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  3. Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

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  • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

    Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

    * enable developer options
    * confirm that you are not tricked
    * restart phone and re-authenticate
    * wait one day
    * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
    * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
    * confirm that you accept the risks
    * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

    https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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    #307

    @grote It is about time the EU intervened. Setting up unreasonable hurdles to access third party apps is enforcing the own part of the duopoly of smartphone operating systems.

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    • tootbrute@fedi.arkadi.oneT tootbrute@fedi.arkadi.one

      @grote I hate phones!

      Somebody make a one newer than 2018 that is compatible with #postmarketos please!!!!

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      #308

      @tootbrute @grote https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Fairphone_5_(fairphone-fp5)

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      • theycallmehacked@social.tchncs.deT theycallmehacked@social.tchncs.de

        @tootbrute @grote https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Fairphone_5_(fairphone-fp5)

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        #309

        @TheyCallMeHacked @grote i live in Taiwan. They do not sell them here. Don't sell Jolla either.

        Not sure if Furiphone can be shipped here. I need to register to look at my shopping cart there weirdly.

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        • waha_06x36@mastodon.socialW waha_06x36@mastodon.social

          @chand_v_post @grote That seems to just be shorthand for "unlock your device", since that is usually done with biometrics.

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          #310

          @WAHa_06x36 @grote thanks for the explanation.
          I feel like google did not think about real tools to help people beside make as hard as possible to use 3rd party software.
          No anti virus (that windows has it), no isolation tools, app verifier, only google protect but not sure about it (is it enough) .

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          • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

            Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

            * enable developer options
            * confirm that you are not tricked
            * restart phone and re-authenticate
            * wait one day
            * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
            * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
            * confirm that you accept the risks
            * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

            https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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            #311

            @grote
            1. Keep forcing every serious developer to register with Google and accept their terms
            2. Make it look like a security and safety feature

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            • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

              Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

              * enable developer options
              * confirm that you are not tricked
              * restart phone and re-authenticate
              * wait one day
              * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
              * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
              * confirm that you accept the risks
              * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

              https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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              #312

              @grote feels like there should be a "do a backflip" bulletin somewhere along the way.

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              • lexyeen@plush.cityL lexyeen@plush.city

                @grote remember, kids: "sideloading" is just "installing software that isn't on the app store." the corpos are just calling it "sideloading" because it sounds shadier.

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                #313

                @LexYeen @grote
                Yeah, it's just a computer. It's specifically *your* computer. They have created a disparaging term for running the software you want on your own computer.

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                • timwardcam@c.imT timwardcam@c.im

                  @tedmielczarek @grote I'm thinking of a small company with a dozen or so developers who have one Android app that talks to their back end, for use by a few dozen installation crews. Anything with "enterprise" in its name would be *vastly* too expensive to be of any use to a company like that.

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                  #314

                  @TimWardCam @tedmielczarek @grote I think it opens opportunity for linux phones. Purism, Jolla, Volla, postmarketOS... Apps work both on desktop and phones, saving costs all around.

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                  • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                    They even have a video up where they try to make this all sound nice and positive:

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                    #315

                    @grote he lost me first when calling it that made up term instead of installing. Then lost me again by holding a microphone in his fingers in a video.... I find this trend so distracting and silly lol.

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                    • benjistokman@mast.benstokman.meB benjistokman@mast.benstokman.me

                      @grote the fact that there's a reboot in the chain proves that even Google doesn't believe closing down android keeps users safe

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                      #316

                      @benjistokman how is "close down android" different from reboot (which is turn off and restart)?

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                      • oatrapado@mastodon.socialO oatrapado@mastodon.social

                        @Frenezul0_o @grote those chinese/european phones are just obsolete and overprized, pinephone another archeological piece at a high price.

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                        #317

                        @oatrapado @Frenezul0_o @grote 🫩

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                        • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                          Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                          * enable developer options
                          * confirm that you are not tricked
                          * restart phone and re-authenticate
                          * wait one day
                          * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                          * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                          * confirm that you accept the risks
                          * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                          https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                          #318

                          @grote taking the freedom slice by slice.

                          Somehow reminds me Xiaomi phone "e-waste" laying in the shelf, where I needed to wait 3 weeks, with SIM card in it, but it doesn't unlock anyway because "unknown reason". I'm sure it's intended to make me more safe!

                          For the first phase, one day wait is good start to get there.

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                          • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                            Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                            * enable developer options
                            * confirm that you are not tricked
                            * restart phone and re-authenticate
                            * wait one day
                            * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                            * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                            * confirm that you accept the risks
                            * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                            https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                            #319

                            @grote dark, dark patterns in the dark, dark smartphone

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