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As a long time Linux user; do you know how bad you have to fuck up your operating system to make people WANT to use Linux?

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  • rgegriff@masto.hackers.townR rgegriff@masto.hackers.town

    As a long time Linux user; do you know how bad you have to fuck up your operating system to make people WANT to use Linux?

    Regular people in my life keep asking me for advice and... I mean, cool. But, like, what the fuck is Microsoft doing over there?

    thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT This user is from outside of this forum
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    thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io
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    #2

    @rgegriff @mao I thought you were talking about Apple

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    • rgegriff@masto.hackers.townR rgegriff@masto.hackers.town

      As a long time Linux user; do you know how bad you have to fuck up your operating system to make people WANT to use Linux?

      Regular people in my life keep asking me for advice and... I mean, cool. But, like, what the fuck is Microsoft doing over there?

      sungo@social.sungo.spaceS This user is from outside of this forum
      sungo@social.sungo.spaceS This user is from outside of this forum
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      #3

      @rgegriff If corporations were actually people, I'd have called for a mental health check on microsoft a long time ago. Something is not right up in that brain pan and they need some new meds or to break up with that abusive lover or something. Shit ain't right.

      fabiosantoscode@mastodon.socialF offbeatmammal@mastodon.socialO 2 Replies Last reply
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      • rgegriff@masto.hackers.townR rgegriff@masto.hackers.town

        As a long time Linux user; do you know how bad you have to fuck up your operating system to make people WANT to use Linux?

        Regular people in my life keep asking me for advice and... I mean, cool. But, like, what the fuck is Microsoft doing over there?

        S This user is from outside of this forum
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        softwaretheron@mas.to
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        #4

        @rgegriff
        Yup. I'm old; the VMS text UI blows Unix and its variants and emulators into a cocked hat. The Linux text UI is horrible.

        What am I using? Guess.

        clew@ecoevo.socialC 1 Reply Last reply
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        • rgegriff@masto.hackers.townR rgegriff@masto.hackers.town

          As a long time Linux user; do you know how bad you have to fuck up your operating system to make people WANT to use Linux?

          Regular people in my life keep asking me for advice and... I mean, cool. But, like, what the fuck is Microsoft doing over there?

          t045t@scl.zmb.cmT This user is from outside of this forum
          t045t@scl.zmb.cmT This user is from outside of this forum
          t045t@scl.zmb.cm
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          #5

          @rgegriff they literally rolled out multiple auto-updates that bricked Windows 11 PCs in the past month alone.

          it's bad.

          thecrawford@mastodonapp.ukT 1 Reply Last reply
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          • S softwaretheron@mas.to

            @rgegriff
            Yup. I'm old; the VMS text UI blows Unix and its variants and emulators into a cocked hat. The Linux text UI is horrible.

            What am I using? Guess.

            clew@ecoevo.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
            clew@ecoevo.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
            clew@ecoevo.social
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            #6

            Don’t know enough to guess but I’m curious. What?

            (BeOS. An unsecured login to a FORTRAN server somewhere in Mountain Time. Your Lenovo refrigerator, overclocked. ??)

            @SoftwareTheron
            @rgegriff

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            • rgegriff@masto.hackers.townR rgegriff@masto.hackers.town

              As a long time Linux user; do you know how bad you have to fuck up your operating system to make people WANT to use Linux?

              Regular people in my life keep asking me for advice and... I mean, cool. But, like, what the fuck is Microsoft doing over there?

              millihertz@oldbytes.spaceM This user is from outside of this forum
              millihertz@oldbytes.spaceM This user is from outside of this forum
              millihertz@oldbytes.space
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              #7

              @rgegriff i dunno, but they might need these: 🫲 🫱 🗺️ 🔦

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              • rgegriff@masto.hackers.townR rgegriff@masto.hackers.town

                As a long time Linux user; do you know how bad you have to fuck up your operating system to make people WANT to use Linux?

                Regular people in my life keep asking me for advice and... I mean, cool. But, like, what the fuck is Microsoft doing over there?

                contaminase@wandering.shopC This user is from outside of this forum
                contaminase@wandering.shopC This user is from outside of this forum
                contaminase@wandering.shop
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                #8

                @rgegriff
                >what the fuck is Microsoft doing over there?
                Rich text in Notepad.

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                • rgegriff@masto.hackers.townR rgegriff@masto.hackers.town

                  As a long time Linux user; do you know how bad you have to fuck up your operating system to make people WANT to use Linux?

                  Regular people in my life keep asking me for advice and... I mean, cool. But, like, what the fuck is Microsoft doing over there?

                  apbblue@thepit.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
                  apbblue@thepit.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
                  apbblue@thepit.social
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #9

                  @rgegriff Force-feeding AI is my biggest complaint.

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                  • t045t@scl.zmb.cmT t045t@scl.zmb.cm

                    @rgegriff they literally rolled out multiple auto-updates that bricked Windows 11 PCs in the past month alone.

                    it's bad.

                    thecrawford@mastodonapp.ukT This user is from outside of this forum
                    thecrawford@mastodonapp.ukT This user is from outside of this forum
                    thecrawford@mastodonapp.uk
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                    #10

                    @T045T @rgegriff are they vibe coding updates?

                    liquor_american@universeodon.comL t045t@scl.zmb.cmT kevinrns@mstdn.socialK tattooed_mummy@beige.partyT 4 Replies Last reply
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                    • rgegriff@masto.hackers.townR rgegriff@masto.hackers.town

                      As a long time Linux user; do you know how bad you have to fuck up your operating system to make people WANT to use Linux?

                      Regular people in my life keep asking me for advice and... I mean, cool. But, like, what the fuck is Microsoft doing over there?

                      therealpomax@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                      therealpomax@mastodon.social
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                      #11

                      @rgegriff they took an OS, and turned it into "now what if you had no control over what it does, and also it just does whatever it wants, not what it *should* do".

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                      • rgegriff@masto.hackers.townR rgegriff@masto.hackers.town

                        As a long time Linux user; do you know how bad you have to fuck up your operating system to make people WANT to use Linux?

                        Regular people in my life keep asking me for advice and... I mean, cool. But, like, what the fuck is Microsoft doing over there?

                        zerodime@equestria.socialZ This user is from outside of this forum
                        zerodime@equestria.socialZ This user is from outside of this forum
                        zerodime@equestria.social
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                        #12

                        @rgegriff Easy, M$ tries to think for their customers, instead of with them. Also money! PRoblem is, it's still working, as companies don't want to switch and they are the ones M$ really makes money with.

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                        • thecrawford@mastodonapp.ukT thecrawford@mastodonapp.uk

                          @T045T @rgegriff are they vibe coding updates?

                          liquor_american@universeodon.comL This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #13

                          @thecrawford @T045T @rgegriff YES AND DON'T CALL IT SLOP
                          #MicroSlop

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                          • thecrawford@mastodonapp.ukT thecrawford@mastodonapp.uk

                            @T045T @rgegriff are they vibe coding updates?

                            t045t@scl.zmb.cmT This user is from outside of this forum
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                            t045t@scl.zmb.cm
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                            #14

                            @thecrawford @rgegriff eh. probably more down to shifting resources to copilot and firing people that were Windows experts (admittedly I don’t have any data to back that up, but it tracks with what all the tech companies have been doing)

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                            • rgegriff@masto.hackers.townR rgegriff@masto.hackers.town

                              As a long time Linux user; do you know how bad you have to fuck up your operating system to make people WANT to use Linux?

                              Regular people in my life keep asking me for advice and... I mean, cool. But, like, what the fuck is Microsoft doing over there?

                              jonathan@charade.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                              jonathan@charade.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                              jonathan@charade.social
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                              #15
                              @rgegriff Windows 11 is what three trillion dollars looks like 🤪
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                              • sungo@social.sungo.spaceS sungo@social.sungo.space

                                @rgegriff If corporations were actually people, I'd have called for a mental health check on microsoft a long time ago. Something is not right up in that brain pan and they need some new meds or to break up with that abusive lover or something. Shit ain't right.

                                fabiosantoscode@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                fabiosantoscode@mastodon.social
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                                #16

                                @sungo @rgegriff if corporations are people, why aren't hundreds of them in jail?

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                                • thecrawford@mastodonapp.ukT thecrawford@mastodonapp.uk

                                  @T045T @rgegriff are they vibe coding updates?

                                  kevinrns@mstdn.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  kevinrns@mstdn.social
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                                  #17

                                  @thecrawford @T045T @rgegriff

                                  The President of Microsoft says 30% of their code is AI -- and its taking down their OS.

                                  Vibe Coded Bankruptcy.

                                  https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/29/satya-nadella-says-as-much-as-30percent-of-microsoft-code-is-written-by-ai.html

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                                  • kevinrns@mstdn.socialK kevinrns@mstdn.social

                                    @thecrawford @T045T @rgegriff

                                    The President of Microsoft says 30% of their code is AI -- and its taking down their OS.

                                    Vibe Coded Bankruptcy.

                                    https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/29/satya-nadella-says-as-much-as-30percent-of-microsoft-code-is-written-by-ai.html

                                    thecrawford@mastodonapp.ukT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #18

                                    @kevinrns @T045T @rgegriff Ironically I guess I'm very naive to this, considering I couldn't update off windows 10 due to old hardware so migrated fully to Linux anyway last year.

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                                    • rgegriff@masto.hackers.townR rgegriff@masto.hackers.town

                                      As a long time Linux user; do you know how bad you have to fuck up your operating system to make people WANT to use Linux?

                                      Regular people in my life keep asking me for advice and... I mean, cool. But, like, what the fuck is Microsoft doing over there?

                                      moses_izumi@fe.disroot.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
                                      moses_izumi@fe.disroot.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
                                      moses_izumi@fe.disroot.org
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                                      #19
                                      @rgegriff The window managers (I've mainly used XFCE and KDE) have a lot of nifty features: stuff that could've been implemented during Windows 8 if it was designed by the Powertoys and Sysinternals people instead of a coked-up touchscreen salesman.

                                      The Metro environment worked kinda well on tablets, but I'm still shocked that Microsoft completely ignored the ramifications of forcing a half-baked parallel ecosystem of fullscreen-only applications onto every desktop, and replacing the startmenu with a fullscreen version.

                                      My dad still gets fired up when reminded of the Windows RT situation: MS ported the entire OS to energy efficient ARM systems only to ban them from running any desktop software beyond Office and the mediocre pack-in stuff (because they didn't allow desktop apps on the Windows Store).

                                      The Copilot push is arguably less agressive, in the sense that it seems to be sequestered to action buttons in applications, along with the telemetry/spyware/adware that's been active by default since 10.
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                                      • thecrawford@mastodonapp.ukT thecrawford@mastodonapp.uk

                                        @kevinrns @T045T @rgegriff Ironically I guess I'm very naive to this, considering I couldn't update off windows 10 due to old hardware so migrated fully to Linux anyway last year.

                                        aadeacon@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #20

                                        @thecrawford @kevinrns @T045T @rgegriff I migrated to Linux (linuxmint) when Windows 7 died, I looked at Win8 and said no way.I have not used Windows since then.(and I don’t miss it)

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                                        • fabiosantoscode@mastodon.socialF fabiosantoscode@mastodon.social

                                          @sungo @rgegriff if corporations are people, why aren't hundreds of them in jail?

                                          jbiserkov@mas.toJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #21

                                          @fabiosantoscode @sungo @rgegriff
                                          Because they use their money as “free speech“ to bribe politicians.
                                          if that sounds like the incoherent ramblings of a conspiracy theorist check out this Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC

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