Uber driver had a reason for being vegetarian I hadn't heard before: "if you add up all the hamburgers people eat, there aren't enough cows for that, so meat must be fake"
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@nazokiyoubinbou
@Linza
Yeah I could see horrible things going wrong in a meat vat facility, but I just assume the default mode of agriculture is "unsafe except for strict enforcement of regulations" since it is sort of the main thing that caused there to be industrial regulations in this country at least -
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@Linza
Yeah I could see horrible things going wrong in a meat vat facility, but I just assume the default mode of agriculture is "unsafe except for strict enforcement of regulations" since it is sort of the main thing that caused there to be industrial regulations in this country at least@jonny @Linza Seriously, all the times I've heard of e. coli outbreaks and etc because of the fertilizer used... Yep. "Safer" and "100% safe" are definitely not the same thing here.
Also, wasn't there some big outbreak of "mad cow disease" a good while back?
So yeah, all I claim here is that vat-grown meats are safer because at least they are mostly going to be given plain nutrients and not, you know, that stuff.
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@jonny @Linza Seriously, all the times I've heard of e. coli outbreaks and etc because of the fertilizer used... Yep. "Safer" and "100% safe" are definitely not the same thing here.
Also, wasn't there some big outbreak of "mad cow disease" a good while back?
So yeah, all I claim here is that vat-grown meats are safer because at least they are mostly going to be given plain nutrients and not, you know, that stuff.
@nazokiyoubinbou @jonny mmmm microbe soup
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@jonny Two things:
1. Your driver greatly underestimates how many cows there are.
2. Most fast food burgers aren't 100% beef. I forget what the limit is, but the USDA permits up to a certain percentage of TVP added to beef before it has to be labelled differently. 20%? If I remember correctly, above 20%, it starts to no longer taste or feel like real meat.@jonny As of 2026-01-01, the USDA reported 86.2 million head of cattle in the US, of which 27.6 million were beef cattle, specifically.
This is a historically low number.
https://www.npr.org/2026/05/29/nx-s1-5719511/beef-cattle-herd-food-prices
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@jonny As of 2026-01-01, the USDA reported 86.2 million head of cattle in the US, of which 27.6 million were beef cattle, specifically.
This is a historically low number.
https://www.npr.org/2026/05/29/nx-s1-5719511/beef-cattle-herd-food-prices
@gcvsa
There are so many goddamn cows -
@nazokiyoubinbou @jonny mmmm microbe soup
@Linza
@nazokiyoubinbou
There is some incredible broth potential in bioengineered scobylike organoids designed exclusively to be broth tissue -
@Linza
@nazokiyoubinbou
There is some incredible broth potential in bioengineered scobylike organoids designed exclusively to be broth tissue@jonny @nazokiyoubinbou yeah but you gotta be even more on top of hygiene because you can't run it through UV-C on the way out, it's got particulates.
Solar Foods is doing some cool shit. https://solarfoods.com/
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Uber driver had a reason for being vegetarian I hadn't heard before: "if you add up all the hamburgers people eat, there aren't enough cows for that, so meat must be fake"
@jonny if it’s fake then every burger eater is already a vegetarian.
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Uber driver had a reason for being vegetarian I hadn't heard before: "if you add up all the hamburgers people eat, there aren't enough cows for that, so meat must be fake"
@jonny back when I was young, in my country, there was a widespread idea that McDonalds an Burguer King hamburguers were secretly made with rat meat
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@jonny It takes all kinds to make the world and human society the glorious mess that it is.
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Uber driver had a reason for being vegetarian I hadn't heard before: "if you add up all the hamburgers people eat, there aren't enough cows for that, so meat must be fake"
@jonny that is, as of sometime in the last 20 years, absolutely by far the best line of reasoning to put forth to get the average person to stop eating meat. i may start using it
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@BoysenberryCider @jonny Although there is the explosive lettuce disease that's been in the news lately.
@roadskater @BoysenberryCider @jonny And that’d be because the animals got there first.
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Uber driver had a reason for being vegetarian I hadn't heard before: "if you add up all the hamburgers people eat, there aren't enough cows for that, so meat must be fake"
@jonny but a real death burger is so much worse than a fake.
