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Let's say that age assurance / verification / whatever comes in for computers.

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  • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
    neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    Let's say that age assurance / verification / whatever comes in for computers.

    Not just in one state in the USA, but more broadly.

    And let's say that the UEFI/BIOS gets locked down, to inhibit circumvention by Linux-using weirdos.

    My pile of old ThinkPads looks rather attractive now, doesn't it?!

    neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN arutaz@social.n2.mikronod.seA pmdj@mstdn.socialP gumnos@mastodon.bsd.cafeG lanodan@queer.hacktivis.meL 9 Replies Last reply
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    • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

      Let's say that age assurance / verification / whatever comes in for computers.

      Not just in one state in the USA, but more broadly.

      And let's say that the UEFI/BIOS gets locked down, to inhibit circumvention by Linux-using weirdos.

      My pile of old ThinkPads looks rather attractive now, doesn't it?!

      neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
      neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
      neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk
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      #2

      I don't want an appliance.

      I want a computer.

      A machine this is mine to own and pwn.

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      • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

        Let's say that age assurance / verification / whatever comes in for computers.

        Not just in one state in the USA, but more broadly.

        And let's say that the UEFI/BIOS gets locked down, to inhibit circumvention by Linux-using weirdos.

        My pile of old ThinkPads looks rather attractive now, doesn't it?!

        arutaz@social.n2.mikronod.seA This user is from outside of this forum
        arutaz@social.n2.mikronod.seA This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3
        @neil
        According to this post the law seems misunderstood:
        https://infosec.exchange/@david_chisnall/116160637051672728
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        • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

          Let's say that age assurance / verification / whatever comes in for computers.

          Not just in one state in the USA, but more broadly.

          And let's say that the UEFI/BIOS gets locked down, to inhibit circumvention by Linux-using weirdos.

          My pile of old ThinkPads looks rather attractive now, doesn't it?!

          pmdj@mstdn.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @neil Between those restrictions and spiralling cost of new hardware, I’m genuinely thinking I’ll be best off investing in more solar panels and batteries to cover the higher power consumption of old high-end hardware if I need to expand my pool of devices.
          (Our shed roof leaks, so we’re planning on re-roofing it this Spring; seems a good opportunity for whacking a bunch of panels on there at the same time.)

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          • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

            Let's say that age assurance / verification / whatever comes in for computers.

            Not just in one state in the USA, but more broadly.

            And let's say that the UEFI/BIOS gets locked down, to inhibit circumvention by Linux-using weirdos.

            My pile of old ThinkPads looks rather attractive now, doesn't it?!

            gumnos@mastodon.bsd.cafeG This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @neil

            Dear wife-of-gumnos who has lamented the small mountain of laptops on his desk…these are for the rebellion and one day they will be incredibly valuable.

            😆

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            • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

              Let's say that age assurance / verification / whatever comes in for computers.

              Not just in one state in the USA, but more broadly.

              And let's say that the UEFI/BIOS gets locked down, to inhibit circumvention by Linux-using weirdos.

              My pile of old ThinkPads looks rather attractive now, doesn't it?!

              lanodan@queer.hacktivis.meL This user is from outside of this forum
              lanodan@queer.hacktivis.meL This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6
              @neil Annoying part about this is liberticide laws seem like they have more longevity than computer hardware.
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              • arutaz@social.n2.mikronod.seA arutaz@social.n2.mikronod.se
                @neil
                According to this post the law seems misunderstood:
                https://infosec.exchange/@david_chisnall/116160637051672728
                neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
                neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @arutaz The slope is a slippery one.

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                • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                  Let's say that age assurance / verification / whatever comes in for computers.

                  Not just in one state in the USA, but more broadly.

                  And let's say that the UEFI/BIOS gets locked down, to inhibit circumvention by Linux-using weirdos.

                  My pile of old ThinkPads looks rather attractive now, doesn't it?!

                  simonzerafa@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @neil

                  As long as you don't update the UEFI firmware on anything out today, which attempts to install such stupidity, then you should be fine!

                  Older model ThinkPads are nice. Even the modern Lenovo models are quite nice 🙂

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                  • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                    @arutaz The slope is a slippery one.

                    arutaz@social.n2.mikronod.seA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9
                    @neil thats true
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                    • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                      Let's say that age assurance / verification / whatever comes in for computers.

                      Not just in one state in the USA, but more broadly.

                      And let's say that the UEFI/BIOS gets locked down, to inhibit circumvention by Linux-using weirdos.

                      My pile of old ThinkPads looks rather attractive now, doesn't it?!

                      ekari@mementomori.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      @neil You just described my computers — a pile of old ThinkPads 👌

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                      • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                        I don't want an appliance.

                        I want a computer.

                        A machine this is mine to own and pwn.

                        mal3aby@mastodon.smears.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
                        mal3aby@mastodon.smears.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        @neil Yes!

                        Except when it comes to fridges.

                        Then I *do* want an appliance!

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                        • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                          Let's say that age assurance / verification / whatever comes in for computers.

                          Not just in one state in the USA, but more broadly.

                          And let's say that the UEFI/BIOS gets locked down, to inhibit circumvention by Linux-using weirdos.

                          My pile of old ThinkPads looks rather attractive now, doesn't it?!

                          lacey@mastodon.gamedev.placeL This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #12

                          @neil That's the thing right... there's not much old machines can't do if you don't run bloated software on them.

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                          • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                            Let's say that age assurance / verification / whatever comes in for computers.

                            Not just in one state in the USA, but more broadly.

                            And let's say that the UEFI/BIOS gets locked down, to inhibit circumvention by Linux-using weirdos.

                            My pile of old ThinkPads looks rather attractive now, doesn't it?!

                            _hic_haec_hoc@fosstodon.org_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #13

                            @neil a character in the late Vernor Vinge's Rainbows End lugs around for all the book an old laptop because he refuses to use the locked, hyper-controlled, DRM-ed-to-the-gills modern wearable hardware everybody else is using. At the time (2006) I was like "no way, it will never come to that," but I'm starting to have doubts now...

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                              #14

                              @Tubsta @neil

                              Though to be fair, most of this hardware is "vintage" to be generous…the RAM is likely something ancient, and possessing drives that would make most folks cry. 😆

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