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  • emily_s@mastodon.me.ukE This user is from outside of this forum
    emily_s@mastodon.me.ukE This user is from outside of this forum
    emily_s@mastodon.me.uk
    wrote on sidst redigeret af
    #13

    @alice @theorangetheme I once built a fuzz testing tool that "randomly" shuffled input around and tested it against things. "does my input validation survive utterly batshit inputs?"

    Feeding the inputs through something like that would make sure they can't cache answers.

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    • bytex64@awesome.gardenB bytex64@awesome.garden

      @miclgael @alice if it doesn’t like that, .lol is a valid TLD. πŸ˜†

      miclgael@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
      miclgael@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
      miclgael@hachyderm.io
      wrote on sidst redigeret af
      #14

      @bytex64 @alice maybe i'll just go ahead and register coolburgz@omg.lol haha

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      • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

        The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

        Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

        Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

        Using VPNs set to different locations.

        Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

        Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

        If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

        vantiss@social.treehouse.systemsV This user is from outside of this forum
        vantiss@social.treehouse.systemsV This user is from outside of this forum
        vantiss@social.treehouse.systems
        wrote on sidst redigeret af
        #15

        @alice

        a fair bit of the advice in here seems really good, but from what I know, AdNauseam isn't really worth using over just uBO

        at least as of when I last looked into it a couple years ago: it uses more resources on your machine, doesn't really make any significant difference for the companies, and the high volume of "clicks" from you just makes you far more trackable since no normal person browsing would do so

        also, I think it might be worth editing the last point to say "hopefully none of you are using LLMs, but if you're someone who does..." 🩡

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        • boggin@mastodon.scotB This user is from outside of this forum
          boggin@mastodon.scotB This user is from outside of this forum
          boggin@mastodon.scot
          wrote on sidst redigeret af
          #16

          @alice @Irenetherogue I got off when taken to court for nonpayment of Poll Tax (Thatcher thing, yes, I'm that old) because I poisoned their data by missing out a crucial box on the form.

          Don't refuse to comply but *always* sabotage their data. It's simply costs them more.

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          • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

            The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

            Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

            Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

            Using VPNs set to different locations.

            Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

            Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

            If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

            mikro2nd@indieweb.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
            mikro2nd@indieweb.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
            mikro2nd@indieweb.social
            wrote on sidst redigeret af
            #17

            @alice "Fold your punch cards"! πŸ˜ƒ

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            • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

              The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

              Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

              Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

              Using VPNs set to different locations.

              Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

              Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

              If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

              aj@gts.sadauskas.id.auA This user is from outside of this forum
              aj@gts.sadauskas.id.auA This user is from outside of this forum
              aj@gts.sadauskas.id.au
              wrote on sidst redigeret af
              #18

              @alice NULL is also a good answer for when you don't want to give out a particular personal detail.

              Aside from phone, date of birth, and email, most of the time the front end form fields will accept NULL as an answer.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Null_(SQL)

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              • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                πŸ‘ Poison πŸ‘ your πŸ‘ data ☠️

                gabboman@gabboman.xyzG This user is from outside of this forum
                gabboman@gabboman.xyzG This user is from outside of this forum
                gabboman@gabboman.xyz
                wrote on sidst redigeret af
                #19

                @alice@lgbtqia.space

                Sorry accidentally poisoned cuzco instead


                #With-the-poison #the-poison-for-cuzco #the-poison-made-specifically-for-cuzco
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                • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                  The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

                  Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

                  Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

                  Using VPNs set to different locations.

                  Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

                  Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

                  If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

                  phloggen@expressional.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
                  phloggen@expressional.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
                  phloggen@expressional.social
                  wrote on sidst redigeret af
                  #20

                  @alice

                  We should tax corporations by the GigaByte of storage the own.

                  It doesn't matter what they use it for, it should have a tangible yearly cost, to make them think about how much they store.

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                  • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                    The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

                    Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

                    Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

                    Using VPNs set to different locations.

                    Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

                    Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

                    If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

                    agturcz@circumstances.runA This user is from outside of this forum
                    agturcz@circumstances.runA This user is from outside of this forum
                    agturcz@circumstances.run
                    wrote on sidst redigeret af
                    #21

                    @alice Enter your name as [object Object] and let them try to find a bug.

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                    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                      πŸ‘ Poison πŸ‘ your πŸ‘ data ☠️

                      themightygit@mstdn.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
                      themightygit@mstdn.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
                      themightygit@mstdn.social
                      wrote on sidst redigeret af
                      #22

                      @alice a friend of mine changed his middle name to 'undefined', it caused so many problems he had to change it back within a year.

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                      • theorangetheme@en.osm.townT theorangetheme@en.osm.town

                        @alice I've toyed with the idea of setting up a headless Chrome instance to just ask "but why?" to ChatGPT all day to drive up their inference costs. πŸ‘€

                        asprinkleofsage@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
                        asprinkleofsage@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
                        asprinkleofsage@mastodon.social
                        wrote on sidst redigeret af
                        #23

                        @theorangetheme @alice lol somebody has a toddler

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                        • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                          The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

                          Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

                          Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

                          Using VPNs set to different locations.

                          Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

                          Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

                          If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

                          badrihippo@fosstodon.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
                          badrihippo@fosstodon.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
                          badrihippo@fosstodon.org
                          wrote on sidst redigeret af
                          #24

                          @alice thank you! I've always wondered whether to put random made-up data but hearing the reasoning and logic spelt out like this is convincing me to actually start. Especially commonsense things like "mess with the fields that don't matter in their service to you"

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                          • themightygit@mstdn.socialT themightygit@mstdn.social

                            @alice a friend of mine changed his middle name to 'undefined', it caused so many problems he had to change it back within a year.

                            kirtai@tech.lgbtK This user is from outside of this forum
                            kirtai@tech.lgbtK This user is from outside of this forum
                            kirtai@tech.lgbt
                            wrote on sidst redigeret af
                            #25

                            @TheMightyGit @alice
                            Reminds me of someone who had the last name "Null" and had similar problems.

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                            • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                              The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

                              Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

                              Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

                              Using VPNs set to different locations.

                              Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

                              Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

                              If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

                              penguinrebellion@tldr.nettime.orgP This user is from outside of this forum
                              penguinrebellion@tldr.nettime.orgP This user is from outside of this forum
                              penguinrebellion@tldr.nettime.org
                              wrote on sidst redigeret af
                              #26

                              @alice

                              Wrt #PII, It might be a good idea to avoid entering data easily identifiable as trash, and use generators instead. E.g.:

                              • FauxID
                              • Fake Name Generator
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                              • theorangetheme@en.osm.townT theorangetheme@en.osm.town

                                @alice I've toyed with the idea of setting up a headless Chrome instance to just ask "but why?" to ChatGPT all day to drive up their inference costs. πŸ‘€

                                saltywizard@beige.partyS This user is from outside of this forum
                                saltywizard@beige.partyS This user is from outside of this forum
                                saltywizard@beige.party
                                wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                #27

                                @theorangetheme @alice

                                'and then?'

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                                • amorpheus@kind.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
                                  amorpheus@kind.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
                                  amorpheus@kind.social
                                  wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                  #28

                                  @neoluddite @aj @alice Just wondered what might happen if enough self-hosting people were to add an zero opacity image tag on their public indexable pages illustrating a d*ckbutt and having alt attribute set to Donald J. Trump.

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                                  • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                    πŸ‘ Poison πŸ‘ your πŸ‘ data ☠️

                                    saltywizard@beige.partyS This user is from outside of this forum
                                    saltywizard@beige.partyS This user is from outside of this forum
                                    saltywizard@beige.party
                                    wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                    #29

                                    @alice

                                    yes, yes, a thousand times, yes!

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                                    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                      The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

                                      Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

                                      Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

                                      Using VPNs set to different locations.

                                      Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

                                      Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

                                      If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

                                      mccrankyface@beige.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
                                      mccrankyface@beige.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
                                      mccrankyface@beige.party
                                      wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                      #30

                                      This is the way. I've been doing this since 1997.

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                                      • miguelpergamon@kolektiva.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                                        miguelpergamon@kolektiva.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                                        miguelpergamon@kolektiva.social
                                        wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                        #31

                                        @alice

                                        *keeps Data in a safe place far away from Alice*

                                        #FullyFunctionalAndProgrammedInMultipleTechniques #FullyFunctional

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                                        • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                          The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

                                          Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

                                          Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

                                          Using VPNs set to different locations.

                                          Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

                                          Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

                                          If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

                                          gorfram@beige.partyG This user is from outside of this forum
                                          gorfram@beige.partyG This user is from outside of this forum
                                          gorfram@beige.party
                                          wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                          #32

                                          @alice Non-tech-savvy question:
                                          Is there something special about 1970-01-01, or is it just an example of an arbitrary incorrect birthdate? Would it foul things up just as much if I entered, say, 1984-04-01?

                                          patrick@mendeddrum.orgP raindrops_and_roses@mastodon.socialR 2 Replies Last reply
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