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Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

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  • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

    Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

    * enable developer options
    * confirm that you are not tricked
    * restart phone and re-authenticate
    * wait one day
    * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
    * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
    * confirm that you accept the risks
    * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

    https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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    #52

    @grote also: developers that have to be verified by Google anyway!

    (The original post is just client side, but Devs also face extra hurdles!)

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    • agowa338@chaos.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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      #53

      @Li @grote

      funnily at the moment it isn't. There have been some leaks as in some instances they "forget" to wipe it after use.

      Edit: But yea, they'd probably get it signed through governmental pressure in the end either way...

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      • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

        Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

        * enable developer options
        * confirm that you are not tricked
        * restart phone and re-authenticate
        * wait one day
        * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
        * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
        * confirm that you accept the risks
        * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

        https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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        #54

        @grote Eyep. This is why I'm not going to be carrying an Android anymore.
        If I wanted to be treated like a fucking idiot, I'd call my mother.

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        • lumi@snug.moeL lumi@snug.moe

          @grote what the fuck. none of this is at all acceptable

          let people install whatever apps they want, without any fearmongering

          it's supposed to be their device
          ​​

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          #55

          @lumi@snug.moe @grote@chaos.social Also, what if someone is guiding them, like say… a family member that is more familiar with technology?

          It’s deliberately misleading.

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          • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

            Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

            * enable developer options
            * confirm that you are not tricked
            * restart phone and re-authenticate
            * wait one day
            * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
            * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
            * confirm that you accept the risks
            * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

            https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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            #56

            @grote confirm with biometrics or your device pin

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            • lispi314@udongein.xyzL lispi314@udongein.xyz

              @lumi@snug.moe @grote@chaos.social Also, what if someone is guiding them, like say… a family member that is more familiar with technology?

              It’s deliberately misleading.

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              #57
              @lumi @grote wtf 24 hours lag.
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              • agowa338@chaos.socialA agowa338@chaos.social

                @Li @grote

                funnily at the moment it isn't. There have been some leaks as in some instances they "forget" to wipe it after use.

                Edit: But yea, they'd probably get it signed through governmental pressure in the end either way...

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                #58

                @agowa338 @grote it only isnt becuase they dont need it to be 'verified' at the moment, but google will just verify the 'approved malware' like they always have; this shit is meant to "keep you safe" in the same way border agents "keep you safe"

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                • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                  Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                  * enable developer options
                  * confirm that you are not tricked
                  * restart phone and re-authenticate
                  * wait one day
                  * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                  * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                  * confirm that you accept the risks
                  * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                  https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                  #59

                  @grote how good that more than year ago i installed ubuntu on my phone. lol.

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                  • kepi@mamutovo.czK kepi@mamutovo.cz

                    @grote I suppose you forgot, that you have to do this only during full moon?

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                    #60

                    @kepi @grote and you must pray mars 3.000 time during those 24 hours without sleep.

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                    • li@tech.lgbtL li@tech.lgbt

                      @agowa338 @grote it only isnt becuase they dont need it to be 'verified' at the moment, but google will just verify the 'approved malware' like they always have; this shit is meant to "keep you safe" in the same way border agents "keep you safe"

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                      #61

                      @Li @grote

                      You replied to fast. See edit in former post. You're right with that.

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                      • lispi314@udongein.xyzL lispi314@udongein.xyz

                        @lumi@snug.moe @grote@chaos.social Also, what if someone is guiding them, like say… a family member that is more familiar with technology?

                        It’s deliberately misleading.

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                        #62

                        @lispi314 @grote the most messed up thing is the attitude they have on this. that this big corporation can tell you what to do with your own device

                        it's supposed to be yours. what the actual fuck

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                        • faduda@mastodon.ieF faduda@mastodon.ie

                          @grote confirm with biometrics...?

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                          #63

                          @faduda @grote
                          Yes, that's what i came to say, that i will not trust Ggl with biometrics.

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                          • fifisch@social.vivaldi.netF fifisch@social.vivaldi.net

                            @nazokiyoubinbou @grote However scary the whole new Google process is for the non-expert user, installing a new OS on your daily driver phone is a hundred times scarier.

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                            #64

                            @FifiSch @nazokiyoubinbou @grote graphene might have a chance with their partnership with motorola, run from start, and people won't even know about thim simply no google by default in it.

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                              #65

                              @argv_minus_one @grote

                              IMHO...for now. The PIN will suffice...for now.

                              I sincerely believe this is just one step G😈😈gle is taking towards a more "our way or the highway" goal.

                              Remember, boiling frogs.

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                              • tezoatlipoca@mas.toT tezoatlipoca@mas.to

                                @grote

                                If we DO go through all this bullshit to sideload or get F-droid installed... so now our phone is in developer mode. Are there going to be any authorized Google store apps that detect developer mode and go "nuh-uh"? And if that's the case, and I disable developer mode (presumeably borking our F-droid/sideload apps?), will I have to wait 24 hrs to RE-enable dev mode?

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                                #66

                                @tezoatlipoca @grote at that point i'm already surpsised they did not make sideloading a paid feature ...

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                                • lumi@snug.moeL lumi@snug.moe

                                  @lispi314 @grote the most messed up thing is the attitude they have on this. that this big corporation can tell you what to do with your own device

                                  it's supposed to be yours. what the actual fuck

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                                  #67

                                  You will own nothing…

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                                  • agowa338@chaos.socialA agowa338@chaos.social

                                    @Li @grote

                                    You replied to fast. See edit in former post. You're right with that.

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                                    #68

                                    @agowa338 @grote its the same shit we see with "parental controls" or corporate "device management" software which also are functionally indistinguishable from malware ..

                                    anyway ... sorry

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                                    • lkundrak@metalhead.clubL lkundrak@metalhead.club

                                      @grote one year later we've updated our policies

                                      * wait extra day
                                      * enable accelerometer
                                      * wank the phone for 10 minutes
                                      * wait another day

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                                      #69

                                      @lkundrak @grote and 2 year later you need to pay a small fee of 5$ to unlock the 24 hours wait, if you don't clic on the second step after 5 minutes you need to repay and rewait 24h

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                                      • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                                        Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                                        * enable developer options
                                        * confirm that you are not tricked
                                        * restart phone and re-authenticate
                                        * wait one day
                                        * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                                        * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                                        * confirm that you accept the risks
                                        * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                                        https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                                        #70

                                        @grote Feels like the first step in the #enshittificaton of #android , harshly said...

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                                        • nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.socialN nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.social

                                          @FifiSch @grote I don't really understand that. The instructions are so simple and detailed and the "new OS" is basically exactly the same thing right down to having the same basic startup configuration and etc. The only difference is the Google connections are optional and one can decide for themselves how far they want to go.

                                          It's pretty much just tapping a few things, then copying and pasting two lines or so. Once it's booted you wouldn't tell it apart from stock other than its cleanliness. It's easier than installing Linux on a PC and that's actually a lot easier and less scary than people have been convinced.

                                          I bet if people didn't let Google, Apple, and etc convince them that they are so scared of installing third party options we never would have reached this point.

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                                          #71

                                          @nazokiyoubinbou @FifiSch @grote https://xkcd.com/2501/

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