote on sidst redigeret af
                      #19

                      @alice@lgbtqia.space

                      Sorry accidentally poisoned cuzco instead


                      #With-the-poison #the-poison-for-cuzco #the-poison-made-specifically-for-cuzco
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                      • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                        The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

                        Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

                        Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

                        Using VPNs set to different locations.

                        Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

                        Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

                        If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

                        phloggen@expressional.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
                        phloggen@expressional.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
                        phloggen@expressional.social
                        wrote on sidst redigeret af
                        #20

                        @alice

                        We should tax corporations by the GigaByte of storage the own.

                        It doesn't matter what they use it for, it should have a tangible yearly cost, to make them think about how much they store.

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                        • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                          The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

                          Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

                          Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

                          Using VPNs set to different locations.

                          Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

                          Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

                          If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

                          agturcz@circumstances.runA This user is from outside of this forum
                          agturcz@circumstances.runA This user is from outside of this forum
                          agturcz@circumstances.run
                          wrote on sidst redigeret af
                          #21

                          @alice Enter your name as [object Object] and let them try to find a bug.

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                          • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                            πŸ‘ Poison πŸ‘ your πŸ‘ data ☠️

                            themightygit@mstdn.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
                            themightygit@mstdn.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
                            themightygit@mstdn.social
                            wrote on sidst redigeret af
                            #22

                            @alice a friend of mine changed his middle name to 'undefined', it caused so many problems he had to change it back within a year.

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                            • theorangetheme@en.osm.townT theorangetheme@en.osm.town

                              @alice I've toyed with the idea of setting up a headless Chrome instance to just ask "but why?" to ChatGPT all day to drive up their inference costs. πŸ‘€

                              asprinkleofsage@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                              asprinkleofsage@mastodon.social
                              wrote on sidst redigeret af
                              #23

                              @theorangetheme @alice lol somebody has a toddler

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                              • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

                                Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

                                Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

                                Using VPNs set to different locations.

                                Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

                                Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

                                If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

                                badrihippo@fosstodon.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                badrihippo@fosstodon.org
                                wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                #24

                                @alice thank you! I've always wondered whether to put random made-up data but hearing the reasoning and logic spelt out like this is convincing me to actually start. Especially commonsense things like "mess with the fields that don't matter in their service to you"

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                                • themightygit@mstdn.socialT themightygit@mstdn.social

                                  @alice a friend of mine changed his middle name to 'undefined', it caused so many problems he had to change it back within a year.

                                  kirtai@tech.lgbtK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  kirtai@tech.lgbt
                                  wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                  #25

                                  @TheMightyGit @alice
                                  Reminds me of someone who had the last name "Null" and had similar problems.

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                                  • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                    The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

                                    Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

                                    Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

                                    Using VPNs set to different locations.

                                    Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

                                    Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

                                    If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

                                    penguinrebellion@tldr.nettime.orgP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    penguinrebellion@tldr.nettime.org
                                    wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                    #26

                                    @alice

                                    Wrt #PII, It might be a good idea to avoid entering data easily identifiable as trash, and use generators instead. E.g.:

                                    • FauxID
                                    • Fake Name Generator
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                                    • theorangetheme@en.osm.townT theorangetheme@en.osm.town

                                      @alice I've toyed with the idea of setting up a headless Chrome instance to just ask "but why?" to ChatGPT all day to drive up their inference costs. πŸ‘€

                                      saltywizard@beige.partyS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      saltywizard@beige.party
                                      wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                      #27

                                      @theorangetheme @alice

                                      'and then?'

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                                      • amorpheus@kind.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
                                        amorpheus@kind.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
                                        amorpheus@kind.social
                                        wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                        #28

                                        @neoluddite @aj @alice Just wondered what might happen if enough self-hosting people were to add an zero opacity image tag on their public indexable pages illustrating a d*ckbutt and having alt attribute set to Donald J. Trump.

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                                        • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                          πŸ‘ Poison πŸ‘ your πŸ‘ data ☠️

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                                          saltywizard@beige.party
                                          wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                          #29

                                          @alice

                                          yes, yes, a thousand times, yes!

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