We are out here acting like corporations with a profit motive are going to make any effort to protect the future of mankind.
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@GabeMoralesVR @jernej__s @selzero I'll take your word for it, but I don't think a test that would burn away any existing plastic along with other things is a good test to see if plastic is there since you're going to get a sludge out either way since it's not that selective. (The link you posted is backwards. It talks about getting rid of plastic and copper rather than getting rid of aluminum.)
There's a lot of talk that consuming aluminum isn't so great either, so I don't know where I stand
@nazokiyoubinbou @jernej__s @selzero ...wrong. JFC this is an easily verifiable experiment. How about you do goddamn research instead of telling me what your gut feels? JFC you're embarrassing.
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@selzero a paper bottle would plainly not work. at most it can be reinforcement.
@elexia @selzero The bottle could be bioplastic produced from cellulose from paper. I could definitely see marketing simplifying “bottle made of a paper-derived product” to “bottle made of paper”.
Like how clothing marketed as “bamboo fiber” is actually rayon/viscose produced from bamboo-derived cellulose.
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@elexia @selzero The bottle could be bioplastic produced from cellulose from paper. I could definitely see marketing simplifying “bottle made of a paper-derived product” to “bottle made of paper”.
Like how clothing marketed as “bamboo fiber” is actually rayon/viscose produced from bamboo-derived cellulose.
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We are out here acting like corporations with a profit motive are going to make any effort to protect the future of mankind.
No it wasn’t…?
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We are out here acting like corporations with a profit motive are going to make any effort to protect the future of mankind.
@selzero I wouldn’t be taking it seriously when it has Roman measurements on it
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@selzero a paper bottle would plainly not work. at most it can be reinforcement.
@elexia @selzero Long time ago in the past century we then kids used paper cups (real tight carton, zero plastic) to boil water and tea in them on the small bonfire. Cups were attached to some freshly found stick by two pieces of thread to allow us keep their bottoms precisely at the right flame. 40 such cups weighted less than hefty pot you would use otherwise for your two day mountain trip.
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@elexia @selzero Looks like the production process isn’t *great*, but nowhere near as bad as petro plastic. The most common bioplastic is PLA, which tends to be translucent like that liner.
Of course, mass balancing is common, as are semantic tricks like saying the cardboard is the bottle and the plastic is a liner. They certainly could be lying.
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We are out here acting like corporations with a profit motive are going to make any effort to protect the future of mankind.
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We are out here acting like corporations with a profit motive are going to make any effort to protect the future of mankind.
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@GabeMoralesVR @jernej__s @selzero There may be some aluminum cans with plastic, but most are still metal. I tend to crush all mine down and believe me, those are metal bits trying to cut me on all the cans I use...
I'm pretty sure any metal cans using plastic are actually the odd ones out rather than the norm.
Not that metal cans are a whole lot better... Aluminum doesn't degrade into the environment very fast either (and isn't so great when it does I'm sure.)
@nazokiyoubinbou @GabeMoralesVR @jernej__s @selzero I'm confused by this. Aluminum can't degrade, can it? It's an element.
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We are out here acting like corporations with a profit motive are going to make any effort to protect the future of mankind.
@selzero literally,
> "Hello I'm Paper Bottle"
> looks inside
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We are out here acting like corporations with a profit motive are going to make any effort to protect the future of mankind.
@selzero@syzito.xyz so like, you pour it out and it becomes paper or?
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We are out here acting like corporations with a profit motive are going to make any effort to protect the future of mankind.
@selzero every time I see this I realise…
We’re actually *totally* fucked.
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@selzero surely describing that as a paper bottle when it is actually plastic is straight up fraud?
@peterbrown @selzero no because "I'm paper bottle" is not legally the description of what it is
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