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The argument for AI that I hate the most is the shoulder shrug that comes with, "AI is coming whether we like it or not."

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    #1

    The argument for AI that I hate the most is the shoulder shrug that comes with, "AI is coming whether we like it or not."

    I want to know why you are such a weak fucking bitch that you gladly give up your ability to decide your own future for yourself? I want to know why you cower when the rich demand that they be allowed to suck the fucking life out of you, and have no motivation to fight back? Do you love them? Do you hate yourself?

    Stop being a weak nihilist. It's not sexy.

    markus@toot.orchid-cottage.ukM tk@f.kawa-kun.comT cstamp@mastodon.socialC deadtom@dice.campD jamoquanty@mastodon.socialJ 14 Replies Last reply
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    • smutmag@mstdn.socialS smutmag@mstdn.social

      The argument for AI that I hate the most is the shoulder shrug that comes with, "AI is coming whether we like it or not."

      I want to know why you are such a weak fucking bitch that you gladly give up your ability to decide your own future for yourself? I want to know why you cower when the rich demand that they be allowed to suck the fucking life out of you, and have no motivation to fight back? Do you love them? Do you hate yourself?

      Stop being a weak nihilist. It's not sexy.

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      @smutmag 👏
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      • smutmag@mstdn.socialS smutmag@mstdn.social

        The argument for AI that I hate the most is the shoulder shrug that comes with, "AI is coming whether we like it or not."

        I want to know why you are such a weak fucking bitch that you gladly give up your ability to decide your own future for yourself? I want to know why you cower when the rich demand that they be allowed to suck the fucking life out of you, and have no motivation to fight back? Do you love them? Do you hate yourself?

        Stop being a weak nihilist. It's not sexy.

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        #3
        @smutmag Anyone saying "X is the future" is just trying to sell more X. 😕
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        • smutmag@mstdn.socialS smutmag@mstdn.social

          The argument for AI that I hate the most is the shoulder shrug that comes with, "AI is coming whether we like it or not."

          I want to know why you are such a weak fucking bitch that you gladly give up your ability to decide your own future for yourself? I want to know why you cower when the rich demand that they be allowed to suck the fucking life out of you, and have no motivation to fight back? Do you love them? Do you hate yourself?

          Stop being a weak nihilist. It's not sexy.

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          #4

          @smutmag I am so tired of that. If I wanted to dumb down, I’d just watch Fox or something.

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          • smutmag@mstdn.socialS smutmag@mstdn.social

            The argument for AI that I hate the most is the shoulder shrug that comes with, "AI is coming whether we like it or not."

            I want to know why you are such a weak fucking bitch that you gladly give up your ability to decide your own future for yourself? I want to know why you cower when the rich demand that they be allowed to suck the fucking life out of you, and have no motivation to fight back? Do you love them? Do you hate yourself?

            Stop being a weak nihilist. It's not sexy.

            deadtom@dice.campD This user is from outside of this forum
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            @smutmag Another massive issue with that attitude is that AI as it's currently being used isn't even sustainable. It's mostly funded with corporate non-money that just keeps trading hands, and they're all losing money on it, and piling more in to try to get it to make money... It can't keep going. It's going to pop sooner or later, probably sooner.

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            • smutmag@mstdn.socialS smutmag@mstdn.social

              The argument for AI that I hate the most is the shoulder shrug that comes with, "AI is coming whether we like it or not."

              I want to know why you are such a weak fucking bitch that you gladly give up your ability to decide your own future for yourself? I want to know why you cower when the rich demand that they be allowed to suck the fucking life out of you, and have no motivation to fight back? Do you love them? Do you hate yourself?

              Stop being a weak nihilist. It's not sexy.

              jamoquanty@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @smutmag it's not 'coming' it's here.

              Modern medicine, vaccines, banking systems, fraud detection, telecoms systems and all that jazz that most peeps are clinging to for dear life.

              Not wanting clippy on steroids on your desktop doesn't matter.

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              • jamoquanty@mastodon.socialJ jamoquanty@mastodon.social

                @smutmag it's not 'coming' it's here.

                Modern medicine, vaccines, banking systems, fraud detection, telecoms systems and all that jazz that most peeps are clinging to for dear life.

                Not wanting clippy on steroids on your desktop doesn't matter.

                smutmag@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @jamoquanty The tech companies are the illness, and the people you should hide your money from, and the fraudsters, and the destroyers of communication and all that jazz that most peeps blame each other for when they should be tearing down the tech industry. They ruin your world so they can sell you a bad solution. They can solve nothing, and their infiltration into every aspect of our lives does not make them inevitable: They can be taken down, & humanity can solve its own problems.

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                • smutmag@mstdn.socialS smutmag@mstdn.social

                  @jamoquanty The tech companies are the illness, and the people you should hide your money from, and the fraudsters, and the destroyers of communication and all that jazz that most peeps blame each other for when they should be tearing down the tech industry. They ruin your world so they can sell you a bad solution. They can solve nothing, and their infiltration into every aspect of our lives does not make them inevitable: They can be taken down, & humanity can solve its own problems.

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                  #8

                  @smutmag that seems to be people you are not happy with, not tech.

                  Big steel, big bronze, big scribes, big printing press, big computer etc...it's not the tech that's the issue, just when novel stuff pops up it will be leveraged by both good guys and wankers.

                  I rather like it, I'd be a long dead weak little bitch if it wasn't for magic tablets and vaccines derived from this stuff over the past decade or two that keeps me alive.

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                  • smutmag@mstdn.socialS smutmag@mstdn.social

                    The argument for AI that I hate the most is the shoulder shrug that comes with, "AI is coming whether we like it or not."

                    I want to know why you are such a weak fucking bitch that you gladly give up your ability to decide your own future for yourself? I want to know why you cower when the rich demand that they be allowed to suck the fucking life out of you, and have no motivation to fight back? Do you love them? Do you hate yourself?

                    Stop being a weak nihilist. It's not sexy.

                    zeborah@mastodon.nzZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @smutmag It's such a weird argument. Climate change is also coming whether we like it or not (all the quicker due to AI...) but that doesn't mean we have to embrace it!

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                    • smutmag@mstdn.socialS smutmag@mstdn.social

                      The argument for AI that I hate the most is the shoulder shrug that comes with, "AI is coming whether we like it or not."

                      I want to know why you are such a weak fucking bitch that you gladly give up your ability to decide your own future for yourself? I want to know why you cower when the rich demand that they be allowed to suck the fucking life out of you, and have no motivation to fight back? Do you love them? Do you hate yourself?

                      Stop being a weak nihilist. It's not sexy.

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                      #10

                      @smutmag No clue who you are feditraveler, but that deserves a follow. Love it when people passionately spread truth.

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                      • smutmag@mstdn.socialS smutmag@mstdn.social

                        The argument for AI that I hate the most is the shoulder shrug that comes with, "AI is coming whether we like it or not."

                        I want to know why you are such a weak fucking bitch that you gladly give up your ability to decide your own future for yourself? I want to know why you cower when the rich demand that they be allowed to suck the fucking life out of you, and have no motivation to fight back? Do you love them? Do you hate yourself?

                        Stop being a weak nihilist. It's not sexy.

                        matthewtoadagain@climatejustice.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        @smutmag AI is mostly losing money (unless you're nvidia). Whether we like it or not. 😀

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                        • zeborah@mastodon.nzZ zeborah@mastodon.nz

                          @smutmag It's such a weird argument. Climate change is also coming whether we like it or not (all the quicker due to AI...) but that doesn't mean we have to embrace it!

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                          @zeborah @smutmag It also is a bad argument from a historical standpoint; "A.I. is coming for us whether we like it or not" sounds a bit like telling non-German WW2 Europeans "Germany is coming for you whether you like it or not.".

                          ...Incidentally, WW2 Germany was pushed back because the British took the position of "That doesn't mean we should be speaking German.". Also, the French, and the Russians.

                          The countries that said "Might as well join up with Germany if they're coming for us whether we like it or not"...did not come out of WW2 looking good.

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                          • jamoquanty@mastodon.socialJ jamoquanty@mastodon.social

                            @smutmag it's not 'coming' it's here.

                            Modern medicine, vaccines, banking systems, fraud detection, telecoms systems and all that jazz that most peeps are clinging to for dear life.

                            Not wanting clippy on steroids on your desktop doesn't matter.

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                            @jamoquanty @smutmag

                            The business model is unsustainable. The companies that sell "AI" are losing money hand over fist. Running the requisite future data centers takes more power than we can generate.

                            I'm not sure what the crash will look like, but it is physically impossible for it to continue at current levels.

                            Only creative (and very likely illegal if we had a functioning government) accounting has kept it from crashing at this point.

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                              @jamoquanty @smutmag

                              The business model is unsustainable. The companies that sell "AI" are losing money hand over fist. Running the requisite future data centers takes more power than we can generate.

                              I'm not sure what the crash will look like, but it is physically impossible for it to continue at current levels.

                              Only creative (and very likely illegal if we had a functioning government) accounting has kept it from crashing at this point.

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                              #14

                              @jrdepriest @smutmag it's not a 'business model' it's tech we've had for decades.

                              Governments and armies are leveraging this stuff at scale and have been for long time, it's not going away any more than bronze, writing, steel, money or computers are.

                              Thinking those trying to control and monitize this stuff are wankers seems basic, they are.

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                              • smutmag@mstdn.socialS smutmag@mstdn.social

                                The argument for AI that I hate the most is the shoulder shrug that comes with, "AI is coming whether we like it or not."

                                I want to know why you are such a weak fucking bitch that you gladly give up your ability to decide your own future for yourself? I want to know why you cower when the rich demand that they be allowed to suck the fucking life out of you, and have no motivation to fight back? Do you love them? Do you hate yourself?

                                Stop being a weak nihilist. It's not sexy.

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                                #15

                                @smutmag In my experience the people who say that are almost entirely concern trolls. They don't say it as practical advice for dealing with something bad. They say it because they WANT it to be true. They want us to lose and they want the boot they're kissing to win and they're too cowardly to say that or they think they're being badass manipulators by disguising it but they're really just losers.

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                                • smutmag@mstdn.socialS smutmag@mstdn.social

                                  The argument for AI that I hate the most is the shoulder shrug that comes with, "AI is coming whether we like it or not."

                                  I want to know why you are such a weak fucking bitch that you gladly give up your ability to decide your own future for yourself? I want to know why you cower when the rich demand that they be allowed to suck the fucking life out of you, and have no motivation to fight back? Do you love them? Do you hate yourself?

                                  Stop being a weak nihilist. It's not sexy.

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                                  @smutmag not to any machine I own, it's fucking not.
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                                  • jamoquanty@mastodon.socialJ jamoquanty@mastodon.social

                                    @jrdepriest @smutmag it's not a 'business model' it's tech we've had for decades.

                                    Governments and armies are leveraging this stuff at scale and have been for long time, it's not going away any more than bronze, writing, steel, money or computers are.

                                    Thinking those trying to control and monitize this stuff are wankers seems basic, they are.

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                                    @jamoquanty @smutmag

                                    We have not had generative "AI" for decades.

                                    We've had machine learning and expert systems and neural networks. You can run those on powerful, but still obtainable, computers.

                                    GenAI relies on extremely expensive and distributed external compute that only sprawling datacenters can provide and the only way even a government could afford it long-term would be to own it or completely conscript it and pay for it with our taxes while actively taking money away from other projects. You could bankrupt a country trying to feed the beast.

                                    It is not sustainable.

                                    The worst case outcome would be to make it illegal for anybody but the government to use so there is no longer competition for the necessary compute, nationalizing all the companies and technology, then classifying all research. I wouldn't be surprised if the United States tried that but I'm not sure the oligarchs would let that happen.

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                                    • smutmag@mstdn.socialS smutmag@mstdn.social

                                      The argument for AI that I hate the most is the shoulder shrug that comes with, "AI is coming whether we like it or not."

                                      I want to know why you are such a weak fucking bitch that you gladly give up your ability to decide your own future for yourself? I want to know why you cower when the rich demand that they be allowed to suck the fucking life out of you, and have no motivation to fight back? Do you love them? Do you hate yourself?

                                      Stop being a weak nihilist. It's not sexy.

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                                      @smutmag yes!

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                                      • smutmag@mstdn.socialS smutmag@mstdn.social

                                        The argument for AI that I hate the most is the shoulder shrug that comes with, "AI is coming whether we like it or not."

                                        I want to know why you are such a weak fucking bitch that you gladly give up your ability to decide your own future for yourself? I want to know why you cower when the rich demand that they be allowed to suck the fucking life out of you, and have no motivation to fight back? Do you love them? Do you hate yourself?

                                        Stop being a weak nihilist. It's not sexy.

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                                        @smutmag something something God's Will yadda yadda

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                                        • jamoquanty@mastodon.socialJ jamoquanty@mastodon.social

                                          @jrdepriest @smutmag it's not a 'business model' it's tech we've had for decades.

                                          Governments and armies are leveraging this stuff at scale and have been for long time, it's not going away any more than bronze, writing, steel, money or computers are.

                                          Thinking those trying to control and monitize this stuff are wankers seems basic, they are.

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                                          @jamoquanty @jrdepriest @smutmag You appear to be conflating machine learning with generative AI. They are adjacent but not the same thing. One of them has uses to help people, the other just takes resources, doesn't produce anything viable and turns people into mental babies.

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